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Trump urges other nations to send warships to the Mideast

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The problem with Trump’s inner circle is that it’s dominated by people who think exactly like he does, leaving little room for dissenting views. Instead of offering honest advice, many of his advisers seem to compete over who can flatter him the most.

It mirrors a broader dynamic in American politics, where politicians often try to outdo each other in proving who "loves" Isreal the most 🙄

The result is an echo chamber—an inbreeding of ideas—where criticism disappears, groupthink takes over, and poor decisions become almost inevitable.

This is opening up to be the mother of all I Told You So!
Some reporting (which feels true) says that they didn't have the smartest experts in the room during the decision process. Basically, all the people who would've told Trump that Iran would not surrender if they took out Khamenei, they would attack bases in the gulf (along with US allies), and would work to close the Strait of Hormuz.

I've also read (and this one I think gives me more pause) that Trump allegedly expected his approval rating to jump just like it did for the Bush's back in 1991 and 2003...Like, he thought it would jump to 80%. Now, I've very skeptical about that, but at the same time, I wouldn't necessarily be shocked about that stupidity.
 
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Trump warns NATO, demands countries help secure Strait of Hormuz


Whatever. They can't afford to lose access to various bases.
 

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I've heard a bunch of Trump fart catchers over the past few days going on and on about how the Donald is playing 5D chess and what not. But, when they're asked pointed questions, like why did he say he didn't need European or regional allies two weeks ago, he's now begging for help. And, if he was so sharp, why didn't he realize Iran would close the Strait? They, obviously cannot give any credible answer.

As many of us on this board have said, Trump did not enter this war with a few important details: what the goal was, how to de-escalate and when to end this. Now he's sending 2,000 marines to the area. Apparently they mothballed a bunch of minesweepers in the past few months, ships that would have been very useful right about now....Finally, apparently the stable genius and his advisors never replenished the strategic oil reserve in the US, leading to a spike in gas prices...

What is striking is that both Bush's, in the lead up to their gulf adventures, spend months greasing the diplomatic wheels to build consensus and support. They then also spend time ensuring that there were military resources in the vicinity, so if the shooting war started, they could do what they needed. This war feels like he flipped a coin and said, fuck it, let's do it. Gulf and European allies are pissed because they had little to no warning the war was starting, and now after months of Trump shitting on them and their economies, he wants their help...
 

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The MAGA faithful are contemplating where to build Trump The Redeemer. Ideally they want to tear down the Lincoln Memorial but the ground is too soft to support a vertical monument. They want to tear down the Washington Monument and replace it with Trump the Redeemer. It would be awesome! This is what it would look like.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2ULp9FQr9nY

Pam Bondi says Trump is America's Greatest President, she's being modest.

 

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The school yard bully now wants help. That is so sickeningly Donald of you. You really are the scum of the earth. Fight your own battles with Israel . Is Iran becoming more of problem than you anticipated ? You and your lapdog cabinet have NEVER been able to figure out the ramifications of your poorly planned actions.
The panic and FTD together really are quite something.

 

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Some reporting (which feels true) says that they didn't have the smartest experts in the room during the decision process. Basically, all the people who would've told Trump that Iran would not surrender if they took out Khamenei, they would attack bases in the gulf (along with US allies), and would work to close the Strait of Hormuz.

I've also read (and this one I think gives me more pause) that Trump allegedly expected his approval rating to jump just like it did for the Bush's back in 1991 and 2003...Like, he thought it would jump to 80%. Now, I've very skeptical about that, but at the same time, I wouldn't necessarily be shocked about that stupidity.
I've read that one too, that they talked him into it saying it would make him popular. Totally believable that he'd thought it would do him a Bush.
This one is good too, that after talking him into the war and telling him that it would be super easy and everyone would love him, Kushner and Witkof are shitting bricks cuz Israel is going down. So they called Iran for a ceasefire and Iran refused to talk to them.

