2025-2026 Leafs Season
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McMann absolute minimum was a 2nd rounder. I was thinking 2nd and a 3rd would be the best case return that was reasonable. A 1st is not reasonable. It would require a team to be desperate and overpay and no team wanted to overpay.
So I suppose a 2nd and a 4th is precisely that. Not a 1st so not great and not just a second so not terrible.
2nd and a 3rd would have been better and it was reasonable. Seattle though traded their 3rd round pick for Mason Marchment.
So I suppose a 2nd and a 4th is precisely that. Not a 1st so not great and not just a second so not terrible.
2nd and a 3rd would have been better and it was reasonable. Seattle though traded their 3rd round pick for Mason Marchment.
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The optics are not good for Laughton being traded for a 3rd (a 2nd if LA makes the playoffs) but Leafs overpaid for him to begin with. However, if Leafs are somehow able to resign him in free agency to a reasonable contract then all will be good.
Bonus if LA makes the playoffs and wipes out Edmonton as punishment for not overpaying for McMann.
Laughton had term when theLeafs traded for him though and wasn't a ufa like he is now so there's that also.
Leafs did the right thing with OEL. Trade him only if a team is willing to overpay. Otherwise Leafs can definitely use him for next season and following. They can always trade him next season if it goes haywire as well. The D to offload somehow is Rielly in the offseason. That alone would improve the D.
Bonus if LA makes the playoffs and wipes out Edmonton as punishment for not overpaying for McMann.
Laughton had term when theLeafs traded for him though and wasn't a ufa like he is now so there's that also.
Leafs did the right thing with OEL. Trade him only if a team is willing to overpay. Otherwise Leafs can definitely use him for next season and following. They can always trade him next season if it goes haywire as well. The D to offload somehow is Rielly in the offseason. That alone would improve the D.
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I always thought a little more ruggedness/truculence was needed in McMann’s game. Finally in his contract year he has added that and it has helped him to be a better player. My guess is that he’ll probably get between 3.5 to 4.5m per as an ufa depending on the term and how he plays for Seattle.
I was always impressed when McMann played at the upper level of his game, unfortunately there wasn't enough consistency to
consider him a valuable asset. The Leafs are so lacking in quality of depth that when a player shows glimmers of being impactful we tend to overvalue his worth.
I.e. Domi, when he's on his game, he's a very impressive player, but those games are few and far in between.
When you've been around as long as McMann has, the contract year is less important than the entire body of work, unlike a young player who may be having his breakout season.
Treliving has received a lot of praises for the Roy trade and I like it a lot too. Some even labeled it as a home run. If that’s so, he should also be blamed for giving up two grand slams in the Carlos and Laughton trades. Sure both Carlos and Laughton had terms on their contracts then, but so does OEL and no other gms have come even close to offering what Treliving gave up or OEL would have been traded. IMO OEL is a better player than both Carlos and Laughton but no other GM was stupid enough to repeat Treliving’s mistakes.
He has been getting destroyed for that deal for about 4 months now, especially when the consequences became clear with this poor season. Today doesn't change it.
Edmonton has no assets to overpay for McMann and he fills the least of their needs. Just because Leafs media says he'd be a good fit with the Oilers doesn't mean they were ever interested in him. Seeing what the Capitals received from Vegas for Nic Dowd I have a feeling Treliving's asking price for Laughton was way too high so teams interested in him went another way. As for OEL I see your point but his stock is high right now and based on his age I don't see it rising in the coming years. He has 2 years left on a good deal for the Leafs but he's also 34 years. I read a rumor that his wife is due to give birth in a couple of weeks and he does have a limited no trade so maybe that had something to do with it. I still think they should've sent Domi packing with 50% retained for any offer they could get. Then again much like his old man only the Leafs are dumb enough to keep him around.
Number 5 is the Rangers. Leafs are 9 pts up and Rangers have 2 games in hand.
I suppose it's doable. It certainly helped that Leafs lost that 4 point game.
Rangers aren't a very good team. That's asking a lot from them to win some games.
There's also a risk of not quite getting there and finishing 6th
If they somehow got to 5th they can also get jumped by the lottery and pushed back.
You do know if they miraculous do end up with the 5th that would make the 2028 pick unprotected.
Imagine giving Boston a top 2 pick right at the start of their full rebuild.
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Don't know who this Jason Dickenson is but the Oilers gave up a conditional 1st for him in a package deal so they were definitely buying and willing to pay. If the Leafs were looking to tank next season then definitely it was an epic failure not trading OEL but the Leafs are not in that state. Leafs overpaid for Laughton when they traded for him so obviously they over-value him. Flyers put him in a better position to shine. Leafs put him on the 4th line playing limited minutes. He excelled on the penalty kill. More than likely that's why LA traded for him. There's no way Laughton is worth a 1st. Only Leafs would pay that price.
I highly doubt there was any interest in Domi even at 50% retained. Kampf got a 6th round pick for Vancouver.
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You do know that trade was more about Mangiapane's contract than it was about adding Dickeson to the roster. I agree there's no interest in Domi which shows how dumb the Leafs really are for signing him.
Has more to do with how the lottery balls fall than the Leafs fall. Islanders jumped 8 spots to land Shaefer.
yes, that's why I said "package" and not outright Dickenson for a 1st but the point was Edmonton was going for it and sure thing they were buying and willing to trade their 1st. That was really my original point. That McDavid did not take a discount signing for only 2 years not to. Quite probably Leafs would have had to take on Mangiapane as well and they didn't want to go there.
Do you know for sure the wanted McMann or are you just believing the click bait from Idiot Friedman.
I find it interesting that no team is giving out top 5 protected as a condition. It's all top 10. Treliving really mangled that one and every GM recognizes that. Even Colorado who is having a blistering successful season. That's a message that it should never happen again. Top 10 would have been easily attainable this season and to go as low as possible with no repurcussions.
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I'm not an insider. I'm not saying they did or didn't. I'm saying it's likely based on what happened. Edmonton needed Mangiapane out. They traded their 1st. They picked up someone no one knows who he is and Dickensoon is 30. Do you know for certain they didn't? I'd say it's certain that Leafs had discussions with Edmonton and I wasn't there. Every team is a customer. Particularly those who are known going for it and Edmonton is on the top of the list in that category. I wasn't there but likely OEL, Roy, Laughton were also pitched or at least should be.
As for Domi I don't see any contending team wanting anything to do with him and that's what it's all about at trade deadline. Playoffs is about tight checking and Domi is the epitome of lack of defensive awareness. Similar to Rielly they'll need to offload him in the offseason somehow and ideally Treliving isn't the one to be doing it since he's more likely the one that would want to keep him.
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