How has hobbying changed in the last decade?

yessir235 · Mar 11, 2026

Specifically wondering about 2011-2019. I got into hobbying around 2019, just at the tail end right before Covid.

for those that consistently hobbied throughout the 2010’s what were your most memorable experiences and how have things change for better or for worse since then? Curious to hear your opinions

massman · Mar 11, 2026

yessir235 said:
Specifically wondering about 2011-2019. I got into hobbying around 2019, just at the tail end right before Covid.

for those that consistently hobbied throughout the 2010’s what were your most memorable experiences and how have things change for better or for worse since then? Curious to hear your opinions

Cost has risen (obvs). Tho IMO for a while the rates did not keep up with inflation, and simply have caught up.

Unsafe services have started to creep in, particularly at the fringes of the industry. This would have been nearly unheard of a decade or more ago. Memories of the HIV epidemic have faded significantly

Classified services are now flooded with fake ads, bait and switch and probable trafficking. It’s now at the point where these ads are almost useless.

Requests for references / ID / deposits. These were pretty well unheard of before, and now are basically routine. Increasing use of anonymous text app type communication by time wasters (and some dangerous individuals too) has spurred this.

Now as for the positives, there are so many great providers out there, and it is easy to do research to find one that will basically guarantee good experience. The bat has continued to rise in terms of the quality of experience provided. It is also easy to find someone who can match the experience you are seeking. The quality of the websites is also much better.

Starwalker · Mar 11, 2026

All the good ones are booked solid

escortsxxx · Mar 11, 2026

yessir235 said:
Specifically wondering about 2011-2019. I got into hobbying around 2019, just at the tail end right before Covid.

for those that consistently hobbied throughout the 2010’s what were your most memorable experiences and how have things change for better or for worse since then? Curious to hear your opinions

That period felt like a laboratory. People were figuring things out in real time:
Huge changes. I say less capitalistic in the past. Street action was always the capitalistic drive but forum culture was more people working who where attracted to the adventure. But the text social anxiety disease of social media creep in, the laws where changed - before everything was legal that was not harmful now there are legal issues. Social taboo was the only issue and I say by 2010 taboo was almost gone. Charlie Sheen in the states brought his sp to family dinner as an extreme case - a bit shocking but not even scandalous anymore . Twitter and social media where introduced, and where not at there best yet but on the other hand, the where very good with no real downsides. Some Sps had youtube channels - which soon disappeared but where cool while youtube allowed them. The world was still secret in a good way, a small club. Before U of T has riding sybian parties for Frosh and the forum was still a special little club - there where still actual social parties and charity drives. Lots of experimentation - how to use social media, how to be safe, less use of texting more actual communication. Experiments boths succesful and failed. OF existed but cooking channels where the public face of it. OF was just a new facebook (but wasn't)
Ledgends existed. Providers that had the status of movie stars. Later, because legends were always booked, people stopped building there fame in response. That catergory became very small - partially because of a feed back loup - a girl on ledgend track usually pushed herself to be even better- and partially noone wanted to share and risk over booking.

That being said the decade before that had more changes. Internet was niche up to 2010. Smart phones arose 2011 mainstream by 2013 - before 2011 radically differnent universe. The golden age

BiggerTitsTheBetter · Mar 11, 2026

yessir235 said:
Specifically wondering about 2011-2019. how have things change for better or for worse since then? Curious to hear your opinions

One major change mate.
We all got older by 10 years!

harryass · Mar 11, 2026

imo for the most part not much has changed. Even the age of some Sps remain the same.

harrypalm · Mar 11, 2026

I've been out of the loop for awhile. Did the 2014 law change have no effect on the landscape?
Criminalization of Purchasing Sex (Bill C-36) became a Nordic model by the end of that year.

My recent research seems to suggest a more liberal approach to safety in sexual practices. Idk

itd131 · Mar 11, 2026

One change that stands out to me is the wide range of rates. It used to be that agencies had one rate for all their ladies. Now they all have different levels. Also, the range of indie rates is definitely wider than it used to be.

massman · Mar 12, 2026

harrypalm said:
I've been out of the loop for awhile. Did the 2014 law change have no effect on the landscape?
Criminalization of Purchasing Sex (Bill C-36) became a Nordic model by the end of that year.

