It Is Treason for Trump and Congress To Fund Israel and Make War on Iranians

dtm1973 · Mar 16, 2026

listen - isreal was formed and the arabs got pissed
they attacked isreal and got defeated. Egypt and Jordan smartened up and iran and palestine didnt learn
They attacked isreal either directly or thru palestine, so isreal attacks them
Then palestine killed 1500 jews and they had enough so isreal turned palestine into rubble
The iranians run around for decades saying they will wipe isreal off the face of the earth and send missiles.
Now jews and trump have had enough.

Yes trump needed permission and didnt get it
But the destruction of palestine and hammering of iran is justified

Frankfooter · Mar 16, 2026

dtm1973 said:
listen - isreal was formed and the arabs got pissed

Of course they were pissed when the Brits gave half of Palestine away to foreign colonizers after the Brits promised to return all of Palestine in exchange for backing the UK in WWII.

The same way Iran is pissed that they have had 40 years of sanctions and threats and then were attacked twice.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2033490432722600030

dtm1973 · Mar 16, 2026

it all goes away when you start building nukes and screaming you are gonna obliterate a nation. you become a serious threat and sometimes you get beaten. palestine only provided bases in ww2 - and because it was under the british authority. they split the land for the palestinians and jews, and they didnt like it so they attacked the jews who beat them and stole some of their land. they repeated that a few times with the same result.

they want something that aint theirs, and then hamas killed a bunch of jews and wondered what would happen???? i dont like the genocide but if mice are shitting all over your house, you finally will get fed up and kill them.

southpaw · Mar 16, 2026

JohnLarue said:
and you do not agree with the second sentence of the statement
you made that crystal clear

Yes, i do not agree with the second sentence. I made that crystal clear. But we agree on the first sentence, right?

USA/ Canada/ .........etc. ""can do whatever they want, with their own money.""

bggolfingmaniac · Mar 16, 2026

Frankfooter said:
Of course they were pissed when the Brits gave half of Palestine away to foreign colonizers after the Brits promised to return all of Palestine in exchange for backing the UK in WWII.

The same way Iran is pissed that they have had 40 years of sanctions and threats and then were attacked twice.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2033490432722600030

You need a history refresher on what happened 1922-1948. You are so factually incorrect my CPU almost exploded - I'm working for much of today but will respond later to this, because it deserves a rebuttal.

JohnLarue · Mar 16, 2026

southpaw said:
Yes, i do not agree with the second sentence. I made that crystal clear. But we agree on the first sentence, right?

your logic is flawed

you can not agree Canada and the USA amongst others can do what ever they want with their money if you are insisting they can not support Israel with their money

supporting Israel with their money is definitely covered by "" can do what ever they want with their money ''

JohnLarue · Mar 16, 2026

dtm1973 said:
it all goes away when you start building nukes and screaming you are gonna obliterate a nation.

this is the problem that the nutjob sympathizers ignore

southpaw · Mar 16, 2026

JohnLarue said:
supporting Israel with their money is definitely covered by "" can do what ever they want with their money ''

Absolutely it is. And if they change their minds, thats their choice too. Choice is a great thing.

These endless wars for Israel that spend their blood and treasure are nudging them in that direction. If they weren't, you wouldn't be arguing with me.

JohnLarue · Mar 16, 2026

oil&gas said:
I was typing my response with comments from another post on me
wanting Palestine's oil and gas in mind.

????
That is a confusing combination of words
??

Re : Palestine's oil and gas
Had it not been for irrational. multi generational, inbred hatred and extreme religious intolerance Palestine could have been a prosperous civilized place, a great place for their children to grow up in
instead it is a hell hole

Sending humanitarian aid to conflict zones is always fine with me.

it should be,
until Hamas steals the aid materials for themselves
Are you fine with that?

I certainly don't want to waste money on military aid to arm the Palestinians.

