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Iran President apologizes for bombing the Gulf countries and they would stop, but they don't

princekwekua

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Its almost a year since the bombed them, they continued rebuilding non stop, that's the reason. The were supposed to enrich for civilian use at 3%, they were enriching to 60% and stopped inspectors over the years from checking what's happening in their nuclear facilities.

I don't see the Israelis committing genocide it all, Hamas besides attaching every year with thousands of rockets in October 7 they crossed into Israel and butchered 1200 people, children women, seniors. What do you expect Israel to do? Nothing? Hamas continued to fight and used their civilians as human shields and more than once said that they needed to sacrifice their civilians in interviews. Hamas are the worst, Palestinians couldn't even vote.

I hope the Persians will rise and get rid of the Mullahs once they're weakened by the US/Israel attacks. Even if they don't get rid of the Mullahs, they'll stop their development of nuclear weapons for some time.
Obama signed an accord with Iran to constrain nuclear development. The higher concentration of uranium was confiscated and Iran was subjected to random inspections by the IAEA. Donald Trump called it the worst deal ever made and ripped it up. You remember that, right? So Iran went back to enriching higher concentration uranium. Trump said he obliterated those nuclear facilities last year. So what is the rationale for the current attack?

The slaughter of 1200 Israelis by Hamas was horrific and has been condemned in no uncertain terms. In response, Israel has killed over 73,000 Palestinians, the overwhelming majority are civilians. Hospitals, schools, mosques, refugee centers have been reduced to rubble. For a long time, Israel barred food, water, fuel, medical supplies from entering Gaza, resulting in famine and untold number of deaths. The Israeli genocide has been recognised by a United Nations special committee, the International Association of Genocide Scholars and many human rights groups.

Now this despicable Israel has extended its blood thirsty taste for wanton destruction into Iran in cahoots with Donald Trump who claimed farcically that he attacked Iran because Iran was going to attack the United States.

In other news, oil is now more than $100 a barrel, with devastating consequences for the global economy. Thanks to Trump and Netanyahu.
And Mojtaba Khamenei, the son of the late Ali Khamenei, has been appointed Supreme Leader of Iran in defiance of Donald Trump. In addition to his father, they killed his mother, his wife, his child and other relatives. He will exact revenge, one way or another.
 
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The crazy thing about this conflict is that both Israel and the US are becoming pariahs. You could argue that the US has always been viewed fairly negatively in the Middle East, but they were usually seen as a force for good through their humanitarian aid they gave to Africa and Asia. Trump (or DOGE) killed that. Now you have Trump acting unilaterally in launching a war against Iran without input or warning to allied in Europe, many of those countries that were suckered into fighting in Iraq or Afghanistan...Then you add the stupid trade war bullshit...

Israel, as we have seen, conned Donnie boy into this. After what they did in Gaza and are doing right now in the West Bank...I think many people and countries are starting to view them as a problem, not the "democratic ally" in the region.
 

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The crazy thing about this conflict is that both Israel and the US are becoming pariahs. You could argue that the US has always been viewed fairly negatively in the Middle East, but they were usually seen as a force for good through their humanitarian aid they gave to Africa and Asia. Trump (or DOGE) killed that. Now you have Trump acting unilaterally in launching a war against Iran without input or warning to allied in Europe, many of those countries that were suckered into fighting in Iraq or Afghanistan...Then you add the stupid trade war bullshit...

Israel, as we have seen, conned Donnie boy into this. After what they did in Gaza and are doing right now in the West Bank...I think many people and countries are starting to view them as a problem, not the "democratic ally" in the region.
The US and Israel are indeed the problem.
They thought bombing Iran would somehow lead to the overthrow of the government. It wont happen. So then what? Destroy the whole country?
Meanwhile, rising oil price is causing real damage globally
 
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Obama signed an accord with Iran to constrain nuclear development. The higher concentration of uranium was confiscated and Iran was subjected to random inspections by the IAEA. Donald Trump called it the worst deal ever made and ripped it up. You remember that, right? So Iran went back to enriching higher concentration uranium. Trump said he obliterated those nuclear facilities last year. So what is the rationale for the current attack?