 
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Trump faces coalition of the unwilling on Iran

17/03/2026

President Donald Trump spent his first year back in power disparaging US allies. Now he wants them to help America in the Iran war -- and they are none too enthusiastic.

From tariffs to insults and threatening to invade Greenland, Trump has rarely missed an opportunity in recent months to criticize America's partners.

Yet now the 79-year-old Republican has said he expects the same allies to help reopen the Strait of Hormuz to oil traffic and reacted angrily when they rebuffed him.

"It's an extraordinary demand," said Philip Gordon, the former national security advisor to vice president Kamala Harris and now an academic at the Brookings Institution.

"To justify risking people's lives, not only for that operation, but for a president who has done nothing but insult and berate you for the last 15 months, that's probably a bridge too far," Gordon told AFP.



Trump has warned that the NATO alliance could be at risk if it fails to step up to unblock the strategic waterway, saying other countries get most of their oil supply through it and must contribute.

But while he insisted Monday that "we don't need anybody" to clear the straits, he also thundered that US allies from Europe to Asia owe Washington for giving them decades of protection.
Trump has also hit out at China for failing to help.

'Layers of irony'

In foreign capitals there has been deep skepticism over getting involved in a war Trump did not consult them on, yet which has caused major disruption to their economies.

Their reluctance has been compounded by Trump's repeated tongue-lashings since returning to office.

Trump has slapped tariffs on allies, berated NATO members over their defense spending and support for Ukraine, and unveiled a national security strategy that prioritized boosting pro-Trump parties in Europe.

He has disparaged the contributions of nations whose soldiers fought and died alongside US troops in Iraq and Afghanistan -- and claimed that America won World War II by itself.

And just weeks ago came Trump's threats to invade Greenland, which prompted an unprecedented display of unity behind fellow NATO member Denmark that forced Trump to back down.

"There are several layers of irony," remarked Erwan Lagadec of George Washington University's Elliott School of International Affairs.

Lagadec said the United States had "launched a war without consulting allies, expecting them to mop up the mess, and that's not going fly."

NATO would also unlikely be in a position, or achieve consensus, to launch any major mission in the Strait of Hormuz, Lagadec added.

'Bullying and blackmail'

Before the invasion of Iraq in 2003, then-president George W. Bush spent months building up what he called a "coalition of the willing" of more than 40 countries to back the United States.

But Trump, whose criticism of the Iraq war and other US quagmires was a centerpiece of his "America First" policy, failed to construct any similar alliance for a war he believed would be over soon.

European nations already struggling to deal with Ukraine and their own economies have very practical concerns about getting involved now in Iran, said Liana Fix of the Council on Foreign Relations.

"It is not payback, but just very real constraints and policy trade-offs," Fix told AFP.

But while US allies will still be wary of irking Trump over Hormuz, they may also choose to show that they can no longer be pushed around.

"If they do go along with him, his experience will be that bullying and blackmail work. That's been his experience for the whole first year, and then Greenland put a stop to it," said Gordon, who was also a special assistant to president Barack Obama.

"Now the chickens are coming home to roost."

 

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I urge all nations to send destroyers up Trump's arse. Kill the orange menace before he starts WWIII.
 
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Trump 2025: I want Greenland and Canada, and I will impose 500% tariffs on all NATO Countries.

Trump losing the Iran war: "I need your help, guys."
 
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Trump gives Putin’s Russia a pass on assisting Iran during U.S. war

The president has publicly excused an adversary for helping a different adversary target U.S. troops and assets during the war.

Mar 16, 2026


It’s been about nine days since multiple news organizations, including MS NOW, reported that Russia provided Iran with information that could help it strike American targets. One U.S. official told MS NOW point-blank, “Russia is providing intelligence help to Iran.”


There’s no longer any real doubt about whether the reporting is accurate. Iranian officials have publicly confirmed Russia’s “military cooperation,” U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Mike Waltz acknowledged Russia’s wartime “strategic partnership” with Iran and Democratic Sen. Adam Schiff of California, a former chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, said in a matter-of-fact sort of way that Russia “is providing intelligence to Iran to better attack and kill American troops.”

