JD Vance Urged to Invoke 25th Amendment Against Trump

rhuarc29 · Mar 25, 2026

Butler1000 said:
Why would they. They all AGREE eith what he is doing.

I don't think this is actually true. Many of them were outspoken against Trump's positions years ago. I highly suspect they're mostly playing along with Trump right now in order to improve their own positions. I mean, Vance is positioning himself as heir apparent, and Rubio is also popular among Trump's base.

That said, just because I don't think they truly agree with all Trump's positions, doesn't mean I believe they're suddenly going to try to remove him. Why would they? They're certainly not going to do it for the good of the country, when they've already sold their souls in order to appease Trump and gain power.

Frankfooter · Mar 25, 2026

squeezer said:
They are not really kingmakers; they alone will not win an election. Trump was able to gain the independent, Latino, and male votes with his lies too add to the MAGA base. I'm not sure if I see another Trump waiting in the wings for the Republicans. The party if Trump were younger would push for a third term, but then again, this war may prove even Trump himself is dead in the water.

Vance will be tarred with backing trump and fucking couches forever.
I can't see how he gets past that.

Even another black flag can't help.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2036441825876255216

silentkisser · Mar 25, 2026

squeezer said:
Lutnick has been very quiet, or I just haven't noticed him yapping in the media since his embarrassing Epstein fiasco. Bessent keeps stumbling and mumbling his way through interviews, trying to pretend like he's not full of shit. LOL

Good point, I don't recall seeing Lutnick for a fairly long time, and I do think it coincides with those latest Epstein files showing he spent more time with that pedo....But, the point is, both men made fortunes working on Wall St. and should know economics, or at least global markets. The fact that they didn't say something to Trump, or just blindly support him shows how useless they are. The Emperor has no clothes. I can almost guarantee that Clinton, Bush, Obama and Biden all had aides or cabinet members who would push back against bad ideas. And the presidents probably respected and expected that, to avoid them making horrible mistakes.

We know that Trump doesn't do that. He's surrounded himself with Yes Men who can't even tell him that he bought them the wrong size of shoe. They won't play Devil's Advocate to things like attacking Iran. But, when Trump finally pulls the plug on this Iranian excursion, he'll throw them all under the bus because he never takes responsibility. It's always someone elses fault. Biden, Obama, soon Hegseth and Gabbard...

P0Pewlar · Mar 25, 2026

Frankfooter said:
Vance will be tarred with backing trump and fucking couches forever.
I can't see how he gets past that.

Even another black flag can't help.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2036441825876255216

I love the reply to Laura

WyattEarp · Mar 25, 2026

mandrill said:
Give it time. The Straits lock up for a few weeks longer and the US economy collapses and then the smarter sycophants - Vance, Bondi and Rubio - will sell the old man out and 25 him and the GOP's will go along with it to save their own asses.

I'm not sure you understand who gets their oil from the Persian Gulf.
The U.S and Canada each on their own are almost self-sufficient.

This is why Europe is always so cautious when dealing with Iran. They also have large Muslim populations.

The U.S. military has had to keep the Persian Gulf open for decades. We will see how this all evolves.

WyattEarp · Mar 25, 2026

jalimon said:
I understood why the Bush were elected. They were decent. They were able to grab the undecided vote. Even if, like usual, their republican years lead to war and recessions...

The economy is socialist. We invest when things are peaceful. I should get the Nobel Prize in economics with that sentence

And of course, the economy is good under the democrats. Crazy!

Are you having a fever dream?

The Quebec economy is a subsidized disaster.

Butler1000 · Mar 25, 2026

rhuarc29 said:
I don't think this is actually true. Many of them were outspoken against Trump's positions years ago. I highly suspect they're mostly playing along with Trump right now in order to improve their own positions. I mean, Vance is positioning himself as heir apparent, and Rubio is also popular among Trump's base.

That said, just because I don't think they truly agree with all Trump's positions, doesn't mean I believe they're suddenly going to try to remove him. Why would they? They're certainly not going to do it for the good of the country, when they've already sold their souls in order to appease Trump and gain power.

Going along for personal gain IS AGREEMENT.

