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Trump gives Iran 48-hour ultimatum to reopen Strait of Hormuz: 'Hit and obliterate'

Frankfooter

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Just like the Iranians said that their missiles have only 2000 KM range but fired two that almost hit the Island of Diego Garcia which is 4000 km from Iran, hopefully the European goofs will meditate over this.
Israel fired those missiles from a sub at americans.
 

Frankfooter

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This is the first piece of good news if true. The good old days where everything is too expensive except gas will be back.
Sadly, either trump made it up to make a killing on the market or he said it as a ruse to stop Iran for a few hours while Israel and america attacked again.
Either way, nobody should ever trust america in negotiations again.

Same way trump started this war right after Iran agreed to terms during negotiations.

 

JohnLarue

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Let me explain what just happened 5 minutes before the President announced a halt to attacks on Iran… someone placed a $1.5 BILLION bet on stocks going up and dumped $192 million in oil. 5 minutes…

These trades were 4 to 6 times larger than anything else in the entire market. Whoever did this wasn’t guessing. You don’t risk $1.5 billion on a hunch.

There was zero public indication this announcement was coming. No leaks. No press. Nothing. The only people who knew were in the room when the decision was made. Someone in that room picked up a phone. And within minutes they made more money than most Americans will earn in a thousand lifetimes. In a single trade.

On a war that cost you $4+ a gallon gas and $16 billion in tax dollars.

American citizens funded this war. Politicians are profiting from it. This is not the first time. Every major announcement from this administration has had massive suspicious trades right before it dropped. Tariff reversals. Policy shifts. War decisions.

This is the most blatant insider trading operation in the history of American politics. It’s not even close. And it’s happening over and over in broad daylight. You would go to federal prison for trading on a tip from your cousin.

These people are front running war decisions with billion dollar bets and nobody will ever ask a single question. Nobody will be investigated. Nobody will be charged. By tomorrow this will be buried under the next satisfying headline. Just like last time. And the time before that. The game is rigged. And they’re not even trying to hide it anymore…
That's odd.
your source "Bark" on X appears to have an over active imagination or he just creates misinformation

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On March 23, 2026, the S&P 500 experienced significant trading activity, with approximately 3.49 billion shares changing hands, according to data from Yahoo! Finance Canada. The index advanced by 1.15% to close at 6,581.00. Large volume bursts in S&P 500 stocks reached 37.5 million shares, totaling roughly $7.1 billion in specific large-trade transactions, with a net positive volume of +274.1 million, as reported by Market Chameleon

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As of March 23, 2026, the stock market experienced high volatility amid geopolitical tensions in the Middle East, with major U.S. indices seeing significant shifts following news regarding U.S.-Iran relations
. While several large financial transactions occurred on this date, the most prominent "$1.5 billion" news involved corporate debt and equity rather than a single speculative "bet."
your source "Bark" on X appears to think he has an excuse when someone calls him on his bullshit'

Nobody will be investigated. Nobody will be charged. By tomorrow this will be buried under the next satisfying headline. Just like last time. And the time before that.
how convenient

There is no evidence for to support "Bark" on X claim ...... because it is covered up .... Just like last time. And the time before that.
There is no evidence for to support "Bark" on X claim ...... because there is no evidence .... Just like last time. And the time before that.


"Bark" on X is a bull shit artist and you are smart enough to have figured that out
instead you intentionally spread misinformation
 
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wigglee

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you claim to despise the murderous Iranian regime with a passion.
but then go on an Iranian cheerleading rant

your passion is a disingenuous pile of steaming bovine scattology



Unbelievable

Iran seeks to acquire Nuclear weapons so they can exterminate a sovereign country and its 10 million citizens and you say this is nothing ??
Just genocide , but hey these are just Jews so you give Iran a pass

the world's leading state sponsor of terrorism is defined as nothing according to you

Irans leadership are irrational religious fanatic nutjobs who are a danger to the entire world and must not be permitted to acquire nuclear weapons
They claim to have destroyed Iran's nuclear capability, yet they are still making war. Israel is a much larger terror threat. They are using false justification again.... can you say "WMD's"? Meanwhile the world suffers massively, but that's ok, as long as the Trump-Epstein files are off the front page.
 

