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southpaw said:
I want to prevent the next Osama Bin Laden. He was funded by the US to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan.
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cutting Israel off would ensure a blood bath in the middle east
if Israel's existence was really threatened, they would use their nuclear weapons

More recently, the US created ISIS first by destabilizing Iraq, and then by funding groups fighting Assad in Syria.
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cutting Israel off, wont change the root cause of the middle easts problems , inbred hatred and fanatical religious intolerance

This has also happened with Iran. The 1953 CIA-sponsored coup led to the 1979 Islamic revolution. Now you want to do it again?
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As opposed to allowing hate filled religious fanatics to acquire nuclear weapons.... In a heartbeat
and if needed do it again after that
sadly there is really only one solution to hate filled religious fanatics who want to exterminated a sovereign state and are seeking nuclear weapons to carry out their evil objective
They gotta go


Stay in your lane. Mind your own business. Get your own house in order. Israel is not worth the trouble.
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Being naive will not protect you
You have no idea how nuclear war will make your world a living hell
 
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JohnLarue said:
cutting Israel off would ensure a blood bath in the middle east
if Israel's existence was really threatened, they would use their nuclear weapons
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Oh I see. Israel has nukes. Iran doesn't. But if Iran gets nukes, then Israel will nuke Iran. To prevent Israel from nuking Iran, we must bomb Iran. And then let Israel keep their nukes, which they wont use, because we bombed Iran. But Iran would use the nukes that they dont have, which is why we bombed them.

Johnny, you're starting to bore me with your mental gymnastics. Lets agree to disagree.
 
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Oh I see. Israel has nukes. Iran doesn't. But if Iran gets nukes, then Israel will nuke Iran. To prevent Israel from nuking Iran, we must bomb Iran. And then let Israel keep their nukes, which they wont use, because we bombed Iran. But Iran would use the nukes that they dont have, which is why we bombed them.
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it is not my fault you fail to grasp the reality of a messed up and very dangerous middle east
Israel has nukes. That is the reality
Iran and all its terrorist groups want to see Israel exterminated. That is the reality
Allowing Iran to acquire nuclear weapons will cause a nuclear war. That is the reality
Iran must not be permitted to acquire nuclear weapons. That is the reality

Johnny, you're starting to bore me with your mental gymnastics.
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it is not my fault you fail to grasp the reality of a messed up and very dangerous middle east
it s not my fault you tried to stake out a misrepresentation of your position and that strategy failed

your boredom is completely irrelevant to me or anyone else for that matter
get a hobby or book a hooker if you want some excitement


Lets agree to disagree.
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Sure, just as soon as you agree to stop pretending you do not care about either Israel or Iran
if that were true, you would not be bothered to post in threads about either
yet here you are

run away if you must
But I am unable to agree with misrepresentation
 
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the palestinians have always taken first place as terrorists infact they never dissapoint since theyve came to usa they blew up two towers and used cars as weapons.
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If that is the case the best response from the U.S. is not to fund the
Palestinians' terrorist atrocities. No free aid and weapons. And never
put your troops in harm's way to sacrifice their lives for the terrorists.
 
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Fine, you win. I care deeply about the Zionist state of Israel and the Islamic Republic of Iran. Now what?
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You have to deeply care about Israel as an informed citizen in
the west. Pretty much all the crisis rooted in the presence of
the U.S. in the Mideast which also affected you had something
to do with Israel. Arab oil embargo, Americans' sacrifice to the
invasion of Iraq and 9/11 are just some of the rewards for the
U.S.'s meddling into the Middle East. Now Donald Trump wants the
world to join his campaign to do the fighting and dying for Israel
in the Strait of Hormuz. It is time for the world to wake up to
the biggest political scam in the last 8 decades that is Israel.
 
