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The Real Reason the U.S. Att@cked Iran, And It’s Not About Israel(A Deep Dive)

Frankfooter

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The US has access to sufficient oil from outside the Middle East, and can, in fact, export. So, from a US perspective, who cares what happens to the Europeans, and let’s sell Texas or Venezuelan oil to the Japanese and Koreans.
So you're saying trump doesn't care if he destroys the economies around the world?
That may be accurate but its going to screw over america as well.

 

Frankfooter

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Israelis the best example of a small nation that is wildly capable. They also have the best intel.
Except that they lost all their Mossad agents in January when they tried to turn real protests into a revolution.
That's when Iran shut down the internet and tracked all those left using starlink supplied by Israel.
Now they are blind in Iran and just destroying hospitals and schools.


 

Troubadour121

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I don't love Donald Trump. But I would still question his enemy using
the tactic of assassination of him and his family members to win a war.
I don't love Trump either for the tarriffs he imposed on Canada, but I definitely hate the Ayatollahs or any terrorist. Its about time that someone stood up to these crazies.
 
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I don't love Trump either for the tarriffs he imposed on Canada, but I definitely hate the Ayatollahs or any terrorist. Its about time that someone stood up to these crazies.
What good it did to take out the 87 years old Ayatollah who was afflicted
with prostate cancer and about to meet his doom so he could be replaced
by another Ayatollah 30 years younger?
 

Ibble Obble

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Israel has been pushing the United States to strike Iran for years. What’s different now is that Iran is widely seen as weaker than it has been in decades, with a collapsing economy, sanctions pressure, and ongoing internal unrest. That perception likely played a role in the timing of the attack. And of course, Trump is dumb enough to do it.

But a weak Iran is still a dangerous Iran. The regime still has missile forces, regional proxies, and the ability to retaliate asymmetrically. Intelligence assessments have already warned that military strikes alone are unlikely to topple the regime. Don't believe a word the US is telling you about dismantling their military.

And the geopolitical consequences are unpredictable. Iran has deep strategic ties with both Russia and China. Neither is likely to enter the war directly, but both stand to benefit from exploiting the conflict diplomatically, economically, and strategically.

In other words, this is a gamble. One that could contain Iran or one that could spiral far beyond what anyone involved expects.

This is the dumbest thing that could have been done, but par for the course for Trump. A billon dollars a day for the war, but not a dime for the American people.
 
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Troubadour121

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What good it did to take out the 87 years old Ayatollah who was afflicted
with prostate cancer and about to meet his doom so he could be replaced
by another Ayatollah 30 years younger?
They should take of this one too if he's the same.
 

Frankfooter

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Israel has been pushing the United States to strike Iran for years. What’s different now is that Iran is widely seen as weaker than it has been in decades, with a collapsing economy, sanctions pressure, and ongoing internal unrest. That perception likely played a role in the timing of the attack. And of course, Trump is dumb enough to do it.

But a weak Iran is still a dangerous Iran. The regime still has missile forces, regional proxies, and the ability to retaliate asymmetrically. Intelligence assessments have already warned that military strikes alone are unlikely to topple the regime. Don't believe a word the US is telling you about dismantling their military.

And the geopolitical consequences are unpredictable. Iran has deep strategic ties with both Russia and China. Neither is likely to enter the war directly, but both stand to benefit from exploiting the conflict diplomatically, economically, and strategically.

In other words, this is a gamble. One that could contain Iran or one that could spiral far beyond what anyone involved expects.

This is the dumbest thing that could have been done, but par for the course for Trump. A billon dollars a day for the war, but not a dime for the American people.
People mistook restraint for weakness.
Every time Israel attacked Iran they responded with the minimal amount to show to their people they were responding but not enough to escalate the situation.
This time they said they will respond full out if they are attacked at any level.

 

Ibble Obble

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People mistook restraint for weakness.
Every time Israel attacked Iran they responded with the minimal amount to show to their people they were responding but not enough to escalate the situation.
This time they said they will respond full out if they are attacked at any level.

I wouldn't trust anything any of these governments are saying, US, Isreal or Iran. It's all propaganda.
 

Uwauwa

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Anything said in the video explains why the U.S. has to resort to murder
and assassination of Iran's leaders as the tactic to win war?
Why are you against taking out the regime’s leaders? Good riddance in my opinion. Iranians are celebrating.
 

Insidious Von

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Poor Bibi, he didn't get along with President Obama and Biden, he sat in a corner and pouted.

 

Ibble Obble

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Why are you against taking out the regime’s leaders? Good riddance in my opinion. Iranians are celebrating.
It's not about taking out the regime leader, the issue is the consequences of doing so are usually far worse that leaving them in
place.

We're now talking about a possible global recession and complete destabilisation of just about everything associate with oil production and consumption.

Manufacturing, transportation, agriculture are only the tip of the iceberg.

This is by by far the dumbest thing the US and Isreal have ever done. The ramifications of this will reverberate for decades. There is no undoing what's been done and the US and Isreal will endure the consequences, but only in the form of the suffering of their economies and their people. The politicians and billionaires will be just fine. It's always on the backs of their people.
 
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