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mandrill said:
They should have mentioned that. But they should also have left the minesweepers in theatre if they had any idea at all that they might have to force the Straits of Hormuz. They'll need every ship they can deploy.
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I agree they should've left them all. There must be a reason.
 
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Shaquille Oatmeal said:
After Iran, it is Turkey. But it may be more complicated due to NATO.
But will NATO even survive Trump? Not sure.
Nukes are the way to go for these countries.
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In retrospect, Trumps constant criticism of EU and of Nato appears to be the beginning of an off ramp so that U.S. can
support Israel if/when they start to go after Turkey. At that point, U.S. may initiate a decoupling from Nato and will be able to support Israel's
expansion without any diplomatic conflict of interest.
 
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mandrill said:
They should have mentioned that. But they should also have left the minesweepers in theatre if they had any idea at all that they might have to force the Straits of Hormuz. They'll need every ship they can deploy.
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Minesweeping cannot be done under persistent attack so it pointless. I doubt Iran will use mines, they don't need to.
 
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Israel attacked the South Pars gas field in Iran, so now expect oil and gas assets to be sequentially laid to waste in the Gulf. This will not be a short war and its effects will last our lifetimes.
 
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mellowjello said:
In retrospect, Trumps constant criticism of EU and of Nato appears to be the beginning of an off ramp so that U.S. can
support Israel if/when they start to go after Turkey. At that point, U.S. may initiate a decoupling from Nato and will be able to support Israel's
expansion without any diplomatic conflict of interest.
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A likely scenario, however Turkiye who not be an easy push over. There's a possibility of others such as Egypt and Jordan getting very concerned and breaking the peace treaty...
 
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nottyboi said:
Israel attacked the South Pars gas field in Iran, so now expect oil and gas assets to be sequentially laid to waste in the Gulf. This will not be a short war and its effects will last our lifetimes.
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The stock markets are not happy...
 
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ILuvToFu said:
A likely scenario, however Turkiye who not be an easy push over. There's a possibility of others such as Egypt and Jordan getting very concerned and breaking the peace treaty...
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Because, lord knows, POS Nation would never break a treaty, break a ceasefire or murder those they are negotiating with.
 
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