Chinese Cars
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I really dunno how you could not prefer an electric power train to primitive gas engine.
Its better is every respect, response, efficiency, vibration, noise. Also you don't get that stench of fuel when you start the car cold and back out the driveway.I'm far more worried about the battery dying than the engine but again at the end of the day my needs for a vehicle basically require a gas engine. There is never going to be a situation where they install EV chargers at the end of a defunct logging road in the middle of the bush
I don't deny the practical utility of EVs, especially for people who tend to stay within urban areas. For myself personally, I spend way too much time out in the middle of nowhere for it to be something I can ever consider. Especially with those tiny Chinese EVs as there's no way in hell those things are towing a trailer and boat or hauling a quartered out moose that weighs nearly a thousand pounds, much less handle the roads I drive down.
The battery for EVs is still their weakness in my eyes, as people simply are not going to religiously keep their EVs charged at the rates you describe. Those bitches are going to be at 100% all the time and those batteries are going to die well before they really should. At the end of the day there needs to be a shift away from lithium ion to some other more robust battery technology but I'll be damned if I can find one on the horizon that has the potential to do that. All the ones I've heard of have major problems where cost and mass production are concerned.
I like the vibration, noise and feel of a gasoline vehicle.I really dunno how you could not prefer an electric power train to primitive gas engine.
EVs feel like a computer lol.
Just cuz Tesla is a piece of crap doesn't mean all EV are. The Chinese took EV to a whole new level.
Thats just energy going to waste. I have one of both, the EV has a back up engine. When I use it I am like WTF is that racket.
They might when they electrify logging trucks. Hauling diesel costs a ton of money.
That's a lot of what ifs lol.
What tempts me on the Chinese EV is the tech, especially the L4 autonomous driving.
What has been proven is that maintenance on an EV compared to an ICE is minimal. Not to mention the cost of charging up compared to gas.
What has deterred me? Charge time and the costs but with the new solid state and other batteries, the Chinese have broken the 5 mins charge time and the Cost of Chinese EVs is well worth it.
The Li ion batteries are prone to fire hazard and that's scary but with solid state batteries that risk goes away, and the type of composition in the new EV are less prone to fire hazards.
What's expensive are repairs due to an accident. With regards to safety, exiting an EV can be done manually, it's just that owners never bother to learn how.
Yes well I'm not about to hold my breath on that one at least until there is a monumental improvement in the underlying technology. I would bank on it ending badly for anyone who attempts it today
I'll wait for a car with solar panels on it, like this Hyundai.
Or this.....
Or this.....
Since 2024, China's fire department reported an average of six to eight electric car fires daily nationwide. Good luck!
Canada and American cannot even make a toaster anymore let alone an EV . Once Trump fizzles out, along with his MAGA hoax, Canada will be flooded with Chinese EVs. At present, Japan is luke warm to EV manufacturing and still continues to pumps out ICEs and to a lesser effect, hybrids but might necessarily have to re-evaluate due to fuel strangulation from the straight of Hormuz reality.
In the future, Canada will be necessarily dependant on China for EV autos with their part, mechanics et al., as we are already dependent on China for many things. American has more or less decouple itself from Canada with respect to their foreign branch plants underwritten by the Canadian taxpayer in Ontario.
In the future, Canada will be necessarily dependant on China for EV autos with their part, mechanics et al., as we are already dependent on China for many things. American has more or less decouple itself from Canada with respect to their foreign branch plants underwritten by the Canadian taxpayer in Ontario.
Teslas are getting pretty good range even at 300k km, some of them fail but its not uncommon for an ice car to have a shot engine at 300k km
Another bunch of made up lies from MAGA LOL here are the facts.
Tesla: Ranks among the top five for fire reports in China, often involving Model 3 and Model S.
Safety Trend: Data suggests Tesla's fire rate in China has improved since transitioning to Lithium Iron Phosphate (LFP) batteries supplied by BYD and CATL, which are more stable than ternary NCM batteries.
Current Trend (2024-2025): While specific 2024 daily averages are less transparent, China Central Television (CCTV) reported in late 2024 that the NEV fire rate dropped from 1.85 per 10,000 vehicles in 2021 to 0.96 per 10,000 vehicles by the end of 2023.
Comparative Safety: For the first time, reports indicate that the fire risk for NEVs in China (0.96 per 10,000) is now lower than that of internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicles, which sit at approximately 1.5 per 10,000.
Stricter Standards: In April 2025, China's Ministry of Industry and Information Technology (MIIT) introduced a new national standard (GB 38031-2025).
"No Fire" Mandate: Effective July 1, 2026, all new EVs must be designed so that batteries do not catch fire or explode even during thermal runaway or crashes.
Advanced Warning: Current regulations already mandate a five-minute warning for passengers if a battery is at risk of ignition