Well that should be obvious, that is illegal
The only ones doing that are Iran and those willing to break Anti-terroism, anti- money laundering laws

And I definitely won't want our leaders to send troops to the Middle East to die for them.

you are confused, no one will send troops to die for a terrorist group

Hopefully no troops will be required to prevent Iran from aquiring nuclaer waepons
but that will depend on Iran's irrational hate filled religious nutjobs leaders

JohnLarue · Mar 16, 2026

southpaw said:
Absolutely it is.

No
""whatever they want"" is all encompassing

they can do ""whatever they want"" ...........except what southpaw does not agree with ??
Yeah that does not pass the logic smell test

And if they change their minds, thats their choice too. Choice is a great thing.

""whatever they want"" includes changing their mind. that is self evident

your problem is they are committed to preventing Iran from acquiring nukes are are not going to change their minds

AI Overview

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Canada's long-standing official position is that the Islamic Republic of Iran must never be allowed to acquire or develop nuclear weapons. Canada views Iran's nuclear proliferation activities as a serious threat to regional and international security, frequently identifying the regime as a primary source of instability in the Middle East.

do you need a refresher on what 'never" means?

who exactly did you have in mind to stand up in Parliament and demand that Iran must be allowed to acquire Nuclear weapons so that it can exterminate our Ally Israel?

These endless wars for Israel that spend their blood and treasure are nudging them in that direction.

No, the Islamic Republic of Iran must never be allowed to acquire or develop nuclear weapons.
This is crystal clear

If they weren't, you wouldn't be arguing with me.

Sure I would
No sane person wants to see religious nutjobs acquire nuclear weapons

bggolfingmaniac · Mar 16, 2026

Frankfooter said:
Of course they were pissed when the Brits gave half of Palestine away to foreign colonizers after the Brits promised to return all of Palestine in exchange for backing the UK in WWII.

The same way Iran is pissed that they have had 40 years of sanctions and threats and then were attacked twice.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2033490432722600030

Let's dive in and officially waste my time - I hate it when I see such trash concluded as 'accurate history.'

For starters....Secretary Churchill severed nearly 80% of Palestine and created Transjordan, which was completely closed to Jewish immigration. They went against their own mandate (Article 6) and placed restrictions on any Jewish land purchase. By 1949, the Brits had allotted 87,500 acres of the cultivable land to Arabs and only 4,250 acres to Jews. (source: Palestine Royal Commission Report - also the Peel Report, Page 300)

in 1939, The Brits gave in to Arab demands - announced a 1939 White Paper that an independent Arab state was to be created within 10 years and that Jewish immigration was to be limited to 75K for the next 5 years. Arab immigration was unrestricted during that Mandatory Period, It also forbade land sales to Jews in 95% of the territory of Palestine. It was the Arabs that rejected that proposal.

Here is the biggest of those myths to be busted - The Brits kept Palestine closed during WW2, preventing hundreds of thousands of Jews to seek refuge there. After the war, they still refused to allow displaced Jews to immigrate there. From the end of WW2 (Aug 1945) and the establishment of the Jewish state in 1948, 65 illegal immigrant ships carrying nearly 70K people arrived in Palestine. The Brits? They interned those caught to internment camps in Cyprus. When Israel declared independence, 28K of those detained were STILL detained post-declaration. (Sources: Aharon Cohen "Israel and the Arab World pg 174, Howard Sachar - A History of Israel: The Rise of Zionism to our Time)

Did the Jews steal land during 1922-47? Let's break that myth too. In 1947, Jewish holdings in Palestine amounted to approx 463,000 acres. 45K of those acres were acquired from the Brit Mandatory government, 30K from churches while the vast majority of that land was purchased from Arabs. Many members of the Arab nationalist movement, including members of the Muslim Supreme Council, sold land to Jews. (Source: Arieh Avneri "The Claim of Dispossession")