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southpaw said:
Fine, you win. I care deeply about the Zionist state of Israel and the Islamic Republic of Iran. Now what?
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now that you have stopped pretending, you can apply intelligent judgement and figure out why Iran
  1. must be prevented from acquiring nuclear weapons and
  2. needs to stop funding terrorists
  3. needs to become a civilized nation - preferably a civilized democratic nation
after all, for the Iranian people " Israel is not worth the trouble. "
 
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oil&gas said:
You have to deeply care about Israel as an informed citizen in
the west. Pretty much all the crisis rooted in the presence of
the U.S. in the Mideast which also affected you had something
to do with Israel. Arab oil embargo, Americans' sacrifice to the
invasion of Iraq and 9/11 are just some of the rewards for the
U.S.'s meddling into the Middle East. Now Donald Trump wants the
world to join his campaign to do the fighting and dying for Israel
in the Strait of Hormuz. It is time for the world to wake up to
the biggest political scam in the last 8 decades that is Israel.
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so you are not neutral as previously claimed
that' is not the most biased, hate inspired, antisemitic post ever, but its right up there and confirms your not so neutral position


It is time for the world to wake up to the biggest political scam in the last 8 decades that is Israel.
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can we put you down as undecided ?
 
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so you are not neutral as previously claimed
that' is not the most biased, hate inspired, antisemitic post ever, but its right up there and confirms your not so neutral position



can we put you down as undecided ?
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I am neutral. If the west and the U.S. was as neutral I were
they would have avoided the 1973 oil embargo and the U.S.
surely would not have been hit by the 9/11 attack.
 
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I am neutral. If the west and the U.S. was as neutral I were
they would have avoided the 1973 oil embargo and the U.S.
surely would not have been hit by the 9/11 attack.
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I dont think John accepts neutrality when it comes to Israel. "You're either with us, or you're with the terrorists." Where have we heard this before?
 
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JohnLarue said:
after all, for the Iranian people "Israel is not worth the trouble. "
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This I agree wirh. Iran would be better off focusing on lifting the sanctions instead of destroying Israel.

But thats for the Iranian people to decide. Not us. Its not our job to police the middle east.
 
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This I agree wirh. Iran would be better off focusing on lifting the sanctions instead of destroying Israel.
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Iran must first focus on defending itself from murder and assassination of its
scientists, leaders along with innocent bystanders as well as sneak missile attacks
and bombing from Israel.

But thats for the Iranian people to decide. Not us. Its not our job to police the middle east.
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I am neutral. If the west and the U.S. was as neutral I were
they would have avoided the 1973 oil embargo and the U.S.
surely would not have been hit by the 9/11 attack.
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no you are not neutral

you choose to self justify anything and claim you are neutral, and objective
Iran's henchmen Hamas raid, kidnap, rape and murder innocent young Israeli women and in your "neutral" view its Israel's fault
And Iran should get to acquire Nuclear weapons so they can exterminate Isreal, in your "neutral" view .

It is time for the world to wake up to the biggest political scam in the last 8 decades that is Israel.
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yeah, i am not buying your neutral claim and no other rational person will either.
 
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This I agree wirh. Iran would be better off focusing on lifting the sanctions instead of destroying Israel.
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It is not a choice between options
the objective of exterminating Israel, supporting terrorism has to come to a full stop

the nutjobs running the regime are not going to agree to that

But thats for the Iranian people to decide.
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Iran is currently a totalitarian police state run by religious fanatic nutjobs
The Iranian people currently have no say in the matter
my guess is the Iranian people prefer not to be annihilated in a nuclear war

Not us. Its not our job to police the middle east
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that is not reality
in utopiaville there should be no need for any police
that is not reality, either

as a Canadian citizen this is the reality
Canada's official position is that the Iranian regime must never be allowed to obtain or develop nuclear weapons. The Canadian government views Iran as a principal source of global instability and has consistently called for the complete and verifiable dismantlement of its nuclear program.
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JohnLarue said:
now that you have stopped pretending, you can apply intelligent judgement and figure out why Iran
  1. must be prevented from acquiring nuclear weapons and
  2. needs to stop funding terrorists
  3. needs to become a civilized nation - preferably a civilized democratic nation
after all, for the Iranian people " Israel is not worth the trouble. "
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Buddy, Israel and america have been at war constantly this century.
They both commit far more terrorism and now they are lead by a corrupt child raping moron.

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