My recent research seems to suggest a more liberal approach to safety in sexual practices. Idk

As for C36, I think it changed things, at first seemingly only temporarily (eg agencies seemed to pull back on explicit advertising of specific services). But I think the more lasting change was an increased desire for privacy from guys, more use of anonymous burner emails and text apps to communicate and not unexpectedly, this led to an increase in screening requirements from the girls.

For the most part tho, really not a lot changed after C36. The vast majority of LE is not interested in enforcing it, apart from underage or trafficked girls (which, IMO, they are still doing poorly at), and the laws we had pre C36 covered these areas just fine.

I agree with you also that in some corners of the industry, sex has become less safe, tho I think for the bulk of it, there has been little change (specifically, unprotected penetrative activity is still a hard limit for 90+ %, as it should be).

Patron · Mar 12, 2026

harrypalm said:
I've been out of the loop for awhile. Did the 2014 law change have no effect on the landscape?
Criminalization of Purchasing Sex (Bill C-36) became a Nordic model by the end of that year.

My recent research seems to suggest a more liberal approach to safety in sexual practices. Idk

I do wonder if the sort of watchful eye oversight has had a negative effect on the number of 18-20 year olds entering the industry, and if this coming of age generation will enter later. Maybe c-36 has no effect, since the lack of older teens and even ladies in their early 20s is a much smaller percentage than in the past.

I am not really complaining. The rotation of ladies I see regularly in a wide variety of locations, is the best it has ever been. They are confident, professional and offer the services they want, including alt and kink. GFE is the norm and they base their decisions on science and reasonable judgements. Technology has aided in the rise of the independent.

But some experiences a person had a decade or two ago just don’t seem to happen any longer. Once in Montreal, in the summer, a lady rollerbladed to the session. She said she was starting college in the fall. For the second cum, she asked if we could finish with her hand because she liked to watch it squirt out. Another time I saw a cutie in NYC on the way to Europe on a long layover who had gone to high school the year before and she said the only thing she missed was cheerleading.

Now I know you can’t compare Canada and the U.S., and that NYC lady was with an escort service where the ladies travelled, and U.S. federal law enforcement killed off touring agencies. But even in Canada, I do wonder if agencies are reluctant to sign up the just out of high school ladies who are seeing whether they like this line of work. If they don’t, would they be more likely to argue coercion than a slightly older lady who has hit enough of the school of hard knocks even at 23 or 24 to know everything in life isn’t like a Disney movie?

I don’t have an explanation for the biggest change I have seen in the last decade or two, which is the lack of older teens and ladies in their very early twenties entering the industry. I know that them living at home and getting larger parental support are the two biggest factors, and the U.S. putting costly barriers to entry is a large explanation in the U.S., but I do wonder if the long, invisible arm of c-36 has some effect in Canada? Not sure that rollerblade girl exists in either Montreal or Toronto anymore during her summer between high school and college.

LilyLiefe · Mar 12, 2026

Patron said:
I do wonder if the sort of watchful eye oversight has had a negative effect on the number of 18-20 year olds entering the industry, and if this coming of age generation will enter later. Maybe c-36 has no effect, since the lack of older teens and even ladies in their early 20s is a much smaller percentage than in the past.

I am not really complaining. The rotation of ladies I see regularly in a wide variety of locations, is the best it has ever been. They are confident, professional and offer the services they want, including alt and kink. GFE is the norm and they base their decisions on science and reasonable judgements. Technology has aided in the rise of the independent.

But some experiences a person had a decade or two ago just don’t seem to happen any longer. Once in Montreal, in the summer, a lady rollerbladed to the session. She said she was starting college in the fall. For the second cum, she asked if we could finish with her hand because she liked to watch it squirt out. Another time I saw a cutie in NYC on the way to Europe on a long layover who had gone to high school the year before and she said the only thing she missed was cheerleading.

Now I know you can’t compare Canada and the U.S., and that NYC lady was with an escort service where the ladies travelled, and U.S. federal law enforcement killed off touring agencies. But even in Canada, I do wonder if agencies are reluctant to sign up the just out of high school ladies who are seeing whether they like this line of work. If they don’t, would they be more likely to argue coercion than a slightly older lady who has hit enough of the school of hard knocks even at 23 or 24 to know everything in life isn’t like a Disney movie?

I don’t have an explanation for the biggest change I have seen in the last decade or two, which is the lack of older teens and ladies in their very early twenties entering the industry. I know that them living at home and getting larger parental support are the two biggest factors, and the U.S. putting costly barriers to entry is a large explanation in the U.S., but I do wonder if the long, invisible arm of c-36 has some effect in Canada? Not sure that rollerblade girl exists in either Montreal or Toronto anymore during her summer between high school and college.