The Partition of Palestine - The UN took over for the Brits, who clearly made a mess. It was the Czechs who first took issue with the Arab stance, and a group of 7 UN nations and their delegates recommended a 2 state solution, joined by economic union. 3 countries (India, Iran and Yugoslavia) recommended a single state with Arab and Jewish provinces. The Jews and Arabs were both not happy - the Jews were willing to accept this or any other reasonable compromise, it was the Arabs who rejected all proposals/recommendations. The UN rejected the Arab demand and voted 33-13 for the 2 state proposal. (available off UN website history)

Much more to follow, if interested only.

oil&gas · Mar 16, 2026

Not to disagree with your interpretation of the conflict between Israel
and Palestine. I am just of the view it is better for the west to mind their
own business.

JohnLarue said:
Had it not been for irrational. multi generational, inbred hatred and extreme religious intolerance Palestine could have been a prosperous civilized place, a great place for their children to grow up in
instead it is a hell hole

it should be,
until Hamas steals the aid materials for themselves
Are you fine with that?

JohnLarue · Mar 16, 2026

oil&gas said:
Not to disagree with your interpretation of the conflict between Israel
and Palestine.

your interpretation of the conflict ??

These are the facts of the matter
Irrational hate fill religious nut jobs must never be allowed to obtain or develop nuclear weapons.

I am just of the view it is better for the west to mind their own business.

well that is just not going to happen
Iran has injected itself and the risk of nuclear war into the equation

AI Overview

Canada has a long-standing, clear, and consistent official position that the Islamic Republic of Iran
must never be allowed to obtain or develop nuclear weapons. The Canadian government views Iran's nuclear program as a significant threat to regional and international security, frequently citing Iran as a primary source of instability in the Middle East

Irrational hate fill religious nut jobs have sadly made your view an unrealistic view
remove them from the equation and you might see some positive progress... some positive hope for Palestine

oil&gas · Mar 16, 2026

JohnLarue said:
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Hopefully no troops will be required to prevent Iran from aquiring nuclaer waepons
but that will depend on Iran's irrational hate filled religious nutjobs leaders

Other than Israel's troops the only troops required to invade Iran to prevent it
from acquiring nukes would be Israel's American fighting dogs. And Israel's
poodle Donald Trump has to be the one in charge to put those dogs at his
master's disposal.

Your fear-mongering of Iran's threat to the world may not have as
much impact on the majority of the world outside the U.S. as Israel
wants. Europe has already expressed disinterest on Trump's call to
join his coalition to fight for Israel.

JohnLarue · Mar 16, 2026

bggolfingmaniac said:
Let's dive in and officially waste my time - I hate it when I see such trash concluded as 'accurate history.'

For starters....Secretary Churchill severed nearly 80% of Palestine and created Transjordan, which was completely closed to Jewish immigration. They went against their own mandate (Article 6) and placed restrictions on any Jewish land purchase. By 1949, the Brits had allotted 87,500 acres of the cultivable land to Arabs and only 4,250 acres to Jews. (source: Palestine Royal Commission Report - also the Peel Report, Page 300)

in 1939, The Brits gave in to Arab demands - announced a 1939 White Paper that an independent Arab state was to be created within 10 years and that Jewish immigration was to be limited to 75K for the next 5 years. Arab immigration was unrestricted during that Mandatory Period, It also forbade land sales to Jews in 95% of the territory of Palestine. It was the Arabs that rejected that proposal.