The question is less about whether Russia has assisted Iran and more about what Donald Trump intends to do about it.


The initial reaction from the American president and his team was to express total indifference, despite the severity of the allegations. This was soon followed by news out of the White House that the Republican administration agreed effectively to reward Vladimir Putin’s regime by temporarily easing oil sanctions on the country — twice.


For good measure, let’s not overlook the frequency with which top members of Team Trump have publicly vouched for Russia’s trustworthiness and echoed Kremlin talking points in recent days.

But in case this weren’t quite ridiculous enough, Trump has continued to find new ways to make the problem worse. In his latest interview with Fox News’ Brian Kilmeade, for example, the president conceded that he believes Russia “might be” assisting Iran, but said Putin’s regime deserves a pass because the United States has assisted Ukraine.

“You know, it’s like, hey, they do it and we do it, in all fairness,” Trump said. “They do it and we do it.”

Over the weekend, he went further, telling the Financial Times, “You could also make the case that we helped Ukraine to an extent. It’s hard to say, ‘You’re targeting us, but we’ve been helping Ukraine.’”

Just so we’re clear, the incumbent American president, during a war, is both echoing Putin’s talking points for him and excusing an adversary for helping a different adversary target American troops and assets.

If there’s a precedent for anything like this, I’m not aware of it. Trump is no doubt aware of concerns that he has been compromised by Moscow, and he’s not exactly going out of his way to temper those fears.

As for the White House’s decision to offer Russia sanctions relief while it helps Iran target Americans, the move hasn’t just drawn criticisms from Capitol Hill, including from Democrats and some Republicans, but it also has generated pushback from some of the same countries in the region that Trump has “demanded” help from.

The Wall Street Journal reported last week that Putin “can barely conceal a smirk” as the war in Iran continues. There’s little question as to why.

 

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The PRC is so helpful sending ships to protect Taiwan while the US 7th Fleet deploys to the Strait of Hormuz.

Village Person Jesse Watters should mud wrestle Gianni Infantino for the right to suck The King of King's cock.


Conan told a joke about freedom of speech, it does not exist in North Korea and CBS.
 
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At this point, the allies don't believe that Trump will competently manage the war and believe it will be a shitshow disaster. So they are staying clear.
Yup, plus he constantly shits on them with tariffs and lies about them not being there, then expects them to come running when he didn't even consult them before launching a war.
 

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At this point, the allies don't believe that Trump will competently manage the war and believe it will be a shitshow disaster. So they are staying clear.
Trump is like the bully who picked a fight with the weird kid who was a little smaller. Except the kid new karate and kept making the bully look like a asshole. So, the bully is now calling on all his friends to help curb stop the kid, except they don't want to be stained by that shit show...

This would be hilarious if it wasn't so tragic. I mean, I don't think anyone has any sadness in the death of Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, nor the other senior leaders of their military. But, all those civilian deaths and the deaths of US service men just because these idiots wanted to rush into a war with no clear goals or exit strategy. I do not blame any ally for ignoring this bullshit. Trump and Bibi bumbled into this, and Iran will not surrender. I honestly don't know what they were smoking to think they could just take out the Supreme Leader and everyone left would just fall in line. Or that they wouldn't close up the Strait of Hormuz. It is idiocy on a scale that would make George Bush Jr. blush.

Oddly enough, I haven't even seen many of Trump's fart catchers on this board try to defend it.
 
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Yup, plus he constantly shits on them with tariffs and lies about them not being there, then expects them to come running when he didn't even consult them before launching a war.
trump's coalition is america and Israel.
Only Israel won't send their own troops or even their navy into the Hormuz.

The rest of the world is against them now.

Hey, remember when you said oil prices were going down?
Now Putin and Iran are making bank.


 
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