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Newsom calls israel an "Apartheid state"

richaceg

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Now imagine if your daughter was forced to go through checkpoints everyday when she went to school or had to walk along a separate street just because she was Jewish.
That is the hell Israel subjects the Palestinians to. On a good day.
That's what you see on the news....fed by the pro palestinian propagandists... which is just have ass information. You know why there are checkpoints in Israel? because they have been victims of suicide bombings for decades....but what am I doing...you don't even know how borders work. lmao.
 
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In Gaza, she'd be killed by Israel, for being Palestinian, whether or not she was gay.
Also are you saying Hamas executing gay people is justification for Israeli genocide of the Palestinians?
Nice twist on what I posted Shaq.

No wonder you usually lose your little debates in this forum... 🤣
 
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Nice twist on what I posted Shaq.
It is you that is twisting it by bringing in Hamas execution of gay people.
I asked you if Hamas' execution of gay people justifies genocide or prison like conditions in Gaza?
As usual you run away when you are trapped in an Israel debate lmfao.
 
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Since you admit there are checkpoints in Israel and since we actually have video documentation evidence of the hell Israel puts Palestinians through, this is just the truth, not propaganda.
Yeah...those checkpoints is to allow access to palestinians to enter Israel. You feel like everyone should have no borders to protect themselves...we also have borders here so Americans can't just walk in...
 
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It is you that is twisting it by bringing in Hamas execution of gay people.
I asked you if Hamas' execution of gay people justifies genocide or prison like conditions in Gaza?
As usual you run away when you are trapped in an Israel debate lmfao.
What has Hamas execution of gay people have to do with Hamas oppressing Palestinians?
 
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Yeah...those checkpoints is to allow access to palestinians to enter Israel. You feel like everyone should have no borders to protect themselves...we also have borders here so Americans can't just walk in...
It is not their borders. It is occupied territory and they have implemented segregatory policies, which is why it is called Apartheid.
 

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It is one and the same. How does that justify Israel's genocide?
So Shaq, maybe I missed it, but what is your ethnicity?

I have fully acknowledged that I am genetically a Jew, though an atheist.

That may account for any bias I have in this forum.

What about you?

You don't have to answer if it is an uncomfortable question...
 

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Also, she happens to be openly gay. Would she merely be put in prison in Gaza, or would she be thrown off a roof?

In Israel her sexual orientation is fully legal, and would be accepted by the general population, if not the ultra-orthodox Jews.

And she wouldn't be killed for it.
No she wouldn't.

Israel is doing the same to Gaza, Lebanon and Iran.
To argue they support human rights is insane.

 

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That's what you see on the news....fed by the pro palestinian propagandists... which is just have ass information. You know why there are checkpoints in Israel? because they have been victims of suicide bombings for decades....but what am I doing...you don't even know how borders work. lmao.
You admitted and justified apartheid.
This showed up on my feed and every post of yours makes it seem accurate.

 

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So Shaq, maybe I missed it, but what is your ethnicity?

I have fully acknowledged that I am genetically a Jew, though an atheist.

That may account for any bias I have in this forum.

What about you?

You don't have to answer if it is an uncomfortable question...
I am Caucasian. What does that have anything at all to do with my question?
By the way, Judaism is a religion. One cannot genetically be a Jew (or Christian, or Muslim or any other religion for that matter).
You said your origins were in Eastern Europe. So you are Caucasian. But let us not quibble over that little detail.
 

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I am Caucasian. What does that have anything at all to do with my question?
By the way, Judaism is a religion. One cannot genetically be a Jew (or Christian, or Muslim or any other religion for that matter).
You said your origins were in Eastern Europe. So you are Caucasian. But let us not quibble over that little detail.
Wrong again, Shaq.

According to the "23andme" DNA analysis company my Ancestry Composition is:

98.5% Ashkenazi Jewish
0.5% French & German
0.3% Siberian
0.3% Northern Asian
0.2% Iranian, Caucasian, and Mesopotamian
0.2% Unassigned

And they determined all that from a small sample of my saliva. Cool eh?

So, despite being an atheist, I have, all my life, considered myself to be a Jew.

I would imagine that most Muslims share a lot of common DNA exclusive to them, whether they practice their religion or not.

I would also imagine many Christians have much more variation in their ancestry DNA,

What it has to do with your question is that it may indicate bias, not that your bias isn't already self-evident... ;)
 
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98.5% Ashkenazi Jewish....
......What it has to do with your question is that it may indicate bias, not that your bias isn't already self-evident... ;)
So that shows that you are 98.5% Eastern European aka Caucasian. Ashkenazi Jews are primarily Eastern European which is what I said.
My question in case you forgot was, what has Hamas' oppression of Palestinians have to do with the Israeli genocide of the Palestinians?
One doesn't warrant the other and you don't seem to be able to address this question.
This is a discussion of facts, not feelings.
PS: What would be interesting to see is your DNA Haplogroup. There is a section in the 23andme results where it shows that. If you can screenshot and post that, it will be interesting to see as you'd be the first Ashkenazi Jewish person to show me their patrilineal and matrilineal DNA origins.
 
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