Here is the biggest of those myths to be busted - The Brits kept Palestine closed during WW2, preventing hundreds of thousands of Jews to seek refuge there. After the war, they still refused to allow displaced Jews to immigrate there. From the end of WW2 (Aug 1945) and the establishment of the Jewish state in 1948, 65 illegal immigrant ships carrying nearly 70K people arrived in Palestine. The Brits? They interned those caught to internment camps in Cyprus. When Israel declared independence, 28K of those detained were STILL detained post-declaration. (Sources: Aharon Cohen "Israel and the Arab World pg 174, Howard Sachar - A History of Israel: The Rise of Zionism to our Time)

Did the Jews steal land during 1922-47? Let's break that myth too. In 1947, Jewish holdings in Palestine amounted to approx 463,000 acres. 45K of those acres were acquired from the Brit Mandatory government, 30K from churches while the vast majority of that land was purchased from Arabs. Many members of the Arab nationalist movement, including members of the Muslim Supreme Council, sold land to Jews. (Source: Arieh Avneri "The Claim of Dispossession")

The Partition of Palestine - The UN took over for the Brits, who clearly made a mess. It was the Czechs who first took issue with the Arab stance, and a group of 7 UN nations and their delegates recommended a 2 state solution, joined by economic union. 3 countries (India, Iran and Yugoslavia) recommended a single state with Arab and Jewish provinces. The Jews and Arabs were both not happy - the Jews were willing to accept this or any other reasonable compromise, it was the Arabs who rejected all proposals/recommendations. The UN rejected the Arab demand and voted 33-13 for the 2 state proposal. (available off UN website history)

Much more to follow, if interested only.

An excellent summary
very precise, very detailed, very accurate facts of the matter

Sadly you will never convince Frankfooter
facts and logic are irrelevant to him

You can spend hours/ days/ weeks ...... showing him to be wrong and a fool, however he will just recycle his misinformation and pretend your facts do not exist
Many have him on ignore for a reason and I sense you value your time

There have been so many offers of peace to the Palestinians and they reject all of them
How many offers of peace have been made to Israel by the Palestinians? None

the Palestinians do not want peace and will acpect nothing less than the extermination of Israel
This is both absurd and unbelievably evil and leaves Israel with but two options

be exterminated or
take out the nutjobs seeking to exterminate them

Painting Israel into a corner like that and rejecting any and all offers of peace just does not align with the victimhood narrative the misinformed irrational loonie left are projecting

JohnLarue · Mar 16, 2026

oil&gas said:
Other than Israel's troops the only troops required to invade Iran to prevent it
from acquiring nukes would be Israel's American fighting dogs. And Israel's
poodle Donald Trump has to be the one in charge to put those dogs at his
master's disposal.

you were doing so well and then you slide back into irrational hate driven nonsense
did you skip taking your meds?

Your fear-mongering of Iran's threat to the world may not have as
much impact on the majority of the world outside the U.S. as Israel
wants. Europe has already expressed disinterest on Trump's call to
join his coalition to fight for Israel.

Oh Boy "Fear Mongering" accusations combined with irrational hate driven nonsense

You are a fool if you think you can ignore the threat of nuclear war in the middle east

Europe likely prefers not to escalate the conflict , but do not mistake that for an abandonment of support for Israel vs the nutjobs

Who knows , the Iranian nutjobs might come to realize how precarious their position is , but I doubt it

Frankfooter · Mar 16, 2026

dtm1973 said:
it all goes away when you start building nukes and screaming you are gonna obliterate a nation. you become a serious threat and sometimes you get beaten. palestine only provided bases in ww2 - and because it was under the british authority. they split the land for the palestinians and jews, and they didnt like it so they attacked the jews who beat them and stole some of their land. they repeated that a few times with the same result.

they want something that aint theirs, and then hamas killed a bunch of jews and wondered what would happen???? i dont like the genocide but if mice are shitting all over your house, you finally will get fed up and kill them.

You're talking about Israel, right?
Iran never built nukes and signed the NPT.
Israel stole nukes from america and has threatened the world.

These are the terrorists.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2033560861605040292

Frankfooter · Mar 16, 2026

bggolfingmaniac said:
You need a history refresher on what happened 1922-1948. You are so factually incorrect my CPU almost exploded - I'm working for much of today but will respond later to this, because it deserves a rebuttal.

I'm sure you're going to post some history that lists Jewish deaths and ignores Palestinians killed.
Same way you ignore the genocide, 800,000 refugees in Lebanon and about a million in Iran.

