ISRAELI AMBASSADOR ADMITS “GREATER ISRAEL” IS THE GOAL

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I showed that they are not.
While often synonymous with the area of the modern State of Israel, Eretz Israel is not defined by modern borders.
It is a concept that historically encompasses varying territories mentioned in the Bible, sometimes stretching from the Nile to the Euphrates.
It is crucial to distinguish Eretz Israel (the holy, biblical Land of Israel) from Medinat Israel (the modern political State of Israel, founded in 1948).
The former is a spiritual and historical concept, while the latter is a political entity that we know of today.
 
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My post referred to klatu's interpretation of the word "eretz", not "the term greater Israel". W
Getting bogged down in semantics doesn't change the fact that Israel's long stated goals for their final boarders stretch far beyond where they are today
 

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To be completely honest, I genuinely was shocked to see racist french people in quebec because i saw racism as more of an evangelical thing and quebec isn't very evangelical. But it is extremely racist there lol
Back when it had a lot of influence in Quebec, the Catholic Church was the source of much Quebecois antisemitism.

"Mode-zee Juif..." (forgive my spelling) = "God damn Jews..."

And don't forget, the older Quebecois are racist about almost everybody...
 
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They are that way because they are determined to maintain their culture, they don't want outsiders. To be honest there's a lot the rest of Canada can learn from Quebec in that regard.
Not really. What they have said is they want white jews. High ranking officials are on record stating they would rather have Eastern European jews than African jews who have been of that culture since its inception.

As for Canada trying to define a Canadian culture is ridiculous. Newfs are different for Quebec, different from Ontario, different from Prairies, different from West coast. Each is influenced as much be geography, as ethnic background of settlers as anything.

And that's a good thing. Homogeneous culture is boring. I like that I have the option to live, visit different ways within the same nation.
 

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You're talking about like six people who played zero role in forming the foundations of Canada. Those "south asians" in particular came illegally and even murdered a customs agent who was trying to send them the fuck back to the punjab. Your historical revisionism is frankly quite sad, but I expect nothing less from a boomer shitlib
Let's see. Would you say the Asains who came and built the railroads had no influence on the formation of Canada? The Eastern Europeans in the Prairies? The Irish slaves? The freed black slaves?
 
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Only for people wishing to demonize Israel.

The direct translation of the word eretz is land or earth.
It’s not a single word, Eretz Israel is a phrase, and its meaning is well understood and its use documented.

‘Greater Israel" (Hebrew: ארץ ישראל השלמה, romanized: Eretz Yisrael HaShlema) is an expression with several different biblical and political meanings over time. It is often used, in an irredentist fashion, to refer to the historic or desired borders of the State of Israel.’
 
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Yes, and the land they are referring to using that phrase, is from the Nile to the Euphrates, which stretches far beyond their current disputed international borders.
Are you "their" spokesperson to say what "they" are referring to? Land is distinct from water.

Sorry. You are expanding what the meaning of "land" is. Does the sea of China mean all of the Pacific? That is what you are doing.
 
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Sorry. You are expanding what the meaning of "land" is....
I am stating the meaning of the phrase "Eretz Israel" as conceived by Herzl and Gurion.
You are stating the meaning of the word "Eretz".
Don't get them confused.
 

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It’s not a single word, Eretz Israel
You are good at math. It is 2 words.
Eretz Israel is a phrase, and its meaning is well understood and its use documented.
Only evilly understood and documented by people wishing to demonize Israel. Are you an Israeli supporter or do you ever use the term POS nation to refer to Israel? Thank you for proving my point.
 
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You are good at math. It is 2 words.

Only evilly understood and documented by people wishing to demonize Israel. Are you an Israeli supporter or do you ever use the term POS nation to refer to Israel? Thank you for proving my point.
Did you learn about it in summer camp?

 

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Meaning it's so easy for that to happen because Israel does it to itself? Just asking.
At this point I think that is a fair assessment. I am a supporter of their right to exist but for what ever reason they have gone full on expansionist and are creating world instability. And its rooted in a racial superiority doctrine.

At some point you don't get to do what you want without pushback and are no longer the victim.
 

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At this point I think that is a fair assessment. I am a supporter of their right to exist but for what ever reason they have gone full on expansionist and are creating world instability. And its rooted in a racial superiority doctrine.
That may be all well and true. However, that is not what I am debating. I am debating what klatu says is the meaning of the word ERETZ. It means land, nothing more and nothing less. Not air, not water. Land.
 

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That may be all well and true. However, that is not what I am debating. I am debating what klatu says is the meaning of the word ERETZ. It means land, nothing more and nothing less. Not air, not water. Land.
Words take on new meanings all the time. Context matters. Thats just being nit picky.
 
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