Carney majority all but confirmed: Nunavut's NDP MP Crosses floor to Liberals

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DesRicardo said:
I don't think we've ever seen a person or party not elected into office get blamed for everything as much as we've seeing Poilievre and the Conservatives.

Liberals have held all the power for 10 years and counting, but all talks and blame are on Conservatives.

This country is way too stupid.
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Blaming for what? I don't see it. People are however, judging politicians. By what ever criteria they choose to.

In any election, the loser is to blame for the loss. When Hillary and Kamala lost, it was their fault. Period. I never blame voters like you are. A leader's job is to inspire confidence in a platform, and ability to execute that platform. They also have to inspire people that they will act on behalf of the nation, and be able to deal not only with the nation's problems, but work internationally as well.

Carney did that. So did PP, he just didn't do it as well as Carney did.
 
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Butler1000 said:
Why, because then the government can not have to worry over partisan axe grinding on ratifying a good deal.

Honestly I don't think Carney will accept a bad deal. I think he will ride it out until we get a good one, or the Southern management changes. A majority also gives him that ability.

We are talking about Trump here. So who the fuck knows how it will go. The war, Epstein and who knows what else is going to be happening. He may decide its not worth a fight, or try to use it as a distraction from bigger problems.

But I know Carney won't rise to any stupid bait, and let the lower levels work out the details on a deal as needed. Thats his wheelhouse.
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What partisan axe to grind? You're just making things up.

There's no deal. Trump has already moved on with Mexico. You're like 8 month behind.

Just admit you got duped on Carney being the best to negotiate with Trump.
 
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Butler1000 said:
Blaming for what? I don't see it. People are however, judging politicians. By what ever criteria they choose to.

In any election, the loser is to blame for the loss. When Hillary and Kamala lost, it was their fault. Period. I never blame voters like you are. A leader's job is to inspire confidence in a platform, and ability to execute that platform. They also have to inspire people that they will act on behalf of the nation, and be able to deal not only with the nation's problems, but work internationally as well.

Carney did that. So did PP, he just didn't do it as well as Carney did.
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Politicians run on platforms and promises. If elected, but can't deliver on what they ran on, it needs to be addressed. Something you guys never what to do.

The election happened almost 12 months ago. Now what? You guys keep milking the election honey moon phase.

I maintain my point, You guys rather talk about Poilievre than the actual PM in charge. Well, now you really are on the clock. No more deflections or excuses.
 
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DesRicardo said:
What partisan axe to grind? You're just making things up.

There's no deal. Trump has already moved on with Mexico. You're like 8 month behind.

Just admit you got duped on Carney being the best to negotiate with Trump.
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Exactly. If we can use the reference of politicians as boxers Carney's entire platform was 'I'm the only guy that can beat Donald Trump'. He gets elected and suddenly he refuses to fight the promised opponent. Oh, I'll fight that guy or that guy, just not the guy you elected me to fight. The truth is we all knew he never stood a chance against Trump in the first place and this thing was just a dupe from the start. Down to the cute little punchline 'elbows up' Carney is a fucking coward.
 
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Wow, this is as honest and straightforward as any political leader can be. I dislike NDPs policy, and I did not know much about their leader, but he deserves respect for how he handles this. Maybe there is a hope for the NDP
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It really needed to be said and I'm glad a party on the left is calling it out, because if any other party said it it would be dismissed.

It seems to me there is an effort to not talk about the NDP because it's tough to criticize their position. Much more easy to just ignore them and point the finger at conservatives.

Unfortunately, the NDP is a fringe party. I don't see anything changing.
 
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DesRicardo said:
Politicians run on platforms and promises. If elected, but can't deliver on what they ran on, it needs to be addressed. Something you guys never what to do.

The election happened almost 12 months ago. Now what? You guys keep milking the election honey moon phase.

I maintain my point, You guys rather talk about Poilievre than the actual PM in charge. Well, now you really are on the clock. No more deflections or excuses.
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Lol! Tell what he hasn't delivered on.
 
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DesRicardo said:
What partisan axe to grind? You're just making things up.

There's no deal. Trump has already moved on with Mexico. You're like 8 month behind.

Just admit you got duped on Carney being the best to negotiate with Trump.
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What are you talking about? The CUSMA negotiations will be a tri-lateral meeting coming up this summer. Both the Mexican and Canadian govts have and continue to meet separately to have as much of a unified response to USA demands as the needs of both nations allow.

Show us where a separate comprehensive trade deal eliminating CUSMA has been finished, signed and ratified by both the USA and Mexico.

Or you are just bullshit artist whining like a little bitch because you can't move past last years loss.
 
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SaulGoodman777 said:
Exactly. If we can use the reference of politicians as boxers Carney's entire platform was 'I'm the only guy that can beat Donald Trump'. He gets elected and suddenly he refuses to fight the promised opponent. Oh, I'll fight that guy or that guy, just not the guy you elected me to fight. The truth is we all knew he never stood a chance against Trump in the first place and this thing was just a dupe from the start. Down to the cute little punchline 'elbows up' Carney is a fucking coward.
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It's crazy isn't it?

Those excuses worked 3 month into his election. It's been almost 12 months, Now what?
 
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SaulGoodman777 said:
Hmmmmm..... :unsure: Negotiating trade deals with trump? Getting tariffs removed? You know, campaign promises?
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Tell us, oh wise one, howvthat is to be accomplished. Looks like awaiting the Supreme Court decision was the right one. And now that the USA is in an even worse position, while we have new trade deals in place, many more in various stages of completion, and far more respect around the world, I'd say Carney’s longer game is going to work out in the end.
 
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squeezer said:
SYMPL 🐀

ps...you seem to love to use the name Opti, Hmmmm Optiprumus, hmmmmm, Salty, have you suffered from gout? I'm asking for a friend.
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Too late Brady Hartsfield, you already repeatedly insisted I'm Juan. Are you saying you were wrong? Are you saying you're stupid? I mean, you'd have to be, right? Which is it?

BTW how long have you had a humiliation kink? Are you also a cuck? Inquiring minds want to know.

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p.s. what does SYM mean?
 
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DesRicardo said:
It's crazy isn't it?

Those excuses worked 3 month into his election. It's been almost 12 months, Now what?
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You think PP would have gotten a deal 3 months in that was fair?

Are you really that uneducated?
 
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DesRicardo said:
It's crazy isn't it?

Those excuses worked 3 month into his election. It's been almost 12 months, Now what?
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Now nothing. All he needed was to get in the front door. Now it's just pig butchering Canada until he decides to leave. Said it before, I'll say it again. RIP Canada.
 
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Butler1000 said:
Tell us, oh wise one, howvthat is to be accomplished. Looks like awaiting the Supreme Court decision was the right one. And now that the USA is in an even worse position, while we have new trade deals in place, many more in various stages of completion, and far more respect around the world, I'd say Carney’s longer game is going to work out in the end.
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The ramblings of a Butler......:rolleyes:
 
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Butler1000 said:
Lol! Tell what he hasn't delivered on.
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-US Trade agreement.
-One Canada Economy, removing Interprovincial barriers.
-No new pipelines even though he has full authority to do so. He doesn't need 3rd party approval.
-No mining projects started.
-No Submarine deal yet.
-No Fighter jet deal yet.
-Missed NATO Military spending target
-Spending not under control
-Won't hit Climate target goals
-HSR project not approved
-Housing targets not even close to what was promised.

Now you tell me what he delivered on.
 
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