Butler1000 · Mar 25, 2026

WyattEarp said:
I'm not sure you understand who gets their oil from the Persian Gulf.
The U.S and Canada each on their own are almost self-sufficient.

This is why Europe is always so cautious when dealing with Iran. They also have large Muslim populations.

The U.S. military has had to keep the Persian Gulf open for decades. We will see how this all evolves.

It's not just oil. There is a lot of investment that flows from the region that dries up. Military contracts, now data centers, tax free havens, cash infusions in various ways. The royal families own a lot.

It's not looking good right now for the USA. All the times they bluffed through things they finally are being called.

WyattEarp · Mar 25, 2026

squeezer said:
Imagine going blue in Florida! This is awesome and she will overwatch Mar o Lago, LMAO

Wanna a bet on that?

I haven't seen you so excited since Kamala Harris took over the Biden campaign.

Anyway, this Palm Beach County district swings back and forth. It tends to have a large, older Jewish community. Older Jews tend to have a sentimental attachment to the Democratic party. Florida is an interesting mix of native Floridians, migrated Americans and immigrants. The large Venezuelan and Cuban populations in Florida strongly support Trump. If you moved down from a high tax state, you probably have left the Democrats behind.

Given the predominance of liberals in our media, it's easy to get sucked into the hype every election cycle.
Enjoy your Pasta Talarico! It's like primavera, because meat-eating contributes to climate change.

Frankfooter · Mar 25, 2026

WyattEarp said:
I'm not sure you understand who gets their oil from the Persian Gulf.
The U.S and Canada each on their own are almost self-sufficient.

This is why Europe is always so cautious when dealing with Iran. They also have large Muslim populations.

The U.S. military has had to keep the Persian Gulf open for decades. We will see how this all evolves.

america is trying to control oil in Venezueal, Libya, Iraq and now Iran.
The states are the problem.

Its time the world went renewable and end these stupid oil wars forever.

WyattEarp · Mar 25, 2026

jalimon said:
And they may face a men. Sorry to say, but American Latinos are old school and do not vote much for women. They vote for the men, whatever their color, as we saw with Obama.

There are eighteen Latin women in the U.S. House. That's a sizeable amount of representation. Pretty amazing since Latin men don't really like to vote for women according to you.

WyattEarp · Mar 25, 2026

Butler1000 said:
It's not looking good right now for the USA. All the times they bluffed through things they finally are being called.

I guess that's one perspective.

The problem is that you are perceiving a past where the region was somewhat stable and a nuclear armed Iran that could be contained.
I don't think it's a realistic view of where things were at in the region.

jalimon · Mar 25, 2026

WyattEarp said:
Are you having a fever dream?

The Quebec economy is a subsidized disaster.

The market is North American, the US and Canada (I balance my portfolio to both).

My point was that if you look at the last 40 years, the republicans have been a disaster.

Take out your maga glasses before you look.

Butler1000 · Mar 25, 2026

WyattEarp said:
I guess that's one perspective.

The problem is that you are perceiving a past where the region was somewhat stable and a nuclear armed Iran that could be contained.
I don't think it's a realistic view of where things were at in the region.

Um, no, seeing a possible near future where the USA goes in and gets massacred on the ground. So they up the anti. And Iran goes total war and destroys all that infrastructure. Thats it that's the stark reality right now.

WyattEarp · Mar 25, 2026

Butler1000 said:
Um, no, seeing a possible near future where the USA goes in and gets massacred on the ground. So they up the anti. And Iran goes total war and destroys all that infrastructure. Thats it that's the stark reality right now.

How do you really know what the path was with Iran if the U.S. never attacked?
You think you had prescience of where Iran would be somewhat contained and restrained.

Iran is not a peaceful nation and hasn't been for decades. They attack Americans if they think they can get away with it. This is not a war that started in February or June 2025.

My opinion is that Trump simply accelerated the timeline for conflict to setback Iran's nuclear and missile programs. He also took a shot at their leadership structure.

squeezer · Mar 25, 2026

WyattEarp said:
I'm not sure you understand who gets their oil from the Persian Gulf.
The U.S and Canada each on their own are almost self-sufficient.

This is why Europe is always so cautious when dealing with Iran. They also have large Muslim populations.

