2026 NCAA March Madness Men's Basketball Tournament

onomatopoeia

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Point taken on Junior hockey -- I love the World Juniors, its some of the best, fastest hockey you're going to see. But you're also cheering on Canada, not some university. To me, the tribalism is 50% of the excitement.
Perhaps this is a better analogy.

During the Summer Olympics, most of the Swimming races are very exiting, and many people watch. Most of the viewers only care about Swimming during the Olympics. Many people will cheer for the second place athlete who is gaining on the leader, but might not have enough time to win. Most people won't remember the names of the winners the next day. CBC will focus on the Canadian in lane 7, fighting for the Wood medal.
 
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I'm talking about the actual tournament not NCAA in general. I agree with you that corporate greed has run amok and you cite examples of that. What I am saying is that, unlike in a NCAA College Football Bowl, players don't opt out. Furthermore, many of the schools in this tournament are mid majors or or smaller conferences where players aren't playing for an NBA deal, they are playing to win.
You are comparing apples and oranges in the bolded comment.

Football players that make the 12 team playoff do notdrop out .. just like players making the 68 team NCAA don't drop out..

But many NCAA basketall players will drop out of the NIT (which often forces their team to decline invites). The NIT is the equivalent of a regular bowl game, and both basketball and football players drop out of those.
 

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I'm genuinely asking. I cannot picture two guys from Toronto getting into a conversation like this:

"Ohio State rules, man!!!"

"Screw you, Let's go West Virginia Tech!!!"
Actually - you would be surprised. I don't watch a single college game during the season, but once March comes around and the madness is upon us - we have a collective of 20+ guys all join the ESPN March Madness Pool and we start talking trash. Once a year for a month but man is it ever fun and the pot is like close $1600 for the winner. We have been doing this close to 30 years and I have only won it once - 2019 Virginia. To be fair - one elimination game - great basketball each and every game. Once the bracket is finalized - for 3-4 days we are all in heavy research mode :ROFLMAO: .
 
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I don't bet on the NCAA tournament, but those who do might find it worthwhile to look at this site:


Many teams in NCAA Basketball have inflated records because they play the majority of their games at home and they often face substandard opposition prior to their Conference schedule, and they don't necessarily face stiff opposition in Conference. In some of the larger conferences, (there are currently eighteen teams in the Big Ten), some teams might not play against all teams in their Conference, or only once. Strength of schedule is a big factor in separating the Contenders from the pretenders.

How teams perform in Road and Neutral Site games is often a better indication of their real strength. If you search the Sports Forum for 'kenpom', I believe you will find positive endorsements of this site as a valuable tool in selecting one's bracket.

Here's one: https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/its-that-time-of-the-year-march-madness.107532/#post-1156501

(bobistheowl is my original TERB handle, 2003-17).
Love it - where do you find this stuff. Thanks @onomatopoeia !
 

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I read about kenpom in the Sporting News College Basketball Annual more than 20 years ago.

You can only hope that other members of your pool don't read the Sports forum on TERB.
Other members of my pool have no idea of this world :D .
 

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A lot of people don't understand how the Tournament seeding works, because they're used to 'NHL style' seeding, based on points scored.

The very high seeds, (14-16 in each bracket), are used for the teams which win the conference championship of small conferences. Often this is the best regular season team in these conferences, but not necessarily.

NCAA Men's Basketball Conference Standings

A conference like America East, ASUN or Ivy League isn't going to get any At Large bids, so if there is an upset in the conference final, the team who won will be in one of the four 'play in games', attempting to win a #16 seed.

The last slots to be filled are the #6 and #11 seeds, and two of the #11 seeds will join the field of 64 after winning a play in game.

#6 seeds are usually a semi-mediocre regular season team from a power conference, (perhaps the sixth best team in the Big 10), against an at large bid from a mid-range conference or the winner of a play in game.

There often seem to be upsets in the first round in the #5/#12 games. #5 seeds are always Al Large bids from power conferences. #12 seeds are almost always very good conference champions from mid level conferences.

#11 seed is actually the most difficult path to winning the bracket because if there are no upset games, #11 would have to defeat #6, #3, #2 and #1 in their bracket. The #16 seed has the most difficult task to win a Round 1 game, but if they do, their next opponent is an #8/#9 winner.
 

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I've been filling out NCAA brackets since high school. Every year without fail. There's a reason why they call it March Madness. Even non sports fans get into it.
 

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No one can still answer why Canadians should care about American college sports.

Do you think the Yankscum would care about our university sports?
no. americans don't watch canadian university sports - and generally, neither do Canadians..
no slight on our athletes or our system it's just the u.s. sports system is far superior.
its night and day and its basically a professional system and now athletes are being paid on top of their full schkirshios - some in the millions over college career.

