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Without the requested identifying information from Cogeco, (Hellboy Productions) will be left without recourse to protect its rights in the work,' said the judge.


Thousands of Canadians who pirated a copy of the movie Hellboy: The Crooked Man can no longer count on internet anonymity to download and share movies for free with impunity.

Hellboy Productions, Inc., has argued successfully in Federal Court that Cogeco Connexion Inc., a Canadian broadband business, must hand over the names associated with over 2,400 internet protocol (IP) addresses that allegedly infringed on the copyright of the 2024 movie depicting a fictional superhero and half-demon. Individuals can face thousands of dollars in penalties for doing just that.

The film production company wanted to identify the members of a group known collectively as the Doe defendants.

“I find that the interests of justice favour the disclosure of the information sought at this stage of the action after weighing the legitimate interests of (Hellboy Productions) in the ability to quickly and effectively enforce its asserted rights in the work against the legitimate privacy concerns of the persons sought to be identified,” Justice Allyson Whyte Nowak wrote in a recent decision out of Toronto.

The film production company alleges “that the Doe defendants have unlawfully offered to upload or stream the work and/or to unlawfully download the work utilizing the BitTorrent peer-to-peer (P2P) international network, which is a popular P2P ‘file sharing’ protocol which enables the decentralized distribution or streaming of movies over the internet between individual internet users.”

Whyte Nowak was satisfied that granting a Norwich order — which compels a third party not involved in the main dispute to disclose information only it holds — “is the only practical source of the information sought by (Hellboy Productions) and that the balancing of the public interests for and against disclosure of the information sought from Cogeco, favours disclosure.”

Hellboy Productions doesn’t just have a piracy problem with Cogeco customers.

“Separate orders shall be issued in respect of similar motions brought against Telus, Bell and Rogers,” said the judge.

“A still further set of orders shall be issued in respect of similar motions brought against Cogeco, Bell and Rogers in respect of a different movie, titled ‘Boy Kills World.'”

The judge was “satisfied that the Doe defendants were given fair warning of the possibility that their personal information could be disclosed by Cogeco.”

The broadband outfit “provided the Doe defendants with first and second notices from (Hellboy Productions’) counsel which asserted (its) copyright in the work and alleged infringement of the work by the Doe defendants. The first notice advised of Cogeco’s obligation to retain records that will allow for the identification of the Doe defendants and the second notice warned of the plaintiff’s ability to make a formal legal request to Cogeco to compel the Doe defendants’ identity.”

Hellboy Productions hired Thomas Nowak, the chief executive officer of Maverickeye UG, a forensic investigation company, “to track online piracy of its movies,” said the March 9 decision.

It details how Maverickeye used its “proprietary software to identify IP addresses associated with the distributing or uploading of the work utilizing the BitTorrent P2P network.”

In an affidavit, Nowak explained how Maverickeye “linked each of the Doe defendants to the potential acts of infringement of the work by their IP address.”

The law firm Aird & Berlis has been using this method for more than five years to go after people who illegally download and share its clients’ movies. It’s gone this route for about two dozen films.

It targets users of BitTorrent sites, which allow people to download chunks of a movie or TV show from multiple sources.

Specifically, according to its statement of claim in the recent Hellboy Productions case, it’s going after those who “unlawfully offer to upload or stream (i.e. make available) the work” as well as people who “unlawfully copied (downloaded)” the film.

First, the law firm sends them notices, giving them seven days to take the movie down and stop giving it away. If they comply, then typically nothing happens.

If they don’t stop, the firm issues a second notice indicating it reserves the right to sue the alleged movie pirates.

Individuals found liable for infringing on a film’s copyright can face damages ranging from a minimum of $100 to a maximum of $5,000.

Commercial infringement cases can result in much higher damages.

 
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Without the requested identifying information from Cogeco, (Hellboy Productions) will be left without recourse to protect its rights in the work,' said the judge.


Thousands of Canadians who pirated a copy of the movie Hellboy: The Crooked Man can no longer count on internet anonymity to download and share movies for free with impunity.

Hellboy Productions, Inc., has argued successfully in Federal Court that Cogeco Connexion Inc., a Canadian broadband business, must hand over the names associated with over 2,400 internet protocol (IP) addresses that allegedly infringed on the copyright of the 2024 movie depicting a fictional superhero and half-demon. Individuals can face thousands of dollars in penalties for doing just that.

The film production company wanted to identify the members of a group known collectively as the Doe defendants.

“I find that the interests of justice favour the disclosure of the information sought at this stage of the action after weighing the legitimate interests of (Hellboy Productions) in the ability to quickly and effectively enforce its asserted rights in the work against the legitimate privacy concerns of the persons sought to be identified,” Justice Allyson Whyte Nowak wrote in a recent decision out of Toronto.

The film production company alleges “that the Doe defendants have unlawfully offered to upload or stream the work and/or to unlawfully download the work utilizing the BitTorrent peer-to-peer (P2P) international network, which is a popular P2P ‘file sharing’ protocol which enables the decentralized distribution or streaming of movies over the internet between individual internet users.”

Whyte Nowak was satisfied that granting a Norwich order — which compels a third party not involved in the main dispute to disclose information only it holds — “is the only practical source of the information sought by (Hellboy Productions) and that the balancing of the public interests for and against disclosure of the information sought from Cogeco, favours disclosure.”

