AI Reset or Revolution?

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When you talk to your expert, ask him/her his/her thoughts to start transferring RRSPs to similar segregated funds. It's something I'm doing to transfer as much as I can to seg funds from RRSPs to avoid RRIFS. RRIFS are very regimented in how much you have to take out even if you don't want to while seg funds gives you more control.
Yes you pay some taxes for cashing out small amounts of your RRSP but in the long run you earn & save more money for your beneficiaries. The reason I say that is when you pass on, the gov't takes 50% of everything off the top based on ALL of your holdings everywhere while in a seg fund, depending on the option you chose you pass on 25% to the company holding the seg fund and the rest to your designated beneficiaries.
But if your expert is a hard no ask why because he/she is doing you a disservice, IMO...and then change your advisor to someone who's more open minded.

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Thanks! Ya I'm still 3-5 years away depending on the atate of the world. My immediate concern will be updating my TFSA x2. I'm contributing max to RRSP at the moment. I have some backlog to fill in.

Just thinking about solid dividends from the TFSAs once I retire. I figure we can get in the 1000+ tax free monthly out of them when all is said and done.
 
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Thanks! Ya I'm still 3-5 years away depending on the atate of the world. My immediate concern will be updating my TFSA x2. I'm contributing max to RRSP at the moment. I have some backlog to fill in.

Just thinking about solid dividends from the TFSAs once I retire. I figure we can get in the 1000+ tax free monthly out of them when all is said and done.
Excellent what you're doing with your TFSA's. Your investment person can help you balance out where your withdrawals come from since TFSA dividends are only 1 of many options to consider.

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When you talk to your expert, ask him/her his/her thoughts to start transferring RRSPs to similar segregated funds. It's something I'm doing to transfer as much as I can to seg funds from RRSPs to avoid RRIFS. RRIFS are very regimented in how much you have to take out even if you don't want to while seg funds gives you more control.
Yes you pay some taxes for cashing out small amounts of your RRSP but in the long run you earn & save more money for your beneficiaries. The reason I say that is when you pass on, the gov't takes 50% of everything off the top based on ALL of your holdings everywhere while in a seg fund, depending on the option you chose you pass on 25% to the company holding the seg fund and the rest to your designated beneficiaries.
But if your expert is a hard no ask why because he/she is doing you a disservice, IMO...and then change your advisor to someone who's more open minded.

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Just be aware of the fees that the seg funds have.

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Segregated funds generally feature higher fees than mutual funds, often ranging from 2.5% to over 3% annually, due to built-in insurance guarantees (75%–100% principal protection) and estate benefits
. These fees include management expense ratios (MERs), insurance costs, and potentially surrender charges if funds are withdrawn early.
 

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This song was also generated by AI

 
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The AI creations are 60% resembling the real person, at most. It got it all wrong with Jason Priestley, and Luke Perry looks already old as the teenager. It's kid of fun but so off sometimes that I am not impressed with these videos.
I still find them entertaining. I agree with your assessment of Luke Perry's younger age look but since this show went 10 seasons perhaps it was his older self. In fact just searched and found Luke Perry was actually 23 years old in the first season playing his teenage character.
 

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I still find them entertaining. I agree with your assessment of Luke Perry's younger age look but since this show went 10 seasons perhaps it was his older self. In fact just searched and found Luke Perry was actually 23 years old in the first season playing his teenage character.
Yes! They were in their early 20s playing 17 yo. Only Andrea is 10 years older than the others and still played a 17 year old kid. I looked it up this week, I am rewatching the whole show :- )
 
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Just be aware of the fees that the seg funds have.

AI Overview


Segregated funds generally feature higher fees than mutual funds, often ranging from 2.5% to over 3% annually, due to built-in insurance guarantees (75%–100% principal protection) and estate benefits
. These fees include management expense ratios (MERs), insurance costs, and potentially surrender charges if funds are withdrawn early.
True but each person has to evaluate due to their situation. I agree that some funds can be more expensive but not all. And even funds not (not ETFs) in seg funds are not that cheap either. As I said it's a balancing act and in this instance just providing another possible option for consideration.

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What really annoys me now is all the idiots who create fake movie trailers. I go look at a trailer on YourTube and while Im there I see all these trailers for other movies and Im like oh cool- but then on closer inspections its all AI BS

So my question - what point on the planet is there to make a fake movie trailer? Just seems like a waste of time to be honest.
 
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The above made me worry about both government misuse of AI but also the dangers of deployment of AI without making sure it is safe. We might see some AI autonomous drones kill the solders deploying them, or massacring hundreds of innocent people.
 

