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harrypalm said:
This team has been hard to watch this year, in fact, lots of time I turned it off.
why when we get number 1 pick the year before was the time to get the generational player?
-85 vs 84 it was Wendel instead of Mario
-15 vs 16 it was Matthews instead of McDavid
-25 vs 26 it will be McKenna’s vs Schaefer/Celibrini, 😆
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The Leafs are NOT picking 1st overall in 2026. Even Vancouver who are slam dunk last is only 25% to pick 1st overall.
Boston, however, may be picking 1st overall courtesy of Leafs in 2028 but they are more likely to be picking 6th or 7th this year.
 
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So, Edmonton just beat Vegas to give them 70 pts in 64 games and they are considered cup contenders.
Leafs losers of their last 7 games are still 65 pts in 64 games and are considered a team that requires a total rebuild.
5 point difference. That's all it takes.
 
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superstar_88 said:
So, Edmonton just beat Vegas to give them 70 pts in 64 games and they are considered cup contenders.
Leafs losers of their last 7 games are still 65 pts in 64 games and are considered a team that requires a total rebuild.
5 point difference. That's all it takes.
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Is anyone really considering the Oilers as cup contenders? I get that they have McDavid and Draisaitl but the team has too many holes to be considered in the same league as a Colorado or Dallas.
 
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K Douglas said:
Is anyone really considering the Oilers as cup contenders? I get that they have McDavid and Draisaitl but the team has too many holes to be considered in the same league as a Colorado or Dallas.
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They made back to back Finals with holes. How can you not consider them contenders.
Playoffs are not won on paper. Jets won the President's Trophy last season. What happened to them?
Someone even started a thread after 15 regular season games anointing them cup champs.
2023 Boston had an astounding 135 point season and they even loaded up for the playoffs. Out in the first round.
Leafs were considered contenders also during their core 4 days and they only got out of first round twice.
A team would not keep trading 1st round picks for rentals and finally 2 first round picks if they didn't consider themselves contenders. Contenders doesn't mean favourites. Florida won the cup without home ice advantage in any series last season.

Holes do you mean a big fast scoring winger like McMann?
Or a defenseman like OEL?
Or a checking center like Roy or Laughton?
Or a goaltender like Stolarz?
Edmonton would not trade a 1st round pick if they didn't consider themselves contenders.
Vegas is also a contender and they're only 2 points up on Edmonton and lost to them last game.
 
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So, Boston tanked last season to finish last in the Atlantic. They ended up 6th in the draft rankings and picked 7th when NYI jumped them. This season Leafs could tank and finish last in the Atlantic and 6th in the draft rankings get jumped and have Boston pick 7th again.

Last season Buffalo, Detroit, Montreal, and Boston were the bottom 4 teams in the Atlantic with TB second in the Division.
This season all 4 of these teams are currently in a playoff position with TB second in the Division by total points.

Bad news for the Leafs as Marchand is out long term with an injury.
 
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They made back to back Finals with holes. How can you not consider them contenders.
Playoffs are not won on paper. Jets won the President's Trophy last season. What happened to them?
Someone even started a thread after 15 regular season games anointing them cup champs.
2023 Boston had an astounding 135 point season and they even loaded up for the playoffs. Out in the first round.
Leafs were considered contenders also during their core 4 days and they only got out of first round twice.
A team would not keep trading 1st round picks for rentals and finally 2 first round picks if they didn't consider themselves contenders. Contenders doesn't mean favourites. Florida won the cup without home ice advantage in any series last season.

Holes do you mean a big fast scoring winger like McMann?
Or a defenseman like OEL?
Or a checking center like Roy or Laughton?
Or a goaltender like Stolarz?
Edmonton would not trade a 1st round pick if they didn't consider themselves contenders.
Vegas is also a contender and they're only 2 points up on Edmonton and lost to them last game.
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I think you would agree with me that the holes are much bigger this year. Will that all change come playoff time, I guess it remains to be seen. If Nurse doesn't get his game together it will be an uphill battle. Now what they do have going for them come playoff time is a weak division. Only two teams have a positive goal differential.
 
