Is Canada heading toward a recession?

CLOUD 500

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Trudeau happened, It's over. Now what? We have to hold these leaders accountable. Some people got to stop with the excuses.

With that said, I think things are going to get much worse before they get better.
Trudeau is a free man even though he belongs in jail. No one is concerned with that. Things are getting worse. Carney is making backroom deal in a sneaky and underhanded way to secure a majority. The biggest threat to Canada are those still supporting this corrupt party. Here far-left wackos are more concerned with Trump and Iran and Palestine.
 

CLOUD 500

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Oh, so you've changed your mind!
Now you do think it is about that Pollievre would be better.

Why specifically deny that earlier, then?
I never did. You are twisting my words.
 

CLOUD 500

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So even if the Liberals did make things better and you knew the Conservatives would make things worse, you would say people should vote Conservative?
I am not like Liberal voters. I do not vote for a party in the sense that Conservatives are evil and Liberals are angels. I vote based on the leader and what the platform is. Before Trudeau believe it or not I always voted Liberal. Then Trudeau came and veered completely to the left. He brought his own sense of far-left wacko beliefs and wokeness and not to mention is totally corrupt. I never seen a leader in all the 40 years I remember a PM as corrupt as Trudeau. He is also the first PM to be charged with ethics violations. That tells a lot about a man. Because of Trudeau, I will never give a vote to the Liberal party. This whole party needs to be cleaned out with all those corrupt cabinet members that Trudeau choose.
 

Valcazar

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I am not like Liberal voters. I do not vote for a party in the sense that Conservatives are evil and Liberals are angels. I vote based on the leader and what the platform is. Before Trudeau believe it or not I always voted Liberal. Then Trudeau came and veered completely to the left. He brought his own sense of far-left wacko beliefs and wokeness and not to mention is totally corrupt. I never seen a leader in all the 40 years I remember a PM as corrupt as Trudeau. He is also the first PM to be charged with ethics violations. That tells a lot about a man. Because of Trudeau, I will never give a vote to the Liberal party. This whole party needs to be cleaned out with all those corrupt cabinet members that Trudeau choose.
So the position you meant to say was "The Liberals are so corrupt that even if the replacements produce worse results, the Liberals must be removed from power and cleaned out".
 

CLOUD 500

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These aren't your words?
So the position you meant to say was "The Liberals are so corrupt that even if the replacements produce worse results, the Liberals must be removed from power and cleaned out".
Because it is a what if. You like a lot of Liberal voters make the assumption that Polievre will be worse, but he is not the one in power. The Liberals were. We dunno what the results will produce but we cannot leave this status quo. Lets deal with cold hard facts. So far of all PMs, Trudeau proved to be the worst and most corrupt. We got the biggest gap between rich and poor ever witnessed. Homelessness is exploding, we got a massive housing crisis caused by Trudeau's mass immigration policy. Carney was Trudeau's economic advisor for five years. Carney has Mark Wiseman in his cabinet who is the father of the Century Initiative which is nothing but an organization to make the rich more richer. They want 100 million people by 2100. Trudeau is giving more benefits to asylum seekers then Canadians. They get free hotels, monthly paychecks, better healthcare then Canadians. I could go on and on, my point is Trudeau is the worst so anyone else will be a big improvement. Definitely will not be the NDP as Singh is propped up Trudeau each time. If you ask me I think the best person would be Maxime Bernier of the PPC.
 

Valcazar

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Because it is a what if. You like a lot of Liberal voters make the assumption that Polievre will be worse, but he is not the one in power. The Liberals were. We dunno what the results will produce but we cannot leave this status quo. Lets deal with cold hard facts. So far of all PMs, Trudeau proved to be the worst and most corrupt. We got the biggest gap between rich and poor ever witnessed. Homelessness is exploding, we got a massive housing crisis caused by Trudeau's mass immigration policy. Carney was Trudeau's economic advisor for five years. Carney has Mark Wiseman in his cabinet who is the father of the Century Initiative which is nothing but an organization to make the rich more richer. They want 100 million people by 2100. Trudeau is giving more benefits to asylum seekers then Canadians. They get free hotels, monthly paychecks, better healthcare then Canadians. I could go on and on, my point is Trudeau is the worst so anyone else will be a big improvement. Definitely will not be the NDP as Singh is propped up Trudeau each time. If you ask me I think the best person would be Maxime Bernier of the PPC.
This isn't "it doesn't matter", this is "here are a bunch of reasons".
Like I said, my issue was just your very odd "it doesn't matter".

I'm glad you have backed off from that position (or clarified your point upon being challenged).

(I am glad you are saying that while you would prefer the PPC, you would take the NDP if you thought they could win.)
 

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Don't you mean the world?
 

DesRicardo

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Huh.
You don't care if things will get better, you just want change.
"It's their turn, so people should vote for them no matter what, even if it makes things worse"?

That's a weird position to take.
It's actually not uncommon for people to vote to remove or block candidates or parties from winning.
 

Valcazar

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It's actually not uncommon for people to vote to remove or block candidates or parties from winning.
Indeed it isn't.
In first past the post, it is very common.

They still don't usually use the argument "it doesn't matter if it makes things better" as why it should be done, though.
 

CLOUD 500

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(I am glad you are saying that while you would prefer the PPC, you would take the NDP if you thought they could win.)
Lol Far from that. Since Trudeau I will never vote for the Liberals or NDP. After the way they encourage covid mandates and supported a mass uncontrolled immigration policy and found any way to redistribute wealth and promoted homosexuality, encouraged misandry and feminism, I am done with both these parties. The only time I voted for the NDP was when Jack Layton was the leader. But none of these current sleazeballs are any match for the integrity of Layton. Carney is Trudeau 2.0..
 
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Lol Far from that. Since Trudeau I will never vote for the Liberals or NDP. After the way they encourage covid mandates and supported a mass uncontrolled immigration policy and found any way to redistribute wealth and promoted homosexuality, encouraged misandry and feminism, I am done with both these parties. The only time I voted for the NDP was when Jack Layton was the leader. But none of these current sleazeballs are any match for the integrity of Layton. Carney is Trudeau 2.0..
Honestly, all the major parties have their issues. At this point it’s less about finding a perfect option and more about voting for the lesser of the evils.
 

CLOUD 500

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Honestly, all the major parties have their issues. At this point it’s less about finding a perfect option and more about voting for the lesser of the evils.
Agreed. That is always what I said.
 

CLOUD 500

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Either way, historically speaking, extreme inflation is always the first indicator of a recession. Next is housing price deflation. Next is mass layoffs. We are already there.
Inflation yes and recession yes but house prices will never deflate in Canada because the Liberal government will keep the floodgates open to mass immigration. Rapid population increase will keep demand high. That has been the issue since Trudeau got in power is there was a big mismatch between supply and demand they know about this but Trudeau did not care except to have never ending GDP growth.
 

AndrewTheMandrew

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Inflation yes and recession yes but house prices will never deflate in Canada because the Liberal government will keep the floodgates open to mass immigration. Rapid population increase will keep demand high. That has been the issue since Trudeau got in power is there was a big mismatch between supply and demand they know about this but Trudeau did not care except to have never ending GDP growth.
I guess that is one benefit of it. But it's not worth it due to the drastic increase in crime.
 

CLOUD 500

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I guess that is one benefit of it. But it's not worth it due to the drastic increase in crime.
And do not forget the overcrowding. I mean who wants to ride in overcrowded subways, overcrowded buses, be stuck in traffic all the time and live in small overprices condos. The appeal that Canada had was single detached homes with wide open spaces and wide roads with low traffic with nature. The typical suburbs of the 60s.
 
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