My off the cuff theory regarding younger SPs may be the use of social media & OF as an avenue to make money. Easy entry and they grew up with the tech so are more comfortable with it. A smaller learning curve with a non-existent ceiling for earning potential.

GeeBee · Mar 12, 2026

LilyLiefe said:
My off the cuff theory regarding younger SPs may be the use of social media & OF as an avenue to make money. Easy entry and they grew up with the tech so are more comfortable with it. A smaller learning curve with a non-existent ceiling for earning potential.

Agreed

It’s not a cake walk to make a good income from OF etc… but it can be done, for all the reasons you’ve stated. I’d also add the safety risks associated with in person sex work.

Putting myself in their shoes, if I was tech savy (as most young women are) and sex work was in the cards for me as an income option, the virtual world of OF etc… would definitely be option #1 to try before putting myself out there physically.

kherg007 · Mar 12, 2026

Interesting question. Two thoughts:

1. Prices primarily. Up appx 50%. (Eg 200ph agencies are 300ph, etc).

2. Early on -like 2013 2014 - the ladies openly listed their services. I remember making a chart as I was researching my first visit and you could chart out the Greek or rim or bbbj etc.

jjz · Mar 12, 2026

I wish I had more money back then.

billie69 · Mar 12, 2026

Costs have gone up and quality has gone down (not in a good way).

JohnnyWishbone · Mar 12, 2026

jjz said:
I wish I had more money back then.

I wish I didn't hold back. I had money and stuck to my budget. If I knew after 2019 it would be quite different I would have taken advantage of seeing the many wonderful ladies more.

Otherwise changes I've noticed:

1. Less quality these days. Used to be spoiled for choice for hot ladies at better prices. These days I find it hard to find someone I would rate 8/10 facially and there's many out of shape ladies these days (I deem them overweight but many others may find them ok/acceptable). Decent looking SPs probably exist but I am probably too lazy to go searching for them now.

2. Tattoos - tons of the ladies have them these days. NMCOT

3. Providing ID to indies was not a thing 10+ years ago. I think I first saw that maybe around 2018/2019.

4. Not from me but from a couple of ladies in the industry who been around 10+ years that I know well mentioned to me in the past few months that the main race/demographic of their clients has changed with one saying 75% of her clients are from 1 race/demographic.

5. IIRC BBBJ was not standard back in the day. Maybe it became standard around 2004/5. Could be wrong on the year.

JohnnyWishbone · Mar 12, 2026

CtrlAltDefeat said:
Peak time was 2005-2017.

I'd say 2003-2017. 2002/3 we started to get an influx of very good EE talent in Toronto. I'd agree about 2017 though 2018/2019 was still pretty good but the decline had started.

billie69 · Mar 12, 2026

JohnnyWishbone said:
I'd say 2003-2017. 2002/3 we started to get an influx of very good EE talent in Toronto. I'd agree about 2017 though 2018/2019 was still pretty good but the decline had started.

Everything went downhill when the EE SC permits expired because the clubs had to lower their standards and hire girls they normally wouldn’t.

That, plus onlyfans and other platforms took a lot of good ones out of the marketplace although some have returned after Onlyfans got saturated.

The Quebec/Montreal girls don’t seem to work here as often either which has led to a decline in talent.

JohnnyWishbone · Mar 12, 2026

billie69 said:
Everything went downhill when the EE SC permits expired because the clubs had to lower their standards and hire girls they normally wouldn’t.

That, plus onlyfans and other platforms took a lot of good ones out of the marketplace although some have returned after Onlyfans got saturated.

The Quebec/Montreal girls don’t seem to work here as often either which has led to a decline in talent.

Very true.

The last time I was at a SC was around 2017 and the average lady there was not attractive, aggressive, had bad implants and were fat (aka. Thick).

I used to like the Montreal girls tours of Toronto. Coming here as indies or as a group/agency or with Mirage (I think they used to team up with Eleganza, similar to how they bring over some Euphoria girls these days). I remember going to MTL around 2007 and seeing 10/10's for $220 I think, some were even $180 IIRC while the price here was $240 I think. I recall having a regular in 2013/2014 and it was $450 for 2 hours!

xix · Mar 12, 2026

@yessir235 your question has been answered in the 2 years or last year. I remember the thread.
Finding it is a hassle.

Have fun.

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