The U.S. military has had to keep the Persian Gulf open for decades. We will see how this all evolves.

SO the US starts a war, gets the strait shut down and now, hmmm, they can just walk away because in your view you are clinging on to Trump's notion that "we don't need it, let the allies who I didn't consult now deal with it" bullshit and nonsense. MAN, your pretzelling to defend Trump in Ritchie's absence is commendable.

WyattEarp said:
Wanna a bet on that?

I haven't seen you so excited since Kamala Harris took over the Biden campaign.

Anyway, this Palm Beach County district swings back and forth. It tends to have a large, older Jewish community. Older Jews tend to have a sentimental attachment to the Democratic party. Florida is an interesting mix of native Floridians, migrated Americans and immigrants. The large Venezuelan and Cuban populations in Florida strongly support Trump. If you moved down from a high tax state, you probably have left the Democrats behind.

Given the predominance of liberals in our media, it's easy to get sucked into the hype every election cycle.
Enjoy your Pasta Talarico! It's like primavera, because meat-eating contributes to climate change.

SO you are excited because the Republicans are heading for a red wave in November?? IS that it??? I'd bet you they lose the HOUSE and probably the Senate too.

Insidious Von · Mar 25, 2026

JD doesn't have the gumption to replace America's Greatest President. Even if he becomes incapacitated, Steven Miller will become de facto President.

Sent Barron, let him lead Operation Epstein Fury.

squeezer · Mar 25, 2026

silentkisser said:
Good point, I don't recall seeing Lutnick for a fairly long time, and I do think it coincides with those latest Epstein files showing he spent more time with that pedo....But, the point is, both men made fortunes working on Wall St. and should know economics, or at least global markets.

Looks like Lutnick is going to have problems when and once the DEMS get power again.

There Could Genuinely Be A Conflict...': Issa Asks Trump Patent Official About Lutnick's Patents

WyattEarp · Mar 25, 2026

squeezer said:
SO the US starts a war, gets the strait shut down and now, hmmm, they can just walk away because in your view you are clinging on to Trump's notion that "we don't need it, let the allies who I didn't consult now deal with it" bullshit and nonsense. MAN, your pretzelling to defend Trump in Ritchie's absence is commendable.

You kind of obsess about this "pretzeling" thing in your head.
I presented some facts about gulf oil to mandrill.
You're the one adding all sorts of color beyond my words in your response.

Here was the post that you responded to. Please take any sentence and tell me where you object.

WyattEarp said:
I'm not sure you understand who gets their oil from the Persian Gulf.
The U.S and Canada each on their own are almost self-sufficient.

This is why Europe is always so cautious when dealing with Iran. They also have large Muslim populations.

The U.S. military has had to keep the Persian Gulf open for decades. We will see how this all evolves.

About the only statement that could be remotely considered subjective is we will see how all this evolves. Hardly a contentious thought.
I'm sorry that I have to be so didactic but you seem to have a hard time staying within the words on the page.

Butler1000 · Mar 25, 2026

WyattEarp said:
How do you really know what the path was with Iran if the U.S. never attacked?
You think you had prescience of where Iran would be somewhat contained and restrained.

Iran is not a peaceful nation and hasn't been for decades. They attack Americans if they think they can get away with it. This is not a war that started in February or June 2025.

My opinion is that Trump simply accelerated the timeline for conflict to setback Iran's nuclear and missile programs. He also took a shot at their leadership structure.

Except we have heard they are "weeks away" from a bomb since the 90's. Meanwhile Isreal has it, stole it from the USA, and has become an aggressor nation. The old Ayattolah had a Fatwa up, no nukes. So either they are the religious fanatics you say they are, or they are not.

Do I think the Shia Iran hated the Sunnis and Jews? Yes. Do I think they returned the favor? Yes I do. Remember 8 years of war STARTED by the USA via Iraq? The USA interference in the nation since 1953 is the major factor. You are not the victim here. Stop it Wyatt. You are not the good guys. Just a superpower doing the superpower thing.

Carney got it right at Davos.

And now things are where they are. So. How many US coffins, and how much billions in infrastructure are you willingly to take? How high oil prices, attended inflation, and loss of reputation will you take?

Guess we will see shortly.

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