Hellboy Productions doesn’t just have a piracy problem with Cogeco customers.

“Separate orders shall be issued in respect of similar motions brought against Telus, Bell and Rogers,” said the judge.

“A still further set of orders shall be issued in respect of similar motions brought against Cogeco, Bell and Rogers in respect of a different movie, titled ‘Boy Kills World.'”

The judge was “satisfied that the Doe defendants were given fair warning of the possibility that their personal information could be disclosed by Cogeco.”

The broadband outfit “provided the Doe defendants with first and second notices from (Hellboy Productions’) counsel which asserted (its) copyright in the work and alleged infringement of the work by the Doe defendants. The first notice advised of Cogeco’s obligation to retain records that will allow for the identification of the Doe defendants and the second notice warned of the plaintiff’s ability to make a formal legal request to Cogeco to compel the Doe defendants’ identity.”

Hellboy Productions hired Thomas Nowak, the chief executive officer of Maverickeye UG, a forensic investigation company, “to track online piracy of its movies,” said the March 9 decision.

It details how Maverickeye used its “proprietary software to identify IP addresses associated with the distributing or uploading of the work utilizing the BitTorrent P2P network.”

In an affidavit, Nowak explained how Maverickeye “linked each of the Doe defendants to the potential acts of infringement of the work by their IP address.”

The law firm Aird & Berlis has been using this method for more than five years to go after people who illegally download and share its clients’ movies. It’s gone this route for about two dozen films.

It targets users of BitTorrent sites, which allow people to download chunks of a movie or TV show from multiple sources.

Specifically, according to its statement of claim in the recent Hellboy Productions case, it’s going after those who “unlawfully offer to upload or stream (i.e. make available) the work” as well as people who “unlawfully copied (downloaded)” the film.

First, the law firm sends them notices, giving them seven days to take the movie down and stop giving it away. If they comply, then typically nothing happens.

If they don’t stop, the firm issues a second notice indicating it reserves the right to sue the alleged movie pirates.

Individuals found liable for infringing on a film’s copyright can face damages ranging from a minimum of $100 to a maximum of $5,000.

Commercial infringement cases can result in much higher damages.

Why is only this movie a concern?
 
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I don't know periodically they come out with a movie they're angry about, but I think its just a way to stop the downloading.

They also are after these: "A still further set of orders shall be issued in respect of similar motions brought against Cogeco, Bell and Rogers in respect of a different movie, titled ‘Boy Kills World.'”
 
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Moral of the story, use a VPN when pirating. Especially if you still use bit torrent
Okay but moral of the story, request the movie at your public library and they will be happy to help you.

I only do Torrent for Anime and foreign films.
 

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Okay but moral of the story, request the movie at your public library and they will be happy to help you.

I only do Torrent for Anime and foreign films.
Personally I don't use bit torrent anymore, there are plenty of free streaming sites that work just as good as Netflix etc
 
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If you get a letter in the mail about copyright infringment you can safely throw it away. These are not criminal charges and you are not obligated to even respond. This is akin to someone claiming you scratched their car and trying to sue you with no concrete evidence. The maximum fine that could be levied against you would barely cover the time wasted by lawyers on this nonsense. This is not even in the same ballpark as copyright infringement in the commercial sense (like stealing IP or a logo or something like that).
 
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people still downloading movies?
 

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If you get a letter in the mail about copyright infringment you can safely throw it away. These are not criminal charges and you are not obligated to even respond. This is akin to someone claiming you scratched their car and trying to sue you with no concrete evidence. The maximum fine that could be levied against you would barely cover the time wasted by lawyers on this nonsense. This is not even in the same ballpark as copyright infringement in the commercial sense (like stealing IP or a logo or something like that).
same with emails from Rogers in that regard.

Still, a good VPN like IPVanish is worth the cost at less than $100 a year.
 

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First I'm amazed people dont uses VPNs for everything? Mine is always on.

Second these companies know that a fair few people will apologise (an admission of guilt) and then settle out of court. Just ignore them and see what happens.

And C: "Sorry yeah I realised my new router didnt have a password on it - fixed it now yer honour"
 
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First I'm amazed people dont uses VPNs for everything? Mine is always on.

Second these companies know that a fair few people will apologise (an admission of guilt) and then settle out of court. Just ignore them and see what happens.

And C: "Sorry yeah I realised my new router didnt have a password on it - fixed it now yer honour"
I only use mine for downloading movies and TV shows.

I found YouTube wants me to sign in if my VPN is on and I want to listen to a posted song on terb, and that my bank really didn't like if my VPN was activated when I would try to sign on for online banking.
 
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honest to god i had no idea this movie came out i thought the last hellboy movie to come out was that awful david harbour one 🤦‍♂️
 

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I still use torrents (allegedly) - I find that they are good for stuff that isnt available on the mainstream. Just the other day I saw a reference for an old DVD on a sport Im interested in. Not on Netflix or any of the channels was on ebay for $20 + $79 shipping. Wasnt on Amazon - but it was on the torrent site I use. So really Torrenting is keeping history alive.

As for getting movies from the normal sites - I have lost count of how many times I have turned off a movie after 10 minutes (any new Nic Cage, Jason Staham or Liam Neeson movie). Would I get a refund if I paid for it on a regular site?

Maybe the movie companies should release the first 20 minutes of every movie on a torrent site... but then they probably wont cos wed see how shit they were.
 
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