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southpaw

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Will you care if gas prices double and inflation hits 15%?
Yes of course, that affects us. All the more reason not to support Israel's wars.

I'm like the Israelis. I only care about my own country.
 

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Yes of course, that affects us. All the more reason not to support Israel's wars.

I'm like the Israelis. I only care about my own country.
Well then perhaps you should care about other wars because they ALL have collateral effects that eventually will affect you
 

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Well then perhaps you should care about other wars because they ALL have collateral effects that eventually will affect you
All of them? Rwanda? Sudan? Ethiopia? Yemen? Kashmir? Haiti? Mexico? Venezuela?

How about Ukraine and Israel? I'm at peak don't give a fuck.
 
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How so? I want us to disengage from them, because I don't care about them. Disengage and ill have no reason to post.

how so ?
you want me and Canada to disengage from Israel as a condition for you to stop positing about Israel

Disengage from Israel. I'll stop posting about it.

so this was completely disingenuous then

But why should I care? What's Israel to me? Just another country in the desert.
you can stop posting about Israel, completely independent of mine or Canada's engagement with Israel

after all, why should you care? What's Israel to you? Just another country in the desert.

Israel has been an ally to Canada long before you were born
Canada's position is that Israel has a right to exist and a right to defend its citizens


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Canada’s long-standing position is that Iran must never be allowed to obtain or develop nuclear weapons
. Consistently supporting the U.S. and international efforts to prevent Iranian nuclear proliferation, Canada views the regime as a major source of regional instability and has supported sanctions, this government announcement says
i do not give a rats ass about Chad, Luxemburg, or Paraguay and that is not conditional on anyone else's engagement
i just don't post about those countries


you can not place conditions on others in order for you to be genuinely uninterested
that is absurd
 
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southpaw

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you can not place conditions on others in order for you to be genuinely uninterested
that is absurd
I'm not placing conditions on you. You want to support Israel, that's your prerogative. Same with whoever supports the Palestinians. I want the Canadian government out of it. As a voter, I have that right.
 

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I'm not placing conditions on you. You want to support Israel, that's your prerogative. Same with whoever supports the Palestinians. I want the Canadian government out of it. As a voter, I have that right.

not if you are genuinely disinterested
But why should I care? What's Israel to me? Just another country in the desert.
it is bazaar that you do not understand this

the Canadian governments position is very clear, long standing and not going to change

You want to support Israel, that's your prerogative.
do not confuse my desire for a peaceful middle east with anything else
do not confuse my desire to keep religious fanatics from acquiring nuclear weapons with anything else
like any other state Israel has a right to exist and protect its citizens

the explicit objective to eliminate the state of Israel is a non starter
as long as Hamas, Palestinians and Iran continue to maintain that position and it really does not matter what you want the Canadian Government to do
 

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not if you are genuinely disinterested

it is bazaar that you do not understand this

the Canadian governments position is very clear, long standing and not going to change



do not confuse my desire for a peaceful middle east with anything else
do not confuse my desire to keep religious fanatics from acquiring nuclear weapons with anything else
like any other state Israel has a right to exist and protect its citizens

the explicit objective to eliminate the state of Israel is a non starter
as long as Hamas, Palestinians and Iran continue to maintain that position and it really does not matter what you want the Canadian Government to do
Yes, yes, yes, Israel, Israel, Israel, blah, blah, blah ...
 
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do not confuse my desire for a peaceful middle east with anything else
do not confuse my desire to keep religious fanatics from acquiring nuclear weapons with anything else
like any other state Israel has a right to exist and protect its citizens

the explicit objective to eliminate the state of Israel is a non starter
as long as Hamas, Palestinians and Iran continue to maintain that position and it really does not matter what you want the Canadian Government to do
The only fanatics with nukes are Netanyahu and trump.
 

JohnLarue

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Yes, yes, yes, Israel, Israel, Israel, blah, blah, blah ...

now that is the waving of the white flag if ever there was one

you are upset that you got hog tied by your own words

embarrassing for you for sure but really , why should you care? What's Israel to you? Just another country in the desert.
 

