War with Iran

Shaquille Oatmeal · Mar 6, 2026

MorningWoodGlory22 said:
Regimes were changed by warfare. Successfully.

No they are not.
Regime change wars often do not succeed and are pointless and do not lead to good outcomes.

MorningWoodGlory22 said:
Cite your source for that statistic.

GAMAAN. It's infact over 85% opposition.

MorningWoodGlory22 said:
Wrong. These are verified accounts featuring real people, like gorgeous Iranian baddie Moone Rahimi. And it's obvious that the millions of Iranians that have been rioting for the last four years also have social media accounts.

Yes, millions have been protesting but barring a few, a vast majority of accounts cannot be verified as legitimate.

MorningWoodGlory22 said:
All that matters is the effect on the Iranian people and whether they support it - which they do.

And they don't. They do not support US military action.
Which is unrelated to the purpose of the war in Iran, which is not freedoms for the people but to benefit Israel and to distract from the Epstein files.
These are the only things that are relevant.

richaceg · Mar 6, 2026

Shaquille Oatmeal said:
Yes, and I am not physically involved in stopping ICE from doing so unlike the US that is spending $11,500 per minute of tax payer money to wage a war on Israel's behalf and distract from the Epstein files.

You personally don't. US have international interests they need to protect. You don't own consulate offices in the states to really feel threatened by the US government...unlike US who have to protect it's embassies and envoys. what's in those Epstein files that are there that wasn't there during the Biden term?

MorningWoodGlory22 · Mar 6, 2026

Shaquille Oatmeal said:
No they are not.
Regime change wars often do not succeed and are pointless and do not lead to good outcomes.

I gave you four examples that succeeded and you only have like three Arab ones that failed.

Shaquille Oatmeal said:
GAMAAN.

Bullshit there's no such GAMAAN poll. Whereas the one I cited is clearly real

Shaquille Oatmeal said:
Yes, millions have been protesting but barring a few, a vast majority of accounts cannot be verified as legitimate.

Nope, most are real. Those same rioters are posting on Twitter. And so are ex-pats.

Shaquille Oatmeal said:
And they don't. They do not support US military action.

Yes they do.

Shaquille Oatmeal said:
Which is unrelated to the purpose of the war in Iran, which is not freedoms for the people but to benefit Israel and to distract from the Epstein files.
These are the only things that are relevant.

The purpose is irrelevant. Only the result and will of the Iranian people matter.

Shaquille Oatmeal · Mar 6, 2026

richaceg said:
US have international interests they need to protect.

Yet it is not in US interests that they started this war, but in Israel's interest and in the interests of powerful pedophiles.

Butler1000 · Mar 6, 2026

MorningWoodGlory22 said:
Irrelevant. Regimes were changed by warfare. Successfully.

Cite your source for that statistic.

Wrong. These are verified accounts featuring real people, like gorgeous Iranian baddie Moone Rahimi. And it's obvious that the millions of Iranians that have been rioting for the last four years also have social media accounts.

All irrelevant. All that matters is the effect on the Iranian people and whether they support it - which they do.

They were successful AFTER THE MARSHAL PLAN. Are you prepared to pay that cost? As well after a total ground war, no quarter, no rules(look up what really happened). It also ended up with Germany divided for decades, the rise of the Soviet Union, the Cold War.......

How many American Service men and woman are you prepared to sacrifice in those mountains, entrenched bunkers, to root out all the fighters?

And Japan? That ended with the Atomic Bomb drops? You going to drop right beside Russia and India?

richaceg · Mar 6, 2026

Shaquille Oatmeal said:
Yet it is not in US interests that they started this war, but in Israel's interest and in the interests of powerful pedophiles.

How could it not be the US interest if they have consulates and business partners in the area? Just accept the fact. Iran got caught building nukes, still trying to build nukes and Trump is the only president who's not playing their reindeer games...

Shaquille Oatmeal · Mar 6, 2026

MorningWoodGlory22 said:
I gave you four examples that succeeded and you only have like three Arab ones that failed.

Yes you gave me 4 irrelevant examples.

MorningWoodGlory22 said:
Bullshit there's no such GAMAAN poll. Whereas the one I cited is clearly real

LOL. A poll from 2020.
It's 2026 fella.
And while there is no poll from inside Iran possible at this time, some diaspora Iranians have made comments on it:

The United States shouldn't have acted while diplomatic negotiations were still underway, said Jamal Abdi, president of the National Iranian American Council (NIAC), a Washington, DC-based organization that supports diplomacy and improving American relations with Iran.
“We are outraged by the decision to launch military strikes on Iran, at the very moment diplomacy was active and reportedly making progress,” Abdi said in a statement. “There has been no evidence of imminent attack from Iran that would justify bombing Tehran in broad daylight.”
The Council on American-Islamic Relations, the nation’s largest Muslim civil rights and advocacy organization, encouraged Americans to contact the White House and their members of Congress to demand an end to the Trump administration's “unnecessary, unjustified, and unconstitutional" strikes against Iran "for Israel's benefit."
"The Trump administration has completed its transformation into the Bush administration by starting another unnecessary, unjustified and unconstitutional regime-change war in the Middle East under pressure from the Israeli government and its supporters," the CAIR statement said.

