War with Iran

Frankfooter

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I do agree with this! Israel was able to manipulate the poor braindead clown now in office.

I don't, however, believe they are desperate. They got what they wanted. Even if Trump TACOS, Iran has been weakened enough for Israel to go at them on their own. Add in, while Hormus is in play, Trump really can't find an off-ramp without fixing the problem.
This will be the end of zionism and the american empire.
trump lost all allies by bombing a girls school during negotiations to start a war.
Israel is hated by the world.

This is what Israel wanted?

 
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Butler1000

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I do agree with this! Israel was able to manipulate the poor braindead clown now in office.

I don't, however, believe they are desperate. They got what they wanted. Even if Trump TACOS, Iran has been weakened enough for Israel to go at them on their own. Add in, while Hormus is in play, Trump really can't find an off-ramp without fixing the problem.
Perhaps short term. But I wonder about the long term. I think Israel support going to become problematic in the future for political figures.
 
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Perhaps short term. But I wonder about the long term. I think Israel support going to become problematic in the future for political figures.
Yes, this is true. Democratic Presidents will be very leery if Bibi's radical right government were to win again in October, but I suspect they will get decimated just like the Republicans in the midterms.
 

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Frankfooter

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With Iran be destablized and the Republicans getting lambasted in the midterms.
Except that all of Iran is now against america, where before they thought they might help, now they are hated.
Iranians are rallying around their government, as people do when they are attacked.


Not so for america and Israel, who see that they chose to attack and its not going well.
Iran has 10x the population and 1/2 of Israel are Palestinian who have watched their people suffer for 78 years.



 
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Frankfooter

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Oil prices are mainly up because of the vessels not wanting to cross the Strait. Israel isn't going against the US and purposely blowing up oil refineries, at least not yet. You're sounding like a idealog who pushes bullshit narratives.
Iran is choosing what shipping gets through now.
Israel just blew up oil infrastructure in Iran and has committed false flag attacks against Oman and Saudi Arabia.

Now trump is saying he doesn't care about Hormuz and its only a problem for those who directly need to use it.


Check it yourself.

 

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Hypocrisy at its finest, the axis of chaos say that they can kill the Iranian leaders but Iran has no such right 🤔
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Except that all of Iran is now against america, where before they thought they might help, now they are hated.
Iranians are rallying around their government, as people do when they are attacked.


Not so for america and Israel, who see that they chose to attack and its not going well.
Iran has 10x the population and 1/2 of Israel are Palestinian who have watched their people suffer for 78 years.
The war is apparently quite popular in Israel…it enjoys a 93% approval rate.

 
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Frankfooter

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The war is apparently quite popular in Israel…it enjoys a 93% approval rate.

That poll was taken 'earlier this month' in a two week old war.

Not sure if they feel the same way after this week.
The missiles are almost constant now that the defences are gone.



 
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