I’m not going to claim to have expert knowledge on the details of the situation but the sentiment is that recent court rulings have basically given some native tribes in BC land rights over Vancouver. This means that their rites on land supersedes that of home owners titles of their homes. I’m probably exaggerating the issue but this is not the direction that Canada should be going. The last refuge of wealth for Canadians is their homes. To have this be a threat to that is next level diabolical for the gov to resolve in their reconciliation with the natives. At this point , the natives , who are a tiny percentage of the population, now have the country by the balls. When is enough going to be enough. On top of everything else that is fucked up about Canada, this is just back breaking and if true, will end prosperity in this country for good. Looking forward to hearing more thoughts and opinions here.
Have Native People in BC been given land rights over peoples homes ?
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It will last right up to the point when the natives try to take the house of a Chinese multinational fentanyl trafficker. Then these 'land rights' will become the meaningless virtue signal they are
A couple of points to note:
---the Native groups involved have previously stated they are not interested in private property, it's government owned land that is in question.
---the courts wouldn't have ruled in favour of the Native groups had many successive governments not botched land deals made with the Native groups and failed to rectify it. If the government reneged on any agreement they made with a Terb member, that member would be screaming to the high heavens about injustice.
---the Native groups involved have previously stated they are not interested in private property, it's government owned land that is in question.
---the courts wouldn't have ruled in favour of the Native groups had many successive governments not botched land deals made with the Native groups and failed to rectify it. If the government reneged on any agreement they made with a Terb member, that member would be screaming to the high heavens about injustice.
Governments reneging on promises made is a feature of western democracy, not a bug. The big difference here is that the courts are saying the promises made to the natives are some how more important than the ones made to every other citizen. Giving every native band the government land they want will be disastrous as it will all but ensure Canada as a nation won't be able use our natural resources for the benefit of the entire nation, including the natives
The courts are saying the government sold/gave land they didn't have the legal right to sell/give. If private property owners lost their land their beef should be with the government for improperly selling them the land. It's not an issue of giving people land they want, it's an issue of enforcing a legally binding agreement.
From a 30000foot view, seams that the Natives get a lot from this country and yet still fail as a society as a whole. They have their 1% that are very affluent but the rest are in poverty. So again Canada it’s a lose lose. Lol. Also, not to get into the whole colonialism debate here, but I don’t think natives in other countries in the western hemisphere get the kind of kid glove treatment Canada gives the natives here. Like Mexico and Brazil, the natives there get nothing (not a researched opinion). Now I know that the optics of Canada being a rich country, so we must share , but the hard truth is that Canada is has not been a rich country for 2 decades already. Fairness to the rest of the population should be the issue.
If the government can come to a reasonable compromise with the Native groups, perhaps they can add clauses that stipulate the Native groups will not go after private land. Since they've already said they won't it might be quite possible that they agree to it.
I appreciate your point of view, but I never intended to get into the social/cultural aspect. I was only pointing out that from the courts perspective this is an issue involving 2 groups that voluntarily entered into an agreement with one side not living up to terms of the agreement. You can apply the principle to any 2 groups that don't invole Native groups or the Government.
Maybe it will just be like Allan Gardens, where the city evicted all of the tent dwellers except the ones in the big white tee pee.
Geez, if Natives knocked on my door asking to have the land back, I'd say 'OK, if you give me back the beads, copper pots and brandy that your ancestors sold it for.".
I get your point. Mine however was larger and more philosophical. When is enough enough. ? I don’t think there is another country on earth that bends over more for its native populations than Canada. This kind of stuff causes division in its population. And people wonder why we are not a united country.