Also, here is their opinion on the 12 day war - per GAMAAN.

Regarding reactions to war events and consequences, a majority (73%) said they were deeply upset by civilian casualties. Other events that provoked strong distress included “direct attacks on Iranian territory” (46%), “killing of nuclear scientists” (30%), and the “attack on Evin Prison” (27%). About one-fifth of the population was also distressed by the “destruction of nuclear facilities” (22%) and the “killing of military commanders” (20%). The event that evoked the least emotional impact was the “attack on the state broadcaster (IRIB)”, upsetting only 15% of respondents.

As you can see, their grievances with civilian casualties, attacking Iran, will galvanize Persian nationalism and turn them against the west.

MorningWoodGlory22 said:
Nope, most are real.

No, they are not verifiable.

MorningWoodGlory22 said:
Yes they do.

No they dont. See above.

MorningWoodGlory22 said:
The purpose is irrelevant. Only the result and will of the Iranian people matter.

The purpose determines the actions and consequently the results.
It is the only thing that matters.

Shaquille Oatmeal · Mar 6, 2026

richaceg said:
How could it not be the US interest if they have consulates and business partners in the area? Just accept the fact. Iran got caught building nukes, still trying to build nukes and Trump is the only president who's not playing their reindeer games...

Iran doesn't have nukes and has never had nukes.
The IAEA even called them compliant up until the JCPOA was torn up by Trump for no reason.
And it isn't so much in US interests, it is that the US was inevitably dog walked into the war by Israel.

richaceg · Mar 6, 2026

Shaquille Oatmeal said:
Iran doesn't have nukes and has never had nukes.
The IAEA even called them compliant up until the JCPOA was torn up by Trump for no reason.
And it isn't so much in US interests, it is that the US was inevitably dog walked into the war by Israel.

Iran don't have nukes...their dreams just got shattered...

Klatuu · Mar 6, 2026

MorningWoodGlory22 said:
Doesn't seem to be the case. Support for the war is high among Iranians and Israel & the US are targeting military objectives.

‘Please provide a link to your source

Klatuu · Mar 6, 2026

What happens when dictionaries don’t matter

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2029986779206480070

Klatuu · Mar 6, 2026

Just pondering

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2029986489388466250

MorningWoodGlory22 · Mar 6, 2026

Shaquille Oatmeal said:
Yes you gave me 4 irrelevant examples.

All literally relevant and directly debunked your claim of none being successful.

Shaquille Oatmeal said:
LOL. A poll from 2020.
It's 2026 fella.

As if meaningful shifts in religious demographics happen within six years? LMAO!

Shaquille Oatmeal said:
And while there is no poll from inside Iran possible at this time, some diaspora Iranians have made comments on it:
" The United States shouldn't have acted while diplomatic negotiations were still underway, said Jamal Abdi, president of the National Iranian American Council (NIAC), a Washington, DC-based organization that supports diplomacy and improving American relations with Iran."

"The National Iranian American Council (NIAC; Persian: شورای ملی ایرانیان آمریکا) is a lobbying group widely viewed as the de facto "Iran Lobby" in Washington, D.C., due to its history of lobbying for stances on behalf of, and aligned with, the Islamic Republic of Iran" LMAO! No shit an Iranian regime lobbyist group is going be against the war HAHA! That's not representative of the Iranian people at all.

Shaquille Oatmeal said:
The Council on American-Islamic Relations, the nation’s largest Muslim civil rights and advocacy organization, encouraged Americans to contact the White House and their members of Congress to demand an end to the Trump administration's “unnecessary, unjustified, and unconstitutional" strikes against Iran "for Israel's benefit."

CAIR is Sunni and the Sunni's support the Islamic Regime cuz of Pallywood.

Shaquille Oatmeal said:
Also, here is their opinion on the 12 day war - per GAMAAN.

Regarding reactions to war events and consequences, a majority (73%) said they were deeply upset by civilian casualties. Other events that provoked strong distress included “direct attacks on Iranian territory” (46%), “killing of nuclear scientists” (30%), and the “attack on Evin Prison” (27%). About one-fifth of the population was also distressed by the “destruction of nuclear facilities” (22%) and the “killing of military commanders” (20%). The event that evoked the least emotional impact was the “attack on the state broadcaster (IRIB)”, upsetting only 15% of respondents.

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As you can see, their grievances with civilian casualties, attacking Iran, will galvanize Persian nationalism and turn them against the west.

LMAO! Your own source destroys you:

"About 44% of the population held the Islamic Republic of Iran responsible for starting the war, while 33% blamed Israel for initiating it, and 16% believed that both sides were equally at fault. More than half of the population (51%) believed that Israel was successful and achieved its objectives in the 12-Day War. In contrast, 16% thought the Islamic Republic had been more successful, while 19% said neither side had reached its goals. Among emotions experienced during the war, “anger at the Islamic Republic” ranked highest, reported by 42% of the population. Next were “worry about the future” (38%), “anger at Israel” (30%), “hope for the future” (27%), “fear of [one’s own] death or losing loved ones” (21%), and “grief and mourning” for those killed in the war (17%)."

