Yawn. Can we go back to talking about beautiful women?
SP under $250 in Ottawa
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This isn’t true at all. People haggle in a ton of industries. Go shoot a wedding video or run a landscaping business for 5 minutes.
As someone who ran a construction business and did the sales for two years, I can tell you there is a major difference between quoting a construction job where there are a lot of fluctuating variables, especially for a job that might run over several days or weeks, and setting a fixed hourly rate as a service provider! And by the way, when you negotiate in construction, corners often get cut so that’s not always a great idea either.
Just because you can negotiate in some industries, doesn’t mean it’s acceptable to negotiate in all industries. I don’t negotiate with a restaurant when I go out for dinner, I don’t negotiate with Ticketmaster when I book a concert, I wish I could negotiate with my lawyer but unfortunately that’s a non-starter too!
Over and above that, trying to negotiate is a great way to get blocked. It's a waste of our time and offensive TBH, especially if someone tries to mansplain our business and worth to us. If you want to get the best service, put your best foot forward. A little charm goes a long way!
The one exception I'll make is when someone is asking for something I might reasonably offer such as a regular arrangement, vacation date, unique fantasy or perhaps a social only rate. I'm ok with an approach where you ask me to make a custom quote or say what your budget is so I can respond with what’s possible. Just don't write ladies who post a fixed rate asking if we can meet for less or argue that our fees are out of alignment with the market
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I didn’t advocate for negotiating. I treat SP’s the same way I treat any service. Value is number 1. Am I getting what I’m paying for.
If an SP’s rates are higher than I’m willing to pay, I just don’t contact her.
I find it hard to believe that you didn’t come across hagglers, low ballers and outright deadbeats in the constitution business. As a younger man I can remember constantly fighting with bosses over hours, pay, etc. I've witnessed disputes and complaints over pricing firsthand.
Also in the service industry, you do “negotiate” somewhat by what kind of tip you leave.
The idea that SP’s are off limits is ridiculous to me, especially since most have tiers they provide, some charge more in one city than another, they have a MP persona and a SP persona, they have ads on different sites with different pricing, etc.
It’s the game. We want to pay the least and you want to make the most. There’s always middle ground to be found.
If an SP’s rates are higher than I’m willing to pay, I just don’t contact her.
I find it hard to believe that you didn’t come across hagglers, low ballers and outright deadbeats in the constitution business. As a younger man I can remember constantly fighting with bosses over hours, pay, etc. I've witnessed disputes and complaints over pricing firsthand.
Also in the service industry, you do “negotiate” somewhat by what kind of tip you leave.
The idea that SP’s are off limits is ridiculous to me, especially since most have tiers they provide, some charge more in one city than another, they have a MP persona and a SP persona, they have ads on different sites with different pricing, etc.
It’s the game. We want to pay the least and you want to make the most. There’s always middle ground to be found.
It goes both ways. There are ladies that up charge for everything. Constantly nag you in session to buy extras.
Every time someone negotiates with me and I respectfully tell them “unfortunately that doesn’t work for me, but there are many lovely ladies on LL that have these price points” it’s like I’ve become the bitch after or I’m rude - like why doesn’t it have to be me, choose someone else
You misunderstood my post completly. In some businesses such as landscaping which is construction, price negotiation is part of the contracting process. I could go into granular details explaining why but this convo would become even more of a snooze-fest. I think you also missed my point about corners likely getting cut, the profit has to come from somewhere.
If you don't understand negotiations are innappropriate in many other contexts including fees for services. especially those where there is a fixed hourly rate I don't know how to help you. I already explained why and that should be enough.
Providers have different touring rates because touring changes our expenses and labour. Some display different rates in ads to attract eyeballs on specific platforms but the fees are the same as their website when you write. Others are maybe running a promotion for certain dates or with prebooking. MP is a different service so of course it’s a different rate. None of this means fees are negotiable.
Maybe it's a “game” for you and possibly even for some SPs but a lot of us run ourselves as a professional, straightforward business where we are not looking for players and manipulators. That kind of stress is not for me. We spend many hours researching and running numbers to come up with our rates, they're not random and we have already posted what we are willing and able to offer. Rest assured, if the market or other factors shift things, we will surely adjust. We do not need clients writing us informing us that we should do so!
The fact you're assuming it's all a big game is disrespectful in itself. The games belong in the bedroom, not when you’re writing someone to convince them you’re a safe and respectful client we might want to share some intimate time with. Step one is respecting our policies, boundaries and not acting like it’s all a big goof.
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Jesus some of you guys are treating providers like you were buying a used garden hose off FB marketplace. Embarrassing.
