2025-2026 Leafs Season
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WTF is Berube doing last night playing playing Cowan 8 minutes & 23 seconds. And Robertson was a scratch. It just shows what a knucklehead this coach is. No wonder Leaf rookies never develop in Toronto. Cowan was also a scratch 2 games after the olympics. I can't wait to see Berube fired for fuck sakes
Eliotte Friedman offered an explanation earlier today. He said the thinking is they are giving more ice time to the players they are willing to trade so other teams can see them more. They are most likely not dealing Cowan, so when the trade deadline is over he will get more playing time.
McMann, Laughton and OEL are healthy scratches for tonight’s game so deals are imminent? If they do trade OEL, they’re in full tanking mode and just maybe they sink low enough to have a shot in retaining their 1st round pick? Keep Rielly, Marcelli and Domi for 20+ minutes a game the rest of this season will give them a good shot.
Tanev out for the remainder of the season. No surprise here
www.tsn.ca
Maple Leafs D Tanev has core muscle surgery, will miss remainder of season
Toronto Maple Leafs defenceman Chris Tanev underwent core muscle surgery on Wednesday and will miss the remainder of this season.
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I can’t see anything meaningful coming out of the trade deadline.Tanev out for the remainder of the season. No surprise here
Maple Leafs D Tanev has core muscle surgery, will miss remainder of season
Toronto Maple Leafs defenceman Chris Tanev underwent core muscle surgery on Wednesday and will miss the remainder of this season.
The team is slow, they can’t execute and they can’t defend.
Management is the issue. Berube and Trevling are flailing. Keith Pelley is the reincarnation of Harold Ballard without the public comedy.
They are the worse defensive team in the league. Outshot by a wide margin each and every game. It's not Marner they need. It's Tanev. Is anyone watching how they defend out there.
Tanev was probably holding off on the surgery till now cause he was hoping to play in the playoffs but now it's a sure thing there is no playoffs for them this season.
Anyone who thinks Vancouver can win the equivalent of 12 more games than the Leafs in their remaining 22 games is delusional. They have lost their last 6 games straight. Add to that Leafs are picking up loser points.
Tanev was probably holding off on the surgery till now cause he was hoping to play in the playoffs but now it's a sure thing there is no playoffs for them this season.
Anyone who thinks Vancouver can win the equivalent of 12 more games than the Leafs in their remaining 22 games is delusional. They have lost their last 6 games straight. Add to that Leafs are picking up loser points.
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You don’t seem to understand how the draft lottery works and what it means by “top 5 protected”.
The Leafs don’t have to be lower than Vancouver in the standings to have a chance in keeping the pick they traded to Boston. If they miss the playoffs, all they need is a lot of luck to get one of the top 5 positions in the lottery. The more games they lose the better position they’ll be in. How Vancouver does the rest of the season doesn’t change that. So before you call someone delusional, smarten up and don’t make a fool out of yourself.
It's not a bias, it's a good perspective. Most Leaf fans, the most vocal at the least, are stupid beyond belief.
Marner and Matthews, top production and top defensive guys on the team, get all the blame despite the fact the team had/has no depth up front, no physicality,
a shitty defense, and mediocre goaltending at best.
But they can't say enough about a guy who's played this way his whole career, and will not change.
Two clips, it's actually pretty disgusting.
https://x.com/NHLMedia/status/1918032680941179290?s=20
People can easily see how much the team misses him. Only a handful of players in the league have the creativity level of Mitch Marner.
Lottery is the only way to pick 1st overall. Tanking and moving into last is impossible and finishing last does not guarantee you pick first. Finishing 4th last does not guarantee the pick doesn't go to Boston. The team that finished last last season had the best odds but did not pick 1st overall. NYI finished 10th last won the lottery and picked 1st. Leafs are currently 11th last. That's good enough for a shot at 1st overall. Although finishing 10th last is better in case they lose the first lottery and get jumped but win the second. Moving down for better odds also gives Boston a higher pick if they don't win the lottery and it's better odds that they don't win the lottery regardless of where they finish. You obviously missed the point.
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Marner is obviously a good player. No doubt about that but it wasn't the right mix of core forwards. They're all the same. All soft. What they needed to do was trade one of them when they could. Any one of them for equal value in a different type of player. Be it Rantanen or a true number one defenseman. Clearly the Leafs have a dreadful defense group without Tanev. It was bad asset management. Shanahan used Marner as an own rental. The better alternative was to sign a superstar defenseman like Vegas did with Pietrangelo rather than Tavares but that wasn't available at the time. However, they didn't need to sign Tavares. Pietrangelo became available after so they could have waited. Or keep Kadri and Hyman instead. Both not soft.
