Carney majority all but confirmed: Nunavut's NDP MP Crosses floor to Liberals

WyattEarp

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I don't think we've ever seen a person or party not elected into office get blamed for everything as much as we've seen Poilievre and the Conservatives.

Liberals have held all the power for 10 years and counting, but all talk and blame is on Conservatives.

This country is way too stupid.
It's absurd.
Even when Carney talks like a conservative, they have a tin ear.

Carney might govern more from the center or he might just be trying to fool enough people to keep the Liberals in power.
I'm not sure it's clear yet.
 
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You have free will to make your situation better and find Utopia. Monaco is awesome. Spent quite some time there when living in Europe.

No taxes
No crime
Spotless
Great weather all year
Great access for travel

But a decent 500sq ft condo will cost you about $3.5MM Euro.
And only way to get citizenship IIRC is to marry a Monégasques or if the Prince grants you one.

Thought about it when retirement comes but Zurich or Hamburg are larger and more cost efficient.
Interesting.
Don't know much about Hamburg, but Zurich seems expensive.
I think I am a more romance country guy like Spain or Italy.
Americans who have retired to Spain or Italy warn us about the patience required when trying to get things done.
I'm guessing the Swiss and Germans are more efficient.
 

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It's absurd.
Even when Carney talks like a conservative, they have a tin ear.

Carney might govern more from the center or he might just be trying to fool enough people to keep the Liberals in power.
I'm not sure it's clear yet.
I know he is a conservative, a banker, and a private equity guy. A Neo Liberal at its finest. And said that during the election.

However I have chosen to support him, even though I didn't vote for him, because so far he is proving to be the best PM......FOR RIGHT NOW.

We need a known quantity who can get the meetings to get trade deals. Based on his personal reputation. He is that. It can't be denied. He also knows the exact words to use while there, and will have the repution for keeping his word.

I can't think of anything more important right now.
 
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Salty, I'm conducting a wellness check! I noticed Intrisic has vanished, just making sure you're still well and kicking?
Ahhhh typical squeeler. Once again throwing rocks and then putting your hands in your pockets. How can you wonder where I am when I disappeared right after you reported my post? AGAIN. So here's the thing. You reporting me to the mods is literally the greatest compliment you can give me. It's you admitting that you can't handle me by yourself and you're in need of help. I call that a win. Now I know, I know.....'snitches get stitches!'...'I would never!' So what you're going to now claim is that some other good hearted member came across my post and said 'wait,what?'...'hell no!' 'I can't let squeeler be subjected to this kind of treatment, if he isn't going to report this I am.':rolleyes::ROFLMAO: Riiiigghhttt, sure thing. Make all the excuses you want, deflect, avoid, pander. Do what you will. This is the second time you reported me all the while claiming 'I would never' :ROFLMAO: Sooooo sad.:cry: You just can't take it and I find that HILARIOUS!:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

🐀 around the world have been calling me nonstop to check up on you!!!
It doesn't surprise me that you are tied into a global network of rats that you are in constant communication with, I have no doubts that you are they're leader.:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

Anyway Brady, have a nice day and don't forget to Savour Your Morning.;);):ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 

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Why, because then the government can not have to worry over partisan axe grinding on ratifying a good deal.

Honestly I don't think Carney will accept a bad deal. I think he will ride it out until we get a good one, or the Southern management changes. A majority also gives him that ability.
What is a bad deal?
Have you actually thought about what Canada requires?
What would be considered a fair deal for the U.S.? That might be important too.

My big problem with all this hyperbole is people simultaneously talk about a "deal" and about free trade.
The two are not the same thing.
 
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The election happened almost 12 months ago. Now what? You guys keep milking the election honey moon phase.
C'mon Des, Carney lit some candles and opened up a nice bottle of Champagne. Why can't you get in the mood?
 

WyattEarp

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-US Trade agreement.
-One Canada Economy, removing Interprovincial barriers.
-No new pipelines even though he has full authority to do so. He doesn't need 3rd party approval.
-No mining projects started.
-No Submarine deal yet.
-No Fighter jet deal yet.
-Missed NATO Military spending target
-Spending not under control
-Won't hit Climate target goals
-HSR project not approved
-Housing targets not even close to what was promised.

Now you tell me what he delivered on.
Peculiarly, your press and some TERB members were celebrating Carney's trade visits to Australia and Japan.

I'll be honest. I find global trade to be all a mish-mash of extenuated negotiations, exceptions and hollow declarations.
So with that, I thought Canada, Australia and Japan were all signatories to the
Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership.
That's a mouthful.
 
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What is a bad deal?
Have you actually thought about what Canada requires?
What would be considered a fair deal for the U.S.? That might be important too.

My big problem with all this hyperbole is people simultaneously talk about a "deal" and about free trade.
The two are not the same thing.
Um, so the deal with the USA is unpredictable due to Trump. It's that simple. I'm talking about every other nation.