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K Douglas said:
I think you would agree with me that the holes are much bigger this year. Will that all change come playoff time, I guess it remains to be seen. If Nurse doesn't get his game together it will be an uphill battle. Now what they do have going for them come playoff time is a weak division. Only two teams have a positive goal differential.
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I said they were contenders. I didn't say they had no holes. In fact I implied it by them not picking up anything Leafs were providing. Last season they never had home ice advantage until the Finals against Florida. They were the 6th seed of 8 teams in the West based on regular season standings. They did load up for the playoffs in a sense. They traded a 1st round draft pick after all.
 
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Edmonton has two of the top ten players in the league. If they get average goaltending, they're going to be contenders.
 
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billsmafia said:
Edmonton has two of the top ten players in the league. If they get average goaltending, they're going to be contenders.
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That won't do it. If all you're getting is average goaltending you better have an outstanding D core.
The league is way to competitive, you need depth.
The Leafs have paid the price for that mistake.
 
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If anyone caught TB Buffalo yesterday it was game of the year. It was like watching a completely different game than the Leafs, especially the speed.
 
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If anyone caught TB Buffalo yesterday it was game of the year. It was like watching a completely different game than the Leafs, especially the speed.
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I can't wait to see the speed and precision of Bill Daley flipping over those square cards with the Leafs logo, number 5 pick at this year's draft lottery.
 
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glamphotographer said:
The Jets also have a 3-game win streak, now only 3pts behind the Leafs.
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Jets are 6th. It's a given they have to get past them to get to the bottom 5.
Otherwise there's no point and 6th is the worse place to end up.
 
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billsmafia said:
It's all dependent on the lottery anyway.
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I'm not talking about 1st overall. I'm talking about Leafs pick or Boston's pick and in this case the best pick Boston can get so no it's not all dependent on the lottery. A lot of it is dependent on where Leafs finish before the lottery because the lottery is low percentage. If it was all dependent on lottery Leafs are better to finish 11th or 10th.

Actually, the best pick Boston can get is 1st overall in 2028 so in my personal opinion Leafs are better to finish 10 or 11 and give the pick to Boston since it's more likely Leafs are a bad team in 2028 and starting or in a midst of a full rebuild than a good team and rely on the lottery for 1st overall this season without giving Boston a potential 6th overall.

Quite possibly or perhaps probably Philly will get Leafs unprotected 2028 or 2029 as well. In the midst of a full rebuild and they don't have Laughton as well.

Treliving tried to fix his mistake with the original Laughton trade precisely because of this. Hence why he was so demoralized when he couldn't make it happen and accumulate more and better futures. The problem being unprotected picks during a full rebuild.. This would be the Kessel situation again except they didn't get a Kessel.
 
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Laughton has 2 goals in 2 games with the Kings, so far. If he thrives with the Kings, that would be a bad reflection on Berube.
 
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In 2 games Laughton is also 15 face off wins and 6 losses. Averaging over 15 minutes. Playing on both the PP and PK.
For comparison McMann averaged over 15 minutes this season for the Leafs and played more than Domi, Roy, and Maccelli.
On the Leafs Laughton played less than Domi, Roy, and Maccelli. He's the 3rd line center in LA.
When the Leafs traded for him he was suppose to play 3rd line center. You don't pay a 1st plus for a 4th line center.
Roy got a 1st because he was playing 3rd line center and in Colorado he is playing 3rd line center.
Kadri is playing left wing on the top line. Edmonton is playing Jason Dickinson as their 3rd line center.
A player they traded for at the deadline so that's who they chose to fill that role.
 
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tml said:
Laughton has 2 goals in 2 games with the Kings, so far. If he thrives with the Kings, that would be a bad reflection on Berube.
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If the Kings make the playoffs better for the Leafs. They have the conditional pick from the Kings.
 
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