Colorado is driven by Mac on forward and Mak on D. Edmonton like Toronto is driven by core forwards and like the Leafs their defense is dreadful. Leafs 215 goals against. Worst in the East. Edmonton 210 goals against.
Tanev was +31 goal differential last season. Only 6 other defensive were better than +31 and all but one of them played more games.
Colorado is driven by Mac on forward and Mak on D. Edmonton like Toronto is driven by core forwards and like the Leafs their defense is dreadful. Leafs 215 goals against. Worst in the East. Edmonton 210 goals against.
Tanev was +31 goal differential last season. Only 6 other defensive were better than +31 and all but one of them played more games.
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Really like the deal for the Leafs here. (Nick Roy for a First)
But its also the Leafs admitting that building up assets in the future, is more important to the Leafs than the 2026-2027 season... and this is the philosophy the Leafs have to follow at this point.
Roy at $3M was a good piece for the Leafs 26/27 team due to his cap hit -- he will be hard to replace at that number in Free Agency. But if you can get some extra value from trading him now because he has a good contract for 2 years instead of 1, you have to do it. Asset Generation is far more important than trying to maximize the 26/27 season. And that new player you get with the $3M becomes a tradeable asset again at the next deadline.
I understand how hardcore fans like Superstar88, really want to believe in the Leafs next year (and think a new GM could pull off a re-tool), and therefore mentally struggle with such a rational philosophy. But as an outsider it makes sense.
The reality is that while Treliving sucks, a new GM won't be able to turn the Leafs around. They have a borderline team now, a highly paid "superstar" who has played nowhere near superstar level for two years, no prospects or picks to trade, and need to rely on Free Agency to re-tool. There is no easy way to turn this around. Focus on asset generation, moving off good contracts that extend beyond this year.... and you can still keep Matthews and Nylander for now.
But its also the Leafs admitting that building up assets in the future, is more important to the Leafs than the 2026-2027 season... and this is the philosophy the Leafs have to follow at this point.
Roy at $3M was a good piece for the Leafs 26/27 team due to his cap hit -- he will be hard to replace at that number in Free Agency. But if you can get some extra value from trading him now because he has a good contract for 2 years instead of 1, you have to do it. Asset Generation is far more important than trying to maximize the 26/27 season. And that new player you get with the $3M becomes a tradeable asset again at the next deadline.
I understand how hardcore fans like Superstar88, really want to believe in the Leafs next year (and think a new GM could pull off a re-tool), and therefore mentally struggle with such a rational philosophy. But as an outsider it makes sense.
The reality is that while Treliving sucks, a new GM won't be able to turn the Leafs around. They have a borderline team now, a highly paid "superstar" who has played nowhere near superstar level for two years, no prospects or picks to trade, and need to rely on Free Agency to re-tool. There is no easy way to turn this around. Focus on asset generation, moving off good contracts that extend beyond this year.... and you can still keep Matthews and Nylander for now.
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All trades depends on the return and this is an excellent trade. Perhaps we have a differing definition of retool. Keeping Matthews and Nylander is a retool. Once Matthews and Nylander are traded for futures that's a rebuild. Getting a 1st round pick for Roy does not necessarily mean that they will actually use that pick and not trade it away. I never advocated for going all in next season and trading futures. I said assess what they have next season. A rebuild is tearing it all down to finish last and draft high for a few years. Then develop the new young core for a few more years. Then finishing the team around them. That includes trading futures to load up for playoffs.
Now giving OEL away for a 4th round pick would be a terrible trade.
Boston traded Marchand and Carlo last season. They didn't go full blown rebuild and trade Pastrnak, McAvoy, and Swayman.
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The Leafs needs to hire a new GM to start over, otherwise it will be same old same old again.
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Leafs get the Avs 2027 lottery protected 1st round pick (top 10 protected). If it is top 19 pick, then the Leafs get the AVS 2028 unconditional 1st round pick. The AVS get Nick Roy in return. So what's the asking price for Bobby McMann?
It's a 1st and a 5th. A 5th is equivalent to a Nick Robertson according to your estimation. Notable also Leafs did not retain salary. They probably could have gotten more than a 5th if they did but didn't want to. More than likely for the benefit of next season as they still want to win.
McMann is likely a second round pick. Anything less would be a disappointment. Ideally a second or something else like a 3rd or a prospect. A 1st would be a huge win but unlikely but you never know if a team is desperate.
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He's currently making $1.35M and he's projected to make over $5M in free agency.