Theredmilf is spot on. If you can’t afford it, that’s on you. If you think it’s not worth the price of admission, move on. Holy smokes some of you make this more complicated than it is.
Theredmilf is spot on. If you can’t afford it, that’s on you. If you think it’s not worth the price of admission, move on. Holy smokes some of you make this more complicated than it is.
Many ladies are removing that option as they are finding it more work than it’s worth. It’s been discussed before.
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Hobbying is not something you are entitled to or meant for those budget minded. Also sp are not obligated to make themselves affordable to anyone. If you are looking to pinch Pennie’s with rates then you should really lower your expectations as well and not complain about what you would consider a lacklustre experience when it happens.
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Price doesn't equate service level. I've tried some of the $400-500 hour ladies before. Honestly I had more fun with some MA and a hand job for $180-200 hour.
Find a lady you click with that you think is reasonable priced for your income. Don't waste your or the ladies time if they are out of range
Find a lady you click with that you think is reasonable priced for your income. Don't waste your or the ladies time if they are out of range
I couldn't agree more, not all but most encounters I've had w ddg where face is 15/10, was actually brutal
Now you're pushing past Spinal Tap levels and I don't think science allows for more than 11
Sorry
This us 2026 not 2020
Inflation & cost of living have skyrocketed.
Expenses for SPs has drastically increased whether running an incall or touring. Hotel rooms have gotten goofy since Covid. Fuel to travel....
It's a hobby, play within your budget. I've been hobbying for over 20yrs, my budget or spending limit has changed over the years.
When I started it was $120-150 for 1hr, then 180, then 200, 220, 250..... see the trend.
I still enjoy the hobby but not as often. Formally 12-24 times a year vs 8-12 now with prices 300 & up in the larger cities. Yes you might find a gem on LL, BUT very rare. There are a few trusted websites & check multiple spots. Smaller cities have a few gems under 300.... Just not in the larger centers.
DO NOT negotiate with a SP, your not buying a car, house, etc. We are talking human contact with you. You can't negotiate with Starbucks Tim's or any other restaurant. Don't try it with a SP.
You know your old at this hobby, when you recall SPs offering grandfather pricing as prices went up. Now that I'm a grandfather that's no longer offered sadly..... if it was, I'd be back hobbying over 15-20 times a year or more
This us 2026 not 2020
Inflation & cost of living have skyrocketed.
Expenses for SPs has drastically increased whether running an incall or touring. Hotel rooms have gotten goofy since Covid. Fuel to travel....
It's a hobby, play within your budget. I've been hobbying for over 20yrs, my budget or spending limit has changed over the years.
When I started it was $120-150 for 1hr, then 180, then 200, 220, 250..... see the trend.
I still enjoy the hobby but not as often. Formally 12-24 times a year vs 8-12 now with prices 300 & up in the larger cities. Yes you might find a gem on LL, BUT very rare. There are a few trusted websites & check multiple spots. Smaller cities have a few gems under 300.... Just not in the larger centers.
DO NOT negotiate with a SP, your not buying a car, house, etc. We are talking human contact with you. You can't negotiate with Starbucks Tim's or any other restaurant. Don't try it with a SP.
You know your old at this hobby, when you recall SPs offering grandfather pricing as prices went up. Now that I'm a grandfather that's no longer offered sadly..... if it was, I'd be back hobbying over 15-20 times a year or more
This!
Honestly, idk why people always derail this kind of threads into complains about why some SP charges so much, or if they're "not that hot" or that "good".
They can create a post about "what do you think is a fair price for full service" or whatever, and pour all their gripes and grumbles there.
Value is 100 percent subjective. Do I want to spend time with the likes of gorgeous Ruby lust, Lucie Laflamme, Sasha May, etc? Oh yeah, but I won't bother them until I can afford her rates, not the other way around. Hell, maybe there is a chance where we might just won't click and the experience won't be what I was expectimg, but that doesn't mean their service is not worth their value.
In the meantime I just would like to have a trustworthy list of providers that fit my current budget and their service is solid. That's all.
Peace.
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Bless to you sweetheart, and you know if I didn't have kids, a mortgage and “retirement” breathing down my neck I could probably get a little more goofy myself on the business side of things but I have such a small runway for me & learned through the school of hard knocks I have to take care of myself first and fill my own cup up to have enough to give to others, especially if I want longevity. Yes I do dream of being a sexy and loving GILF one day!
I have so much respect for you guys who respect us and try to promote great behaviour on both sides. We are blessed with so many queens, you can definitely find those you match with and let the sparks fly.
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Cristina is $200 hh, $400 h