But go to it, post how Israel was founded on terrorism and land theft.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2033690403275149432

Frankfooter · Mar 16, 2026

JohnLarue said:
An excellent summary
very precise, very detailed, very accurate facts of the matter

Sadly you will never convince Frankfooter
facts and logic are irrelevant to him

You can spend hours/ days/ weeks ...... showing him to be wrong and a fool, however he will just recycle his misinformation and pretend your facts do not exist
Many have him on ignore for a reason and I sense you value your time

There have been so many offers of peace to the Palestinians and they reject all of them
How many offers of peace have been made to Israel by the Palestinians? None

the Palestinians do not want peace and will acpect nothing less than the extermination of Israel
This is both absurd and unbelievably evil and leaves Israel with but two options

be exterminated or

take out the nutjobs seeking to exterminate them

Painting Israel into a corner like that and rejecting any and all offers of peace just does not align with the victimhood narrative the misinformed irrational loonie left are projecting

Cool story, buddy, but full of shit.
Ending the occupation is the decision of the occupier unless the resistance can overthrow it.

The question is why you back genocide, rape, torture and land theft?
Is it just your racism, or do you get off on genocide?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2033586240969224255

Frankfooter · Mar 16, 2026

bggolfingmaniac said:
Let's dive in and officially waste my time - I hate it when I see such trash concluded as 'accurate history.'

For starters....Secretary Churchill severed nearly 80% of Palestine and created Transjordan, which was completely closed to Jewish immigration. They went against their own mandate (Article 6) and placed restrictions on any Jewish land purchase. By 1949, the Brits had allotted 87,500 acres of the cultivable land to Arabs and only 4,250 acres to Jews. (source: Palestine Royal Commission Report - also the Peel Report, Page 300)

in 1939, The Brits gave in to Arab demands - announced a 1939 White Paper that an independent Arab state was to be created within 10 years and that Jewish immigration was to be limited to 75K for the next 5 years. Arab immigration was unrestricted during that Mandatory Period, It also forbade land sales to Jews in 95% of the territory of Palestine. It was the Arabs that rejected that proposal.

Here is the biggest of those myths to be busted - The Brits kept Palestine closed during WW2, preventing hundreds of thousands of Jews to seek refuge there. After the war, they still refused to allow displaced Jews to immigrate there. From the end of WW2 (Aug 1945) and the establishment of the Jewish state in 1948, 65 illegal immigrant ships carrying nearly 70K people arrived in Palestine. The Brits? They interned those caught to internment camps in Cyprus. When Israel declared independence, 28K of those detained were STILL detained post-declaration. (Sources: Aharon Cohen "Israel and the Arab World pg 174, Howard Sachar - A History of Israel: The Rise of Zionism to our Time)

Did the Jews steal land during 1922-47? Let's break that myth too. In 1947, Jewish holdings in Palestine amounted to approx 463,000 acres. 45K of those acres were acquired from the Brit Mandatory government, 30K from churches while the vast majority of that land was purchased from Arabs. Many members of the Arab nationalist movement, including members of the Muslim Supreme Council, sold land to Jews. (Source: Arieh Avneri "The Claim of Dispossession")

The Partition of Palestine - The UN took over for the Brits, who clearly made a mess. It was the Czechs who first took issue with the Arab stance, and a group of 7 UN nations and their delegates recommended a 2 state solution, joined by economic union. 3 countries (India, Iran and Yugoslavia) recommended a single state with Arab and Jewish provinces. The Jews and Arabs were both not happy - the Jews were willing to accept this or any other reasonable compromise, it was the Arabs who rejected all proposals/recommendations. The UN rejected the Arab demand and voted 33-13 for the 2 state proposal. (available off UN website history)

Much more to follow, if interested only.

The population of Palestine was only 7% Jewish at the time.
Even giving them only 80% of their land was a concession.

1948:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2027336417399963850

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