The whole report is about how the Iranians hold the ISLAMIC REGIME responsible, not Israel LMAO! And of course they're upset about civilian casualties, who wouldn't be? That doesn't mean they don't support the war to oust the regime. The Islamic Regime has killed far more Iranian civilians than Israel or the US ever did.

Iranians’ Attitudes Toward the 12-Day War – Gamaan

gamaan.org

Shaquille Oatmeal said:
No, they are not verifiable.

Yes, they are verifiable and I even gave you an example with Moone Rahimi

Shaquille Oatmeal said:
No they dont. See above.

Yes they do. See above.

Shaquille Oatmeal said:
The purpose determines the actions and consequently the results.
It is the only thing that matters.

No, the actions and consequences are the same regardless of the purpose. The Iranian regime falls and the Iranian people are cheering in support of freedom. That's all that matters.

Shaquille Oatmeal · Mar 6, 2026

Intrinsic said:
I'm just making sure the left gets a fair chance of getting their share of the lies and bs, just as the right is guilty.
You're a die hard leftie. Let's leave it at that.
You're absolutely not right all of the time, that's evident.
lol

The fact that I am a leftie is not a secret.
However, I did not make a partisan comment, you did that.
You are a diehard rightie, lets just leave it at that.
No I didn't say I am right all the time. I said I am right more times than you. lmfao.

Shaquille Oatmeal · Mar 6, 2026

richaceg said:
Iran don't have nukes..

Exactly. And they never did. Which is why this war is illegal and unnecessary.

Shaquille Oatmeal · Mar 6, 2026

MorningWoodGlory22 said:
All literally relevant and directly debunked your claim of none being successful.

It is literally irrelevant because 2 of them were not regime change wars and the other 2 were previous democracies unlike many in the middle east.

MorningWoodGlory22 said:
As if meaningful shifts in religious demographics happen within six years? LMAO!

It is not religious demographics. It was personal beliefs.
I am a catholic who is non-practicing. I am still a catholic, but religion doesn't matter to me.
Those are different things.

MorningWoodGlory22 said:
"The National Iranian American Council (NIAC; Persian: شورای ملی ایرانیان آمریکا) is a lobbying group widely viewed as the de facto "Iran Lobby" in Washington, D.C., due to its history of lobbying for stances on behalf of, and aligned with, the Islamic Republic of Iran" LMAO! No shit an Iranian regime lobbyist group is going be against the war HAHA! That's not representative of the Iranian people at all.

And 20% of Iran are die hard supporters of the Islamic republic. So they do matter.

MorningWoodGlory22 said:
CAIR is Sunni and the Sunni's support the Islamic Regime cuz of Pallywood.

The Islamic regime is Shia, and yet they support Palestine.
So this statement is irrelevant.

MorningWoodGlory22 said:
"About 44% of the population held the Islamic Republic of Iran responsible for starting the war....

So 56%(the majority) don't hold the Islamic Republic responsible. LOL, you can't do math.

MorningWoodGlory22 said:
The whole report is about how the Iranians hold the ISLAMIC REGIME responsible, not Israel LMAO!

Yes, and the majority don't. lmfao.

MorningWoodGlory22 said:
Yes, they are verifiable and I even gave you an example with Moone Rahimi

That is ONE person. lmfao.

MorningWoodGlory22 said:
No, the actions and consequences are the same regardless of the purpose.

They are not the same.
The purpose defines what actions they take and that defines results.
And the results are not observed to be the same.

Shaquille Oatmeal · Mar 6, 2026

Intrinsic said:
I'm a die hard right when I criticize Trump??
Good Allah God you are not very bright.
I'll just leave this there for people to see how intelligent you are.

Nick Fuentes, a die hard right guy says "fuck trump". Doesn't make him liberal.
God, you are not very bright. Please leave it here so others can see how you humiliated yourself lmfao.

asuran · Mar 6, 2026

Intrinsic said:
And when the going was good he loved Trump, not me.
I have been consistent, quite a difference.

Consistently wrong, I must add.

richaceg · Mar 6, 2026

Shaquille Oatmeal said:
Exactly. And they never did. Which is why this war is illegal and unnecessary.

they tried and got Dkembed...or Mutombo-ed....

MorningWoodGlory22 · Mar 6, 2026

Shaquille Oatmeal said:
So 56%(the majority) don't hold the Islamic Republic responsible. LOL, you can't do math.

Yes, and the majority don't. lmfao.

That's not how the remaining 56% broke down, I literally quoted it for you:

"About 44% of the population held the Islamic Republic of Iran responsible for starting the war, while 33% blamed Israel for initiating it, and 16% believed that both sides were equally at fault."

"Among emotions experienced during the war, “anger at the Islamic Republic” ranked highest, reported by 42% of the population. Next were “worry about the future” (38%), “anger at Israel” (30%),"

It's obvious you don't know what you're talking about and are now just lying and trolling. Doesn't matter because your side has lost. Iran is going to be free and it's women will be sexier than ever. Israeli women are already sexy. Pallywood is over

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