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Let me explain what just happened 5 minutes before the President announced a halt to attacks on Iran… someone placed a $1.5 BILLION bet on stocks going up and dumped $192 million in oil. 5 minutes…

These trades were 4 to 6 times larger than anything else in the entire market. Whoever did this wasn’t guessing. You don’t risk $1.5 billion on a hunch.

There was zero public indication this announcement was coming. No leaks. No press. Nothing. The only people who knew were in the room when the decision was made. Someone in that room picked up a phone. And within minutes they made more money than most Americans will earn in a thousand lifetimes. In a single trade.

On a war that cost you $4+ a gallon gas and $16 billion in tax dollars.

American citizens funded this war. Politicians are profiting from it. This is not the first time. Every major announcement from this administration has had massive suspicious trades right before it dropped. Tariff reversals. Policy shifts. War decisions.

This is the most blatant insider trading operation in the history of American politics. It’s not even close. And it’s happening over and over in broad daylight. You would go to federal prison for trading on a tip from your cousin.

These people are front running war decisions with billion dollar bets and nobody will ever ask a single question. Nobody will be investigated. Nobody will be charged. By tomorrow this will be buried under the next satisfying headline. Just like last time. And the time before that. The game is rigged. And they’re not even trying to hide it anymore…

Most of his major announcements have been either before the markets opened or after the markets closed. CNN documented timing of most of his major announcements
 

princekwekua

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Iran says no dialogue with US:

Iran on Monday denied any dialogue with Washington, dismissing President Donald Trump’s claims as an attempt to lower energy prices and buy time for military plans, several Iranian state-affiliated media outlets reported citing the foreign ministry.
There are “initiatives” from regional countries to “reduce tensions,” the foreign said, according to Mehr News. “Our response to all of them is clear: we are not the party that started this war, and all these requests should be referred to Washington.”
 

mandrill

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Its about time you can't have these religious lunatics hijack oil every few years.


President Donald Trump on Saturday issued a stark ultimatum to Iran, warning that the United States will launch strikes on the country’s power infrastructure if the Strait of Hormuz is not reopened within 48 hours.

“If Iran doesn’t FULLY OPEN, WITHOUT THREAT, the Strait of Hormuz, within 48 HOURS from this exact point in time, the United States of America will hit and obliterate their various POWER PLANTS, STARTING WITH THE BIGGEST ONE FIRST!” Trump wrote.

The threat marks a significant escalation in rhetoric as tensions surge over the strategically vital waterway.
Trump added, “Thank you for your attention to this matter,” signing the message “President DONALD J. TRUMP.”

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So how's this working out for you and your boy, Heeffy?
 

mandrill

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BREAKING: Arab mediators have privately told the Wall Street Journal they are skeptical the US and Iran can reach a quick agreement. The two sides remain “far apart.” Iran is actively distancing itself from talks. Trump is pushing for a deal that the other side says does not exist.

The 5-day pause expires Saturday. The Islamabad meeting has not been confirmed. Ghalibaf calls reports of negotiations “fake news designed to manipulate oil markets.” The Iranian Foreign Ministry has denied contact for the fourth time. And the mediators who are supposed to bridge the gap now privately admit they cannot see the other side of it.

The gap is not rhetorical. It is structural. The United States demands verifiable, unconditional reopening of the Strait of Hormuz for all commercial traffic without tolls or vetting. Iran demands lifting of select sanctions, a guarantee against future strikes on energy infrastructure, and recognition of its regional security role. Washington wants the toll booth demolished. Tehran wants to keep the toll booth and be paid to open it wider.

These are not positions that meet in the middle. These are positions that define opposite architectures for the post-war order. The discussions, to the extent they exist, focus on short-term de-escalation: an immediate ceasefire, limited Hormuz reopening, and a framework for longer talks. Not comprehensive peace. Not nuclear rollback. Not Hormuz resolution. A pause within a pause. A framework for discussing a framework.

The ambition has already shrunk from “complete and total resolution of hostilities” to “can we agree to keep talking after Saturday.”

