War with Iran

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Nobody in the middle east is backing Iran for a good reason. And now Hezbollah has joined Iran. At this point everyone knows Iran isn't the good guys until their regime changes and smartens up.
Other than Israel who in the Middle East are backing Trump's invasion
of Iran?
 
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Just thinking and looked it up. If the Iranians can hit the desalination plants in the region that represents about 60% of the fresh water supply.
I so much hate when a single word is used both for the government and the people of the country, especially in totalitarian countries. The correct wording should be It should not be "Iranians" but "the Iranian regime." Same as not "Russians" but "Putin's regime." It is important to understand that in many countries, people and governments are not the same, and the vast majority of the population hate their government but are afraid (and for a good reason) to do anything about it.
 
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I so much hate when a single word is used both for the government and the people of the country, especially in totalitarian countries. The correct wording should be It should not be "Iranians" but "the Iranian regime." Same as not "Russians" but "Putin's regime." It is important to understand that in many countries, people and governments are not the same, and the vast majority of the population hate their government but are afraid (and for a good reason) to do anything about it.
To be sure...

The BIBI REGIME
THE DONALD REGIME
 

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I so much hate when a single word is used both for the government and the people of the country, especially in totalitarian countries. The correct wording should be It should not be "Iranians" but "the Iranian regime." Same as not "Russians" but "Putin's regime." It is important to understand that in many countries, people and governments are not the same, and the vast majority of the population hate their government but are afraid (and for a good reason) to do anything about it.
Does that apply to Palestine and Palestinians?
That would mean accepting that the genocide is as evil as nazi genocide.
 
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trump fucked up

Iran is prepped to last through a 60-90 day war.
Israel and america will be out of defensive missiles in a day or two.
Israel used most of their bombs on Gaza and now have to attack Lebanon as well.

Iran is still using lesser missiles to waste defensive stock.
So, to extend your logic, USA should have struck a long time ago (and by long, I mean decades). If this is what you meant, I agree. If you mean that, because now Iran is ready to go through a 90-day war, we need to wait until it becomes even stronger, then something is wrong with the neurons in your brain.
 

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So, to extend your logic, USA should have struck a long time ago (and by long, I mean decades). If this is what you meant, I agree. If you mean that, because now Iran is ready to go through a 90-day war, we need to wait until it becomes even stronger, then something is wrong with the neurons in your brain.
No, that sounds really stupid.
trump should not have torn up the JCPOA in 2018, to make sure that Iran wasn't building nukes.
Or trump should have accepted when Iran agreed to dismantle their nukes right before they attacked.

Now trump stands to lose the entire middle east.

 
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Does that apply to Palestine and Palestinians?
That would mean accepting that the genocide is as evil as nazi genocide.
Nope, and I do not think anyone ever said "Palestinian terrorists killed hostages", it is "Hamas terrorists kill hostages." Unfortunately, when terrorists hide among the civilian population, that population becomes collateral damage. And when that population does very little to help fight those terrorists and even supports them (in a non-military way), then it becomes harder to shed a tear over that collateral damage
 

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Wow, why take it from the Chinese Global Times? Find something even better in Ruissian newspapers
China is a major power, all the racism and paranoia in the world is not gonna change that. And the cartoon is 100% right. The USA is even breaking its own laws.
 

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No, that sounds really stupid.
trump should not have torn up the JCPOA in 2018, to make sure that Iran wasn't building nukes.
Or trump should have accepted when Iran agreed to dismantle their nukes right before they attacked.

Now trump stands to lose the entire middle east.

Do you believe the Iranian government? Oh boy, you are spoiled by growing up in Canada. You should try to listen to people who grew up under totalitarian regimes.
 

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Nope, and I do not think anyone ever said "Palestinian terrorists killed hostages", it is "Hamas terrorists kill hostages." Unfortunately, when terrorists hide among the civilian population, that population becomes collateral damage. And when that population does very little to help fight those terrorists and even supports them (in a non-military way), then it becomes harder to shed a tear over that collateral damage
I see, so you think its ok to kill Palestinian civilians because 'Hamas' or something.

Do you believe the Iranian government? Oh boy, you are spoiled by growing up in Canada. You should try to listen to people who grew up under totalitarian regimes.
I believe the IAEA, UN and their statements on the treaties. Iran cancelled the JCPOA, the nuclear treaty.

How stupid is it to cancel a treaty then declare that Iran didn't want to be part of an agreement to not build nukes?
 

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I see, so you think its ok to kill Palestinian civilians because 'Hamas' or something.



I believe the IAEA, UN and their statements on the treaties. Iran cancelled the JCPOA, the nuclear treaty.

How stupid is it to cancel a treaty then declare that Iran didn't want to be part of an agreement to not build nukes?
Its UTTERLY RETARDED, then have a negotiation where the Omani mediator said Iran was offering huge concessions, then murder Iranian decision makers.
 
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Do you believe the Iranian government? Oh boy, you are spoiled by growing up in Canada. You should try to listen to people who grew up under totalitarian regimes.
Trump seemed to believe in the Iranian government. Trump
attacked because he couldn't extract some agreement from
the negotiation. Obviously Trump now wants a ceasefire so
he can resume negotiation.

What would you want Trump to do if the Iranian government is
not to be believed?
 

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I so much hate when a single word is used both for the government and the people of the country, especially in totalitarian countries. The correct wording should be It should not be "Iranians" but "the Iranian regime." Same as not "Russians" but "Putin's regime." It is important to understand that in many countries, people and governments are not the same, and the vast majority of the population hate their government but are afraid (and for a good reason) to do anything about it.
Iran was only attacked by the Trump regime not the U.S., right?

Somebody firing missiles into Washington taking out Trump
and his gang. The decapitation move was followed by missile
and bombing attacks across the U.S. But that was attacking
Trump's regime not the American people. It would not pass as
an invasion of the U.S.
 

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Trump seemed to believe in the Iranian government. Trump
attacked because he couldn't extract some agreement from
the negotiation. Obviously Trump now wants a ceasefire so
he can resume negotiation.

What would you want Trump to do if the Iranian government is
not to be believed?
How about monitoring? Access everywhere
 
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