State of the Union address

squeezer

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Well how about that...Squeezy likes the centrist...looks like we're not far from each other's views...i don't like Extreme right wingers too my man...you just have to put your hate for Trump aside now...he's not gonna last long...just finishing h is term and he's off to the sunset...
Anyone reading my posts would realize I'm in the middle. You just have trouble absorbing what you read.

Trump is a liar, a conman, a felon and an abuser of women, yet you cheer him on. You come off as an extreme right-winger.
 

richaceg

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Anyone reading my posts would realize I'm in the middle. You just have trouble absorbing what you read.

Trump is a liar, a conman, a felon and an abuser of women, yet you cheer him on. You come off as an extreme right-winger.
Not really...I agree with deporting Illegal immigration, fair trade and banning biological man in women's sports and bathrooms...always had been my stance...what i'm cheering is the meltdowns over it.
 

WyattEarp

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I'd say because the GOP cannot whip its members or govern as effectively as the Democrats. The reality here is that a handful of Republicans in the house either didn't vote or voted no. The Dems were holding out due to things like the Big Beautiful Bill stripping away ACA subsidies and what not. And, since the Dems are in the minority, the fact the GOP needed their help to get it to the senate is kind of sad.
I'm not sure what you are describing.

The Big Beautiful Bill didn't have any Democratic Senators support the bill. It's hard for even Americans to understand the rules and procedures of the Senate. Generally, if there is a difficult vote it's because the filibuster can be utilized by the minority party. Ergo, the October shutdown over appropriations legislation.

I have a different point of view about members of Congress voting apart from their party majority. It's a healthy act that many times allows Congressional members from purple states/districts to act as a voice of moderation. The idealism of a unified Democratic caucus is certainly something one might see as a positive force. So much so, we have had many members criticize the likes of Fetterman and previously Manchin and Sinema who periodically broke Democratic ranks.
A beautiful, compassionate thought on this from you below:

Yeah, ever since he had his stroke, he's become more right-wing. I guess it has something to do with brain damage...😜
Canadians often get confused by our legislative process. It is specifically designed to make passing legislation difficult. One could question the wisdom and practicality of that, but that's how it works. Our forefathers didn't foresee the hardened postures of our political parties that exists today. Of course, our Constitution doesn't encode the filibuster. The filibuster is an old, self-imposed Senate procedural rule.

In contrast, it's safe to assume that a contentious bill within the ranks of the Canadian majority party or majority coalition never makes it to the floor of Parliament until a majority is on board. There is floor debate, but I presume the outcome has already been decided.
 
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Not really...I agree with deporting Illegal immigration, fair trade and banning biological man in women's sports and bathrooms...always had been my stance...what i'm cheering is the meltdowns over it.
Those are right wing troll issues.
Your worries are about 1% issues, the 1% who are trans, 1% who are illegal immigrants and trade that is all for the 1%.

Those are totally unrelated to real issues people live with.
Crappy wages, inflation, housing, social care issues.
 
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Those are right wing troll issues.
Your worries are about 1% issues, the 1% who are trans, 1% who are illegal immigrants and trade that is all for the 1%.

Those are totally unrelated to real issues people live with.
Crappy wages, inflation, housing, social care issues.
give me 97% of the issues then...
crappy wages, inflation, housing and social care issues are democrat issues not Trump's.
 

Frankfooter

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give me 97% of the issues then...
crappy wages, inflation, housing and social care issues are democrat issues not Trump's.
Exactly.
trump works of rage baiting.

He doesn't even understand 'affordability'

You are more worried about trans using your bathroom then you are about war with Iran, ending elections, ICE arresting minorities, the end of social services, or the decline in living standards and end of the american dream.

You're just fixated on the horror of seeing someone with a vagina in your bathroom.
 

richaceg

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Exactly.
trump works of rage baiting.

He doesn't even understand 'affordability'

You are more worried about trans using your bathroom then you are about war with Iran, ending elections, ICE arresting minorities, the end of social services, or the decline in living standards and end of the american dream.

You're just fixated on the horror of seeing someone with a vagina in your bathroom.
You're just ranting at this point and avoid answering.
Immigration
and Economy are just 2%...that's kinda idiotic.
 

WyattEarp

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Lord knows we could all use that!
I know this is the political thread.
But don't you all find the prettier the girl (nonpro) the less powerful the oration?

If you plotted oration performance on a chart, an inverted pattern would be sharply evident.
The X axis would be beauty and the Y axis would be the power of oration.
If you find a female outlier well above the right side of the curve, she's a keeper.
But then the crazy factor comes into play. ;)

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WyattEarp

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Regardless, the topic is American politics, the SOTU. So why are you bringing up the Canadian parliamentary system? It is irrelevant.
The contrast between the U.S. Congressional system and Canadian Parliamentary system is useful in challenging simplistic Canadian ideas and opinions of how the U.S. legislature works. Anyway, I'm pretty sure you know better.

FYI, the T in TERB means Toronto.
 
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WyattEarp

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The filibuster is an excuse. It could be gotten rid of at any time.
It's probably not as bad as some make it out to be. It prevents more wild swings in policy from one election cycle to another.

Now one who follows political science with an objective eye might say let the majority party pass all legislation with just a 50.1% up/down majority in the House (218) and Senate (51). Individual Congressional members would live and die on their votes. Right now, Congress doesn't even vote on some difficult issues.

PS- At least, you are not refusing to recognize the power of the filibuster in the U.S. Congress.
 

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@squeezer...shots fired...lmao.
In defense of squeezer...IMO..anyone that opposes you are right wing...
Wow, Mandani is surging while Trumpy is in decline mentally and poll-wise.

If this keeps up, maybe the Dems should run him for Prez in 2028


Even Trump is dazzled by the New York Mayor.
 
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It's probably not as bad as some make it out to be. It prevents more wild swings in policy from one election cycle to another.

Now one who follows political science with an objective eye might say let the majority party pass all legislation with just a 50.1% up/down majority in the House (218) and Senate (51). Individual Congressional members would live and die on their votes. Right now, Congress doesn't even vote on some difficult issues.

PS- At least, you are not refusing to recognize the power of the filibuster in the U.S. Congress.
Yet somehow the BBB was passed.

Honestly Wyatt right now you have a seriously corrupted system.
 

WyattEarp

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Wow, Mandani is surging while Trumpy is in decline mentally and poll-wise.

If this keeps up, maybe the Dems should run him for Prez in 2028

Even Trump is dazzled by the New York Mayor.
Huh? You just claimed you were in the middle.
 
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