The slaughter of 1200 Israelis by Hamas was horrific and has been condemned in no uncertain terms. In response, Israel has killed over 73,000 Palestinians, the overwhelming majority are civilians. Hospitals, schools, mosques, refugee centers have been reduced to rubble. For a long time, Israel barred food, water, fuel, medical supplies from entering Gaza, resulting in famine and untold number of deaths. The Israeli genocide has been recognised by a United Nations special committee, the International Association of Genocide Scholars and many human rights groups.

Now this despicable Israel has extended its blood thirsty taste for wanton destruction into Iran in cahoots with Donald Trump who claimed farcically that he attacked Iran because Iran was going to attack the United States.

In other news, oil is now more than $100 a barrel, with devastating consequences for the global economy. Thanks to Trump and Netanyahu.
And Mojtaba Khamenei, the son of the late Ali Khamenei, has been appointed Supreme Leader of Iran in defiance of Donald Trump. In addition to his father, they killed his mother, his wife, his child and other relatives. He will exact revenge, one way or another.
Clearly if they had to confiscate uranium, its because the Iranians did what they wanted (preparing a nuclear weapon) and not what they agreed to do. This started in 1983 after Khomeini came in power and everyone saw that they couldn't be trusted. They still can't be trusted as they continue to enrich towards nuclear weapons. CIA is trying to find where the enriched uranium is as Iran can still use it. I for one am happy to pay a little more for gas if they bomb the shit out of the ayatollahs and the Basij, the Muslim Black shirts.

Israel did right to defend themselves and fight back and any civilian deaths are on the head of hamas and all those that supported them. Every year hamas was bombing Israel with thousand of rockets that hit everywhere including civilians, it had to stop. No country is going to let Islamic terrorists bomb them continually. Hopefully the US and Israel will get rid of the new ayatollah that murdered thousands of Persian people that were protesting in the streets, the mullahs are barbarians. Any of those Muslim extremist groups or countries are barbarian, the sooner they get rid of them the better for the whole world. Now even Qatar told the Americans they're getting rid of hamas as they betrayed them by aligning with Iran over them, after billions they gave them.
 

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Clearly if they had to confiscate uranium, its because the Iranians did what they wanted (preparing a nuclear weapon) and not what they agreed to do. This started in 1983 after Khomeini came in power and everyone saw that they couldn't be trusted. They still can't be trusted as they continue to enrich towards nuclear weapons. CIA is trying to find where the enriched uranium is as Iran can still use it. I for one am happy to pay a little more for gas if they bomb the shit out of the ayatollahs and the Basij, the Muslim Black shirts.

Israel did right to defend themselves and fight back and any civilian deaths are on the head of hamas and all those that supported them. Every year hamas was bombing Israel with thousand of rockets that hit everywhere including civilians, it had to stop. No country is going to let Islamic terrorists bomb them continually. Hopefully the US and Israel will get rid of the new ayatollah that murdered thousands of Persian people that were protesting in the streets, the mullahs are barbarians. Any of those Muslim extremist groups or countries are barbarian, the sooner they get rid of them the better for the whole world. Now even Qatar told the Americans they're getting rid of hamas as they betrayed them by aligning with Iran over them, after billions they gave them.
Well, Trump is singing a different tune now. After saying at the beginning of the attack on Iran that it could last 4-5 weeks, he is now saying it will be over very soon. See, he thought Iran was going to be like Venezuela, an easy victory. But with oil and gas production shut down among his Gulf allies, the Straight of Hormuz effectively closed to passage of 20% of the world's oil, oil and gas prices shooting up and markets in free fall, Trump realizes he has bitten off more than he can chew and is scaling back the attack and his rhetoric.

I am not a friend of Iran. But they have showed the world the US and Israel are paper tigers. Scared to launch a ground operation and failing abysmally to escort ships through the Hormuz as Trump had promised, the US and Israel will leave a damaged Iran poised to rebuild and return stronger than ever with Mojtaba Khamenei plotting revenge for the slaughter of his father, his mother, his wife, his sister, his daughter and other members of his family. And that revenge will take the form of Iran accelerating to build a nuclear weapon so they can never be attacked like this ever again. It will take about 10 years. But they will do it, thanks to the stupidity of Donald Trump and Benjamin "War Criminal" Netanyahu.

