Authoritarian governments don’t uphold science.

SchlongConery

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Interesting and enlightening short commentary on how "Authoritarian governments don’t uphold science. They discredit real science and replace it with pseudoscience to justify their ideology and consolidate power."

Look to Persia (present day Iran) as an example. Was one of the leading astrophysics scientific communities in the world. Until religion came into power and discredited the science as it contradicted their theories on creationism.

This FB Short uses pre-Nazi Germany as an example of a country leading in science ... until Hitler's Nazi regime discredited much of it as "Jewish Science" and stripped Jews of their positions, replaced research into the science of evolution with racial superiority etc.

Now, the US, formerly a leader in world public health research, like vaccines, have systematically torn down much of these medical institutions and have appointed a crackpot like Kennedy to head up everything to do with dismantling the medical scientific research institutions as being a big bogeyman of "Big Pharma", former gov't conspiracies to install tracking chips in there cult followers brains....



Please don't post unless you actually watch the 2 minute video. If you don't have the curious mind to bother, then whatever you say is worthless if all you are going to do is use a headline to launch off into your predictable talking points.

Looking forward to a considered discussion and good argumentation!
 

southpaw

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Please don't post unless you actually watch the 2 minute video.
I watched the video. I agree with her comments and yours, except one. Its not just authoritarian governments.

In Canada, we have anti-vaxxers and anti-climate change on the right. We have anti-sex and anti-heredity on the left.

Everyone is pushing the agenda that fits with their beliefs. Real science should not be politicized by the right or the left.
 
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Frankfooter

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Interesting and enlightening short commentary on how "Authoritarian governments don’t uphold science. They discredit real science and replace it with pseudoscience to justify their ideology and consolidate power."

Look to Persia (present day Iran) as an example. Was one of the leading astrophysics scientific communities in the world. Until religion came into power and discredited the science as it contradicted their theories on creationism.

This FB Short uses pre-Nazi Germany as an example of a country leading in science ... until Hitler's Nazi regime discredited much of it as "Jewish Science" and stripped Jews of their positions, replaced research into the science of evolution with racial superiority etc.

Now, the US, formerly a leader in world public health research, like vaccines, have systematically torn down much of these medical institutions and have appointed a crackpot like Kennedy to head up everything to do with dismantling the medical scientific research institutions as being a big bogeyman of "Big Pharma", former gov't conspiracies to install tracking chips in there cult followers brains....



Please don't post unless you actually watch the 2 minute video. If you don't have the curious mind to bother, then whatever you say is worthless if all you are going to do is use a headline to launch off into your predictable talking points.

Looking forward to a considered discussion and good argumentation!
I'd say that argue is fallacious, schlong.

If you were arguing populist and right wing governments vs social democracies that would be a better debate. But given this is framed around america and Iran lets check the stats. American literacy rates are really low, with 54% reading below a grade 6 level. Iran is highly educated and 70% of those in universities in the sciences are women right now. The US is now anti-vaxxer and has shut down a large portion of their research, with scientists fleeing the country.

We are seeing that play out in this war, where americans also think that Iranians are stone age peasants instead of sitting on a 6,000 year old culture. Iran has their own satellites and in this war we are really seeing a smart, long term game being played by Iran that has left trump and Netanyahu (if still alive) bombing hospitals and schools because they want to terrorize the population into revolting and because they don't know where the missile defences are hidden. That a smaller country under sanctions for the last 40 years has outsmarted the 'best military in the world' is really something.



 
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