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Is this AI

 

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From my New York Times feed today:

Mass Hysteria. Thousands of Jobs Lost. Just How Bad Is It Going to Get?
March 5, 2026

By Michael Steinberger
Mr. Steinberger is a contributing writer for The New York Times Magazine.
Thomas Greifenberger graduated from the University of Delaware last spring. Although he double-majored in finance and marketing and minored in economics, it took him just three years to earn his bachelor’s degree. He had hoped that his solid grades and demonstrated drive would help him land a position in the financial services industry. But when Mr. Greifenberger began his job search, it quickly became apparent to him that he was sending résumés into a void. He got a few nibbles — several companies invited him to do asynchronous video interviews.

Nothing more came of those opportunities, however, and after a point, he concluded that he was on a futile quest. “It was super discouraging,” he said.
He has returned home to Long Island, where he is now employed by his family’s tree service business. Mr. Greifenberger enjoys the work — he is often the guy up in the bucket, pruning branches — and the tangible results it yields. But he admits that it’s not the future he had envisioned for himself. “I still go on LinkedIn from time to time, but I think that ship has sailed for me,” he said.

Just a few years ago, an entry-level role with a bank or an asset management firm might have been Mr. Greifenberger’s for the asking. But the white-collar job market has cooled dramatically. While the unemployment rate remains relatively low, 4.3 percent, office jobs are suddenly a lot harder to come by, for recent college graduates and experienced professionals alike.

Many companies went on hiring sprees coming out of the pandemic, and the slowdown is perhaps just the inevitable adjustment. But it is happening against the backdrop of the generative A.I. revolution and fears that vast numbers of knowledge workers will soon be evicted from their cubicles and replaced by machines — fears being amplified by an army of online Cassandras. In a sequence of events that called to mind the 1938 Orson Welles radio adaptation of “The War of the Worlds,” famous for convincing panicked listeners that aliens had really invaded, a recent Substack post imagining the economic hellscape that could result from an A.I.-induced white-collar blood bath helped send the Dow Jones industrial average tumbling 800 points. Anxious times.

It is certainly possible that we are in another moment of mass hysteria, even mass hallucination, and that A.I. will not cause permanent widespread joblessness — either because its capabilities will prove to be more limited than observers first thought or because our highly adaptable species will respond to technological change as it always has, by finding new sources of gainful employment. That the people selling the artificial intelligence are among those sounding the most ominous warnings about its potential fallout is notable, however. Some of them are prone to bombastic claims, but it is hard to see how spooking the public serves their interests. It might be wise to take their predictions at face value and assume that A.I. is indeed going to devour a lot of white-collar jobs.
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While new ones will hopefully emerge, the transition won’t be painless, and if the cracks we are seeing in the labor market become sinkholes, the effect not just on our economy but also our politics could be profound. If millions of college-educated voters have their lives upended by A.I., they will surely make their fury known. That prospect should be causing alarm in Washington and spurring efforts to try to cushion Americans from the blow that may soon befall them — by giving serious consideration, for instance, to something like universal basic income. But it is an election year, Congress is barely functioning, and on this issue, as with so many others, inertia will very likely prevail.

So are those cracks the first signs of an A.I. jobs apocalypse? It’s too soon to say, but the employment picture has darkened. The economy added only 181,000 jobs in 2025, a shockingly low figure in a year that saw gross domestic product grow by a modest but respectable 2.2 percent. According to Lawrence Katz, a professor of economics at Harvard University, what we are experiencing now — a sustained period of “slow job growth and gradually rising unemployment without a real recession” — is virtually unprecedented.

Another anomaly: White-collar workers have been disproportionately affected. Blue-collar and service workers are usually hit hardest when the job market turns, while white-collar occupations enjoy a degree of insulation because they are concentrated in “safer, less cyclically sensitive sectors,” says Mr. Katz. Now, however, knowledge workers are the ones struggling.

To be sure, this is not the first time the future of white-collar employment has been called into doubt. In the 2000s, some economists predicted that globalization would eviscerate office work much as it had manufacturing. But while a lot of jobs were sent overseas, others were simply transferred to less expensive parts of the country, and the anticipated white-collar collapse never materialized. It is very possible that the current slowdown is nothing more than a necessary correction after a period of overhiring.

But in another recent Substack post, the economist Gad Levanon of the Burning Glass Institute offered an alternative hypothesis. He noted that hiring has come to a virtual standstill in finance, insurance, accounting, consulting and tech, which are pillars of the “knowledge” economy. Mr. Levanon pointed out that companies in these areas have generally performed well of late while either trimming their head counts or keeping them largely unchanged, which suggested to him that they have found new ways to increase productivity without adding workers. It is unclear if A.I. is contributing to this trend, but the industries he cited all involve functions that seem especially ripe for automation.