Oh, you seem okay with the victims of a holocaust and the slaughter of 1200 perpetrating genocide against a population of 2 million. Sad
 

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Clearly if they had to confiscate uranium, its because the Iranians did what they wanted (preparing a nuclear weapon) and not what they agreed to do. This started in 1983 after Khomeini came in power and everyone saw that they couldn't be trusted. They still can't be trusted as they continue to enrich towards nuclear weapons. CIA is trying to find where the enriched uranium is as Iran can still use it. I for one am happy to pay a little more for gas if they bomb the shit out of the ayatollahs and the Basij, the Muslim Black shirts.

Israel did right to defend themselves and fight back and any civilian deaths are on the head of hamas and all those that supported them. Every year hamas was bombing Israel with thousand of rockets that hit everywhere including civilians, it had to stop. No country is going to let Islamic terrorists bomb them continually. Hopefully the US and Israel will get rid of the new ayatollah that murdered thousands of Persian people that were protesting in the streets, the mullahs are barbarians. Any of those Muslim extremist groups or countries are barbarian, the sooner they get rid of them the better for the whole world. Now even Qatar told the Americans they're getting rid of hamas as they betrayed them by aligning with Iran over them, after billions they gave them.
trump tore up the JCPOA to justify war.
Netanyahu waited 40 years to get a president stupid enough to attack and got one stupid enough to not plan for war as a bonus.

Iran now will stop when they think both Israel and america can never do this again.

 

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Clearly if they had to confiscate uranium, its because the Iranians did what they wanted (preparing a nuclear weapon) and not what they agreed to do. This started in 1983 after Khomeini came in power and everyone saw that they couldn't be trusted. They still can't be trusted as they continue to enrich towards nuclear weapons. CIA is trying to find where the enriched uranium is as Iran can still use it. I for one am happy to pay a little more for gas if they bomb the shit out of the ayatollahs and the Basij, the Muslim Black shirts.

Israel did right to defend themselves and fight back and any civilian deaths are on the head of hamas and all those that supported them. Every year hamas was bombing Israel with thousand of rockets that hit everywhere including civilians, it had to stop. No country is going to let Islamic terrorists bomb them continually. Hopefully the US and Israel will get rid of the new ayatollah that murdered thousands of Persian people that were protesting in the streets, the mullahs are barbarians. Any of those Muslim extremist groups or countries are barbarian, the sooner they get rid of them the better for the whole world. Now even Qatar told the Americans they're getting rid of hamas as they betrayed them by aligning with Iran over them, after billions they gave them.

US Tomahawk missile struck an IRGC compound close to the girls' school. The US was clearly responsible for the slaughter of 165 innocent children. For what?
 

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US Tomahawk missile struck an IRGC compound close to the girls' school. The US was clearly responsible for the slaughter of 165 innocent children. For what?
To mark his place in history as a child killing, child raping, felon.

 

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The US and Israel are indeed the problem.
They thought bombing Iran would somehow lead to the overthrow of the government. It wont happen. So then what? Destroy the whole country?
Meanwhile, rising oil price is causing real damage globally
This is Trump's style as president. Act on a whim with no clear plan or rational thought, fuck it up and then try to walk it back or blame someone else for his stupidity. The issue here is that there was no real goal (regime change? how?) and no exit strategy. And, it's going to cost the US billions in weapons, fuel inflation, the lives of probably hundreds of troops, thousands of Iranian civilians and burn up any goodwill the US ever had left.

I know we all probably think the death of Khamenei is probably not a bad thing. Fuck that guy. But now his son is the supreme leader. And, lord knows he probably won't be a reformist....
 

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This is Trump's style as president. Act on a whim with no clear plan or rational thought, fuck it up and then try to walk it back or blame someone else for his stupidity. The issue here is that there was no real goal (regime change? how?) and no exit strategy. And, it's going to cost the US billions in weapons, fuel inflation, the lives of probably hundreds of troops, thousands of Iranian civilians and burn up any goodwill the US ever had left.