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now that is the waving of the white flag if ever there was one

you are upset that you got hog tied by your own words

embarrassing for you for sure but really , why should you care? What's Israel to you? Just another country in the desert.
Its a country that is funded by american taxpayers.
americans without health care are paying for free healthcare for Israelis.
They are paying to kill children in Gaza, bomb Lebanon and attack Iran.

This is what american taxpayers bought.

 

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All of them? Rwanda? Sudan? Ethiopia? Yemen? Kashmir? Haiti? Mexico? Venezuela?

How about Ukraine and Israel? I'm at peak don't give a fuck.
they all affect you yes. But some more then others. This one, if it goes on will affect us big time. It may actually be good for Canada in the long run. If oil infrastructure is destroyed in the gulf, oil will be $250 a bbl for at least 3 years, So the CAD will be sky high and massive investments will be made in Canada..but gas will probably be over $2 a liter and inflation will be 8-10% maybe more. But increasing trade with China and India may help mitigate that.
 

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embarrassing for you for sure but really , why should you care? What's Israel to you? Just another country in the desert.
This is a waste of time. You have your reasons for giving preferential treatment to one tiny foreign country, over all the others in that region.

I don't share those reasons. I only give preferential treatment to the country I live and pay taxes in.
 

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This is a waste of time. You have your reasons for giving preferential treatment to one tiny foreign country, over all the others in that region.

I don't share those reasons. I only give preferential treatment to the country I live and pay taxes in.
you have a reading comprehension problem

do not confuse my desire for a peaceful middle east with anything else
do not confuse my desire to keep religious fanatics from acquiring nuclear weapons with anything else
like any other sovereign state Israel has a right to exist and protect its citizens

preferential treatment ????
That is ridiculous


This is a waste of time
you are the one who insisted on inserting Israel into a thread about Cuba and then claimed you have zero interest in Israel, conditional upon the Canadian Govt changing its long standing position on Israel
now you are whining this is a waste of time

What did you expect when you staked out such a ridiculous self contradicting position ?

Did you really think you could fool anyone by substituting your hatred of Israel with fake disingenuous disinterest ?
disinterest conditional upon a Govt policy reversal ???????
 
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southpaw

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do not confuse my desire to keep religious fanatics from acquiring nuclear weapons with anything else

preferential treatment ????
Israel is run by religious fanatics, and they have nuclear weapons. But Iran must be stopped from having them. Is that not preferential treatment?
 

JohnLarue

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Israel is run by religious fanatics, and they have nuclear weapons. But Iran must be stopped from having them. Is that not preferential treatment?
no
the objective is not to ensure equality of nuclear weapons (a ridiculously naive objective)
the objective is to reduce the risks of nuclear weapons being used

Despite being surrounded by enemies who want the elimination of their state and despite repeated attacks on their civilians Israel has not used their nuclear weapons

Are you incapable of understanding the fact Israel will use their nukes if their elimination is truly threatened ?
They will light up Tehran before allowing Iran to obtain nuclear weapons and that is not religious fanaticism , that is just self preservation and survival


Iran does not need Nuclear weapons to survive
All it needs is to stop seeking the elimination of Israel
 

southpaw

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They will light up Tehran before allowing Iran to obtain nuclear weapons and that is not religious fanaticism , that is just self preservation and survival
So let them. They have a right to self preservation. I don't see why the west should be involved.

If North Korea nukes Japan, or Ukraine nukes Russia, or Pakistan nukes India, we shouldn't be involved either.
 

JohnLarue

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So let them. They have a right to self preservation. I don't see why the west should be involved.
because nuclear war is preventable

If North Korea nukes Japan, or Ukraine nukes Russia, or Pakistan nukes India, we shouldn't be involved either.
you are unbelievably naive to believe you wont be adversely impacted by any nuclear conflict
 
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