This, of course, is the specter haunting millions of Americans who hold white-collar positions. In the not-so-distant past — which is to say, before the debut of ChatGPT in November 2022 — people with desk jobs feared being fired; now, they must also fret about whether the positions they have will even exist a year from now and if the skills they have developed over the course of a career are about to be rendered obsolete. Last year, Microsoft published a study identifying 40 jobs that it said could be most vulnerable to A.I. The list ranged from historians to P.R. specialists to data scientists to — gulp — writers. More recently, the Microsoft A.I. chief executive, Mustafa Suleyman, stated that most professional tasks will be fully automated over the next 12 to 18 months.

It looks all but certain that A.I. will transform knowledge work; the question is to what extent. The optimal outcome, says Harvard’s Mr. Katz, is that A.I. becomes a kind of “co-pilot” that helps people improve their skills and efficiency, and that new types of jobs replace those that are lost. Word that IBM plans to triple the number of entry-level employees it hires this year prompted lots of relieved chatter among office grunts sweating out the A.I. rollout.

The doomsday scenario is that businesses embrace A.I. agents as a substitute for querulous humans. The financial technology company Block announced last month that it was laying off 40 percent of its staff, around 4,000 people, because of the progress it claims to be seeing with A.I. In a social media post, Jack Dorsey, its chief executive, said that “the intelligence tools we’re creating and using, paired with smaller and flatter teams, are enabling a new way of working which fundamentally changes what it means to build and run a company.”

A few former employees have challenged his explanation: They contend that poor management left Block with a bloated payroll and that A.I. is just a convenient excuse for the pink slips. Whatever the truth, investors responded with delight to the news: Block’s stock soared over 20 percent, which is perhaps indicative of where Wall Street comes down on the job augmentation versus job elimination question.

Some of those being let go may find comparable work. Others, however, could be unemployed for a while — it is a tough market — and as they run short of options and savings, they might have to follow Mr. Greifenberger’s example and consider nonoffice roles. That isn’t necessarily a bad thing. Sure, when you hear tech oligarchs who haven’t screwed in a lightbulb or fixed a toilet in years extolling the virtues of being an electrician or a plumber, it is hard to suppress a laugh — and hard, too, not to see it as a cynical ploy to persuade Americans to dial back their expectations as A.I. comes for their jobs and more of the nation’s wealth is funneled upward.

But it seems a growing number of white-collar workers are looking at the skilled trades as a potential fallback, and if the rise of A.I. leads to a modest brain drain from the professions into fields such as construction and carpentry, it might also cause us to re-evaluate the prestige that we assign to certain types of labor but not others. It will definitely accelerate the development of so-called new-collar jobs, which blur the distinction between white and blue.

I got a glimpse of this trend during a recent visit to a company called Hadrian, a manufacturing start-up that leans heavily on automation and A.I. to produce parts for planes, rockets and satellites. One employee on its factory floor had worked for a commercial real estate brokerage. He traded a white-collar job for a nominally blue-collar one, but in a high-tech setting, and like all of the company’s employees, he is partly compensated with equity — a stake that could be lucrative if and when Hadrian goes public.

Still, that is just one person who made the switch, and there are only so many Hadrians. If A.I. proves to be a job killer and several million people are culled from the white-collar work force, it stands to reason that a significant percentage of them will have trouble maintaining their economic footing. For decades, white-collar jobs have been the main driver of social mobility in the United States. Even now, college-educated workers command an enormous wage premium — more than 70 percent, by most calculations — over those with only high school diplomas.
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Many Americans already take a dim view of A.I. and feel as if they are being frog-marched to a future that they neither asked for nor wanted. If A.I. robs some of them of their livelihoods, knocks them out of the middle class and thwarts the aspirations of their kids, wariness will quickly give way to rage.

In a recent interview, Martin Wolf, the chief economics commentator of The Financial Times, suggested that if lots of “skilled, trained thinking activities” are displaced by machines, it could provoke a furious backlash. “We could have a social and political crisis that makes deindustrialization look trivial,” he said. “Deindustrialization, though one of the biggest forces shaping our world, shook the working class, particularly the male working class, from top to bottom. Shaking the prospects of the educated middle class is socially far more dangerous and explosive because it affects them and their parents, who are the people who run our societies in almost every possible way.”
Mr. Wolf is not inclined to hyperbole, and when someone as reliably levelheaded as he is talking this way, it is a good indication that the risk is real. Given the upheaval we may soon be facing, it would be nice if we had a president capable of leading a thoughtful national conversation about where A.I. is taking us. Suffice it to say, Donald Trump is not that kind of president.

Some on Capitol Hill are treating the job threat seriously. Last fall, Senators Mark Warner and Josh Hawley introduced legislation that would require companies to provide information to the Department of Labor about the number of jobs they have cut or created because of A.I. and how they are helping employees navigate the new technology. But the bill would do nothing to ameliorate the circumstances of those who lose their jobs to A.I. On that front, we are apparently just going to hope for the best, not really plan for the worst and trust that creative destruction will somehow see us through it all.
 
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