I know we all probably think the death of Khamenei is probably not a bad thing. Fuck that guy. But now his son is the supreme leader. And, lord knows he probably won't be a reformist....
Mojtaba Khamenei, the new Supreme Leader of Iran. They killed his father. They killed his mother. They killed his wife. They killed his daughter. They killed his sister. And they killed more of his relatives. He will be plotting to exact revenge every day he is awake!
 

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'CHAOS': Rand Paul TEARS into Trump’s Iran war logic

I'm liking Mr. Paul. He's become a big, massive hemorrhoid in Trump's fat ass.

@WyattEarp , your thoughts on Mr. Paul's version of events? Is he a Rino? Is he wrong?
 

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I call them cowards for bombing gulf countries that are not weaponized, but they won't bomb Turkey that is armed to the teeth and has one of the biggest armies of the world.

They still don't know how the school got bombed if this story is true. Some say the Iranians admitted one of the rockets fell down backwards. But if it was hit by the US for sure it was not intentional, they have no interest to bomb a school. But these things happen in wars.
you do realize that the IRGC and their fanboys here will cling to that claim until the end of this conflict...If you look further...they will ignore the fact that the "school" was inside the compound of the IRGC where the Mullahs also held meetings. They will ignore the fact that these claims are also fed to the media by...you guessed it...the state run media also controlled by the IRGC.they will believe everything just becuase it's hard to swallow the pill that is Donald Trump might have the biggest achievement of a POTUS in the past 50 years....that's scary to any liberal.
 
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you do realize that the IRGC and their fanboys here will cling to that claim until the end of this conflict...If you look further...they will ignore the fact that the "school" was inside the compound of the IRGC where the Mullahs also held meetings. They will ignore the fact that these claims are also fed to the media by...you guessed it...the state run media also controlled by the IRGC.they will believe everything just becuase it's hard to swallow the pill that is Donald Trump might have the biggest achievement of a POTUS in the past 50 years....that's scary to any liberal.
Now analysts are saying it was not a Tomahawk but a Iranian KH-55 that lost its way because of GPS jamming

 

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Building a school in the IRGC compound in itself is a war crime.
That's what they do, Khomeini's tunnels were under schools and clinics. All these Islamic extremists use civilians, same thing Hamas they hid weapons in UN schools and hamas headquarters were in hospitals.
 
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you do realize that the IRGC and their fanboys here will cling to that claim until the end of this conflict...If you look further...they will ignore the fact that the "school" was inside the compound of the IRGC where the Mullahs also held meetings. They will ignore the fact that these claims are also fed to the media by...you guessed it...the state run media also controlled by the IRGC.they will believe everything just becuase it's hard to swallow the pill that is Donald Trump might have the biggest achievement of a POTUS in the past 50 years....that's scary to any liberal.
So you're saying its ok to target and kill children.

ok

Not a surprise, you back the child rapist and the genocide he is buying.
But hey, here's another new evil you can back now too!
Chemical weapons on civilians.

 
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you do realize that the IRGC and their fanboys here will cling to that claim until the end of this conflict...If you look further...they will ignore the fact that the "school" was inside the compound of the IRGC where the Mullahs also held meetings. They will ignore the fact that these claims are also fed to the media by...you guessed it...the state run media also controlled by the IRGC.they will believe everything just becuase it's hard to swallow the pill that is Donald Trump might have the biggest achievement of a POTUS in the past 50 years....that's scary to any liberal.
The girls' school was walled off from the Asif Brigade of the IRGC. This has been confirmed by satellite imagery.
It was up to the US to ensure there were no civilian institutions nearby. Especially since they are not intimately familiar with the terrain. It was an honest mistake but still not excusable.

I mentioned earlier Obama struck a deal with Iran for unfettered access to nuclear facilities by the IAEA. The deal was working, according to the IAEA. Donald Trump ripped it up, saying it was the worst deal in history. His demand was that Iran should get rid of uranium enrichment completely, something no country can accept. He decided to bomb this time around when Iran did not accede to his outrageous demands.

Iran will be left in tatters when he stops bombing. But they will rebuild and they will build the bomb next time around so they will not be attacked at the whim of a crazy guy and a war criminal. See North Korea.
 
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