I keep telling you, we are going to move away to less trade with the USA. Other deals are happening.

If Trump gets stupid, there is nothing we can do. So no point fretting. We are Instead opening new possibilities. That is why Carney is best for this.

I can't stress this enough Wyatt. The nation mood is indifference to the USA. We are many respects just done, and willing to walk away for bullshit, whatever cost .
 

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Wait, I thought you said I went there to drink and to FAFO? Why would you assume I'm eating there? Now I can see why you're a butler...one dimensional thinking.🤦‍♂️
You don't drink in bars. You eat fast food, and play pretend. With an occasional Chinese massage visit.
 

WyattEarp

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Please confirm the game plan Canada does not require Gavin Newsome of AOC to ride to our rescue?
Please tell me you've got something more, Prime Minister.
Please tell me there's an ace up your sleeve.
These 41 million Canadians are working for better lives.
Please tell me their leader hasn't pinned their hopes on an American election three years from now.

Note: a special acknowledgment goes out to Aaron Sorkin. ;)
 

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The literal point of everything that's going on is a restructuring of the world as we knew it. That's Trump's job, those are his marching orders.
He's doing it with impunity. This isn't some guy running things by himself, he literally has seasoned Washington DC people behind him and Think Tanks drawing up policy, or in fact already drawn up policy.

Carney literally told us that the "old way of doing things isn't coming back", not Trump.
Our Dems are like your Liberals in the regards that they will adopt some of Trump's policies and pass them off as their own.
The liberal media will assist them in painting it in that light.

So I wouldn't be so sure that the Democrats will be a godsend for Canada. Just like Trump is a useful foil for Carney,
Canadian tariffs are a useful foil for our anti-Trump press.
 
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C'mon man, you are not a generation Twitter, you should not have to see a smiley face to recognize sarcasm :D 👴🤝.
I've kind of learned the hard way that sarcasm on social media often doesn't land.
The winks ;), the smiles :D actually do help.
Even then, some will miss the cue.
 

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When you have a snowflake like ShaquealOatmeal who can't refute things people say and his only way to shut people up is to message their friends to ban them what can a person do?

It's the sign of a weak person, but it also shows how much it gets under their skin and how weak they actually are. It also showed me how much I bothered him which is funny now. Just the sheer sight of me gets him upset at this point. lmfao
I'm sure I'll get banned again and this is really nothing. But like a child, he'll go running to Mommy.

The self proclaimed "white guy" who seems to bash white people all the time. Obviously uncomfortable in his own skin, can't blame him. lmfao
Salty, you just got your Salty handle back because you laughed at your own rebrand one you used to attack poor Shaq??

Come on, man! I'm trying to help you, Salty! You have to be nicer like me! You've rebranded so many times and you know a cat only has nine lives.
 

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Ahhhh typical squeeler. Once again throwing rocks and then putting your hands in your pockets. How can you wonder where I am when I disappeared right after you reported my post? AGAIN. So here's the thing. You reporting me to the mods is literally the greatest compliment you can give me. It's you admitting that you can't handle me by yourself and you're in need of help. I call that a win. Now I know, I know.....'snitches get stitches!'...'I would never!' So what you're going to now claim is that some other good hearted member came across my post and said 'wait,what?'...'hell no!' 'I can't let squeeler be subjected to this kind of treatment, if he isn't going to report this I am.':rolleyes::ROFLMAO: Riiiigghhttt, sure thing. Make all the excuses you want, deflect, avoid, pander. Do what you will. This is the second time you reported me all the while claiming 'I would never' :ROFLMAO: Sooooo sad.:cry: You just can't take it and I find that HILARIOUS!:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:


It doesn't surprise me that you are tied into a global network of rats that you are in constant communication with, I have no doubts that you are they're leader.:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

Anyway Brady, have a nice day and don't forget to Savour Your Morning.;);):ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
You are such a conspiracist! I have never reported you! EVER!!!!! I don't report anyone!!!!

Ask Bim, he will back me up!!!!

Just look into the mirror and ask him!!!!! LMAO

Kidding aside, no dude, I really have never reported you or anyone else, but you think what you want.
 
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Salty, you just got your Salty handle back because you laughed at your own rebrand one you used to attack poor Shaq??

Come on, man! I'm trying to help you, Salty! You have to be nicer like me! You've rebranded so many times and you know a cat only has nine lives.
Lmfao! I don't interact with shaq at all in any capacity so why would I post about him? You have the lowest IQ of an adult male I have ever seen. Just wow! 🤦‍♂️ :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
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You are such a conspiracist! I have never reported you! EVER!!!!! I don't report anyone!!!!

Ask Bim, he will back me up!!!!

Just look into the mirror and ask him!!!!! LMAO

Kidding aside, no dude, I really have never reported you or anyone else, but you think what you want.
So it's your position that a good Samaritan seen the post and reported it. I love that you're too soft to admit it even when presented WITH PROOF!

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