We in Canada watch it because it's hern highly televised, pronoted and marketed as much as any sport by tge U.S. networks fir decades and its covered and packaged fir TV at an incredibly high level. Many choose watchuvf u.s. college foitballand basketball ahead of the NFL and NBA.
Canadians simply picked up on this decades ago by watching u.s. networks
it landed on our laps and we like it too...as there is often no better sporting option on a Saturday afternoon - or a Tuesday night fir that matter - and certainly nothing comparable in a Canadian televised sports event.
Canadian passion for it only grew and it is as big as ever today for fans of u.s. college hoops living in canada - let alone for Americans.
Its the next best thing ti the highest professional quality yet more passionate more fun. they play less games with more passion and intensity and the fans make it more exciting g(football and basketball)
Their crowds are massive and lively. It's an event in the stands...with full marching bands in the stands playing constantly acrobatic cheerleaders mascots and rabid college kids and old timers too.
Crowds of 90 and 100 thousand are connon in each week in some football stadiums 19 of the top 20 capacity stadiums in the world are u.s. colleage football stadiums.
The NCAA college basketball Final Four is played in a football stadium.
even women's basketball crowds are huge...and they had a 100 thousand for a college hockey game in Ann Arbour Michigan.
watching such events as Canadians is the same reason we imght watch British soccer leagues. its the best and far better than we have with dynamic crowds and and now social media groupie to be involved in(not my thing as i simply watch randomly now but its a huge community for many.)

Many of us up here get caught up on it at a young age and grew up watching u.s. college sports for many of the above reasons.
some dreaming of a u.s. scholarship and others simply dreaming more Canadians making it to U.S. college basketball and college football teams south of the border.
if there was a guy on the bench from Canada way back when it made us proud.
now after Amerucans there are more Canadians competing there than from any other country.
Canadians playing or not... people watch for the above reasons because the quality and spectacle backed by the promotion and marketing machine behind it that lures us in
and people gambled on it long before online betting.

We were also influenced by the only sports magazine worth reading - Sports Illustrated - as kids and as adults.
there was and is no Canadian equivalent.
The college stars of Basketball and Football graced the covers as much or more than the pros.
The top players were legendary- and future pros. Some were legendary in college - and still are - making themselves a houehold name among sports fans and yet didn't even make it to the pros

stars such as Larry Bird (Indiana state) and Magic Johnson (Michigan state) brought the college game to an even bigger level....and then to the NBA.
Until that game college basketball was far more popular than the NBA.
same with college football. the NFL started playing on Sunday because they couldn't compete with college football on Saturdays.
new years day bowl games were bigger than the super bowl at one time.
The NBA and NFL got huge (the NFL is a behemoth of sports television) yet college hoops and college football are still bigger than ever.

College football and college basketball are so huge in the states the excitement spilled into Canada and has continued to grow over decades.
watching a football game in texas stadium...or a basketball game at Duke is an experience like no other- so im told - but it definitely comes across when watching on TV.

Office pools are fun...long before onlime gambling and there are also die hard fans of hoops who know most all the top teams and top players. they follow it year round. and it's not just a few wack jobs in their parents basements.
its a thing!

Think of movies, comedians.. late night talk shows...singers rock bands..and popular TV shows past and present.
Do you choose only Canadian over American?
even though we have so many of our own to watch...we watch u.s. programming in these areas far more.
Our stars and directors etc made a huge influence in Hollywood after they went to the states to make their mark.

do we prefer King of Kensington reruns to Seinfeld.?

sports isn't much different in general.

I have always supported Canadians and Canadian culture and more than ever now but you have to look at facts and the choices and us. sports - and yes u.s. college sports plays a huge role in the Canadian sports fans viewing time and psyche.

Fact...More people in Canada are NOT into March madness than actually are.
It's not a majority of Canadians who are into it - yet you can say that about anything.

those who are watching u.s. college sports add up to a large and significant number

The same with NFL.
it's much bigger than CFL in canada and people argue over the Dallas Cowboys and the New England Patriots...and the Buffalo Bills and Seattle Seahawks. ..and....the....more do than they do canadian teams. (except in Saskatchewan)

You may not like it or understand it or care - which is understandable and I don't disrespect that. you are among many - a majority - but at the sane time you can't deny NCAA basketball is popular or passionate among a huge group of people without any research perspective or knowing any facts...
...and then simply dump on it because it's not on your calendar or radar..

I don't watch or get the appeal of Drag Race or housewives of Orange county or soap operas...or bake off shows or top model...or top chef shows...
...but I know they're huge...and have a passionate following in canada...when most originate from other countries.
Again, t's not the majority of canadians into each of those shows but it's a huge and significant number.

We make great television movies and programs in canada just not on the same scale as in the u.s. or u.k.

We love sports and more often than not we we are drawn to the top level - the elite.
just as in so many other aspects of our culture.
College sports are not as elite as pro sports but the hype excitement and marketing around them - and the sheer passion is probably bigger and better and more enjoyable and more intriguing to so many
We don't have any college sport comparisons to the u.s. model.
not even in hockey.

I don't expect you to ever take an interest but I hope this helps answer yor question and helos you understand a little more of why a large number enjoy u.s. college sports here in Canada - and are passionate about it....
...and realize that it's a significant part for many in the Canadian sports fans' landscape.

cheers
 
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No one can still answer why Canadians should care about American college sports.

Do you think the Yankscum would care about our university sports?
Why would they care about our university sports when we Canadians don't really care much for it?
 
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I'll watch just to see Miami O get bounced in the first round.
Miami of Ohio should be required to win their conference tourney to get invited.
I'm afraid if they are upset in their conference tourney the NCAA will feel obligated to give them an at-large bid.
kenpom ranks Miami of Ohio at #85:
A worse situation couldn't have arose for the NCAA tournament selection committee.

Miami of Ohio was knocked off by the eighth seed UMass in their conference tournament. UMass is not very good.
 
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