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CLOUD 500

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Barney Rubble said:
They just scrapped the EV mandate so you can relax.

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Carney scraps EV mandate, vows $2.3B in consumer rebates in new auto plan | Globalnews.ca

Prime Minister Mark Carney was in the Greater Toronto Area and spoke on what is being billed as 'new measures to transform Canada’s auto manufacturing sector for the future.'
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True but now they are using taxpayers money to get more people to buy EVs which is total madness. It is like I take the money from your wallet then offer you a gift with the money I took from your wallet.
Barney Rubble said:
Agree to disagree on the timeline, but I definitely can blame people for being hostile about the vehicles and those who buy them. They're a great product that serve their purpose well. Are they for everyone right now? Of course not. But for me, it's ideal.
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I do not because it is being forced. I am hostile also. I am for free choice, each person should have a free choice to choose.
 
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Barney Rubble said:
There are tons of rebates for energy efficient stuff. Furnaces, insulation, windows... And EV cars ARE selling. They're more than 20% of all sales now. Pick-up truck sales are around 20% too.

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^^^^ GM is among many other car manufacturers that are scrapping EVs or reducing it. The demand is declining. They need government mandates and subsidies for it to sell more. When subsidies were scrapped EV sales went down. Such measures speaks volumes to what consumers want and the usefulness of EVs. They are not there yet to replace ICEs, the technology probably needs another decade. There is one major hurdle and if it cannot be solved I do not see EVs ever replacing ICEs and that is charging times. One has to be able to charge an EV to full capacity the same time it takes to refuel and the electrical network will need major upgrades to be able to handle all that power.
 
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No they are not.

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^^^^ GM is among many other car manufacturers that are scrapping EVs or reducing it. The demand is declining. They need government mandates and subsidies for it to sell more. When subsidies were scrapped EV sales went down. Such measures speaks volumes to what consumers want and the usefulness of EVs. They are not there yet to replace ICEs, the technology probably needs another decade. There is one major hurdle and if it cannot be solved I do not see EVs ever replacing ICEs and that is charging times. One has to be able to charge an EV to full capacity the same time it takes to refuel and the electrical network will need major upgrades to be able to handle all that power.
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That. The only time government intervention is justified is when there is a public good or a natural monopoly. If the government wants to spend money on the transition from gas to electric cars, it should subsidize or directly invest in infrastructure, not give rebates for purchasing the electric cars. Once every existing gas station has enough fast charging stationsto accommodate all cars that are willing to use it, then people will start buying the electric cars. An artificial increase in demand for such cars will only create future problems with infrastructure.
 
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That. The only time government intervention is justified is when there is a public good or a natural monopoly. If the government wants to spend money on the transition from gas to electric cars, it should subsidize or directly invest in infrastructure, not give rebates for purchasing the electric cars. Once every existing gas station has enough fast charging stationsto accommodate all cars that are willing to use it, then people will start buying the electric cars. An artificial increase in demand for such cars will only create future problems with infrastructure.
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Building infrastructure is part of the government's duties. Canada's land is so vast and much of it is on the Canadian Shield. These places will always remain sparsely populated given the geography and weather and it is in those places that charging stations are very much needed. They did the same thing in the early 20th century when money was used to build lots of gas stations all over the country. There was an big increase in ICE cars so they had to make gas stations to accommodate the cars. It is weird how the Liberal government thinks. It is always virtue signalling with them.
 
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I wouldn't buy an EV car if you paid me. It tracks you. You have pay a subscription to unlock the best features. You can only get it fixed at a proper dealership. You get into a bump and they get written off so quickly.

I love the modern fuel efficient gas cars. Mine never breaks down. And if it did I can fix most of it myself without it sending a text message to the mother ship to complain. I never have to worry about plugging it in. It has a pretty decent range. And the whole thing is probably cheaper than the battery on your Tesla...
 
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Jami77 said:
I wouldn't buy an EV car if you paid me. It tracks you. You have pay a subscription to unlock the best features. You can only get it fixed at a proper dealership. You get into a bump and they get written off so quickly.
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I hate to tell you this, but tracking has nothing to do with your drivetrain. I have an EV - subscription is covered for the term of my lease. It's under warranty for the term of my lease. And just about every car gets written off quickly these days. If the airbags deploy, it's basically done.
 
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DesRicardo said:
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China denies forced labour allegations amid fallout from Michael Ma’s comments - National | Globalnews.ca

China is denying allegations of forced labour as pressure mounts on PM Carney to clarify Canada’s stance after comments from a Liberal MP raised questions about reported abuses.
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Come buy you slave labour EV, brehs
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I'm sure it's only EVs and everything else you by from China is made by well paid employees, working 30 hours per week, and 10 weeks vacation per year.
 
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Barney Rubble said:
I'm sure it's only EVs and everything else you by from China is made by well paid employees, working 30 hours per week, and 10 weeks vacation per year.
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What type of pro-CCP mindset it this?

"Well, everything there is made by forced labour so it's ok. You can just add it to the horrible forced labour list".
 
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Barney Rubble

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It's not pro-CCP at all. But unless you're going to stop buying anything from China, why would you limit your boycott to EVs?
 
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