While the diplomats negotiate the shape of the table, three clocks are running that no negotiation can pause. Clock one: the nitrogen trap. The Hormuz corridor denies fertiliser passage at any price. Russia has halted ammonium nitrate exports until after April 21. China has banned nitrogen-potassium blends and phosphate through August. The US Corn Belt nitrogen window closes mid-April. Bangladeshi Boro rice transplanting is underway now. The FAO Food Price Index already rose 0.9 percent in February before the worst impacts hit.

The World Bank estimates every 1 percent fertiliser price increase pushes global food prices up 0.45 percent. Urea is up 30 to 40 percent since the war began. The planting window is biological. It does not wait for Islamabad.

Clock two: the carry trade. Japan’s 10-year yield sits at 2.278 percent, highest since 1999. The 40-year is at 3.77. Life insurers holding $5 trillion in foreign assets are repatriating. The BOJ is signalling tightening. The Fed cannot cut because inflation is 2.7 percent on war oil. The ECB is hiking.

Every day the diplomatic stall continues is a day the carry trade unwind accelerates and global borrowing costs rise.

Clock three: the yuan precedent. Every tanker that pays the IRGC $2 million in yuan to transit the permissioned corridor establishes a precedent for non-dollar energy settlement. Every day the toll booth operates is a day the proof of concept strengthens. The diplomatic stall does not freeze the yuan rail. It accelerates it. By the time the mediators bridge the gap, the payment infrastructure being built under fire may be permanent.

The mediators are skeptical. The sides are far apart. The pause expires Saturday. And the three clocks that actually determine the outcome of this war, nitrogen, yields, and yuan, do not attend diplomatic briefings. They tick. https://open.substack.com/pub/shanakaans
 

JohnLarue

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They claim to have destroyed Iran's nuclear capability, yet they are still making war
Iran is still launching missiles

. Israel is a much larger terror threat.
you have confused survival with terror threat
Here is a list of peace offers which would have granted the Palestinians a country of their own, they refused all of them

1919: Arabs of Palestine refused nominate representatives to the Paris Peace Conference.
1920: San Remo conference decisions, rejected.
1922: League of Nations decisions, rejected.
1937: Peel Commission partition proposal, rejected.
1938: Woodhead partition proposal, rejected
1947: UN General Assembly partition proposal (UNGAR 181), rejected.
1949: Israel’s outstretched hand for peace (UNGAR 194), rejected.
1967: Israel’s outstretched hand for peace (UNSCR 242), rejected.
1978: Begin/Sa’adat peace proposal, rejected (except for Egypt).
1994: Rabin/Hussein peace agreement, rejected by the rest of the Arab League (except for Egypt).
1995: Rabin’s Contour-for-Peace, rejected.
2000: Barak/Clinton peace offer, rejected.
2001: Barak’s offer at Taba, rejected.
2005: Sharon’s peace gesture, withdrawal from Gaza, rejected.
2008: Olmert/Bush peace offer, rejected.
2009 to 2021: Netanyahu’s repeated invitations to peace talks, rejected.
2014: Kerry’s Contour-for-Peace, rejected.
2020 "Deal of the Century": Rejected by the Palestinian Authority.

Here is a list of peace offers the Palestinians offered to Israel -None.

Iran's position on Israel is Israel needs to be exterminated

Can’t make peace with someone who’s identity revolves around killing you

there is no getting around this very ugly reality
As long as radical Islamic madmen seek to exterminate a sovereign state and its 10 million citizens , the madmen are the biggest threat to world peace

wake up
Israel has the right to exist

They are using false justification again.... can you say "WMD's"?
can you say misinformed, dumber than a bag of hammers, ideological fool ?


Meanwhile the world suffers massively, but that's ok, as long as the Trump-Epstein files are off the front page.
Meanwhile your failed ideology has caused long term suffering where ever it is implemented, but that's ok, as long as you get whine about where ever it is not implemented

so if you were given two and only two option which would you chose ?
  1. be exterminated
  2. take out those that seek to exterminate you

The Soviet Union was one of the most disgusting and evil empires ever
I despise the Soviet Union and the evil they inflicted on their own citizens and other nations

Yet when attacked in a war of extermination by Hitler, they were fully justified in defending themselves and killing every Nazi they could find
Germany and Germans paid a terrible price for adopting genocide as a national policy
Iran will pay a terrible price for adopting genocide as a national policy
 
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