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Major fentanyl supplier 'El Mencho' killed, cartel chaos triggers shelter-in-place order

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Nemesio Oseguera's death triggers widespread cartel violence across Mexico as armed groups block highways and burn vehicles

Major Mexican drug lord Nemesio Oseguera, known as "El Mencho," was killed in a military operation Sunday morning, the country’s Defense Department announced, marking one of Mexico’s most significant blows to organized crime amid pressure from President Donald Trump to intensify the crackdown on drug cartels.

The announcement came as government officials warned of clashes in Jalisco state and widespread criminal activity across the country, prompting the U.S. Embassy in Mexico to issue shelter-in-place advisories for multiple states.

On Sunday, Mexican troops reportedly conducted operations in Tapalpa, Jalisco, targeting Nemesio Rubén Oseguera Cervantes, a former police officer who became the elusive leader of the Cartel de Jalisco Nueva Generación (CJNG), a major supplier of fentanyl to the United States.

Known as "El Mencho," Oseguera Cervantes carried a $15 million U.S. bounty and rose to power following the arrest of Joaquín "El Chapo" Guzmán, the former head of the Sinaloa Cartel. Over the past 15 years, CJNG has grown from a local criminal group into a global trafficking organization operating out of its stronghold in Jalisco.

"I’ve just been informed that Mexican security forces have killed ‘El Mencho,’ one of the bloodiest and most ruthless drug kingpins," U.S. Deputy Secretary of State Christopher Landau said in a post on X. "This is a great development for Mexico, the US, Latin America, and the world. The good guys are stronger than the bad guys."

The Mexican Defense Department said the operation was conducted as part of bilateral coordination and cooperation with the U.S., whose authorities provided complementary intelligence that contributed to Oseguera Cervantes' capture.

During the capture, the CJNG ringleader became wounded and died en route to Mexico City, the Defense Department said.

 

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Have a friend living in the country. It's pretty much the entire nation is in lockdown right now. He is no where near it and streets are deserted, stores etc closed and armed patrols in the streets.

Should hopefully subside in a day.
 

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Have a friend living in the country. It's pretty much the entire nation is in lockdown right now. He is no where near it and streets are deserted, stores etc closed and armed patrols in the streets.

Should hopefully subside in a day.
They're showing it on TV its crazy
 

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It seems the cartel got caught where they thought they were hidden.

They needed time to flee the area; one group went south of Puerto Vallarta, and one group went east. They paid people to initiate chaos everywhere to distract and slow down the police.

So far, there are no reports of citizens or tourists being hurt.

It should not escalate further. Except if there are tense rivalries to find a successor to the main drug lord. But usually they do that between themselves.
 

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Sheinbum isn't handling this well...one phone call from her Daddy and all this would be fixed...
No, it would not.

The cartels are making billions. The only solution is to have americans stopped buying drugs. Until then, there is no one-time solution.
They have up to 40 thousand people on their payroll, ready to do or die.
 

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The cartels are making billions. The only solution is to have americans stopped buying drugs. Until then, there is no one-time solution. They have up to 40 thousand people on their payroll, ready to do or die.
So you're saying that Canadians buying illegal drugs isn't a problem.
 

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The cartels run the country, they killed 25 cops, blocked streets, burned stores etc. The army needs to go in an wipe them out,
 

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So you're saying that Canadians buying illegal drugs isn't a problem.
I'd say, considering your usual comments on how tiny and insignificant we are economically, that surely now you don't think our tiny footprint matters here as well?.
 

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The cartels run the country, they killed 25 cops, blocked streets, burned stores etc. The army needs to go in an wipe them out,
The cartels would go scorched earth, and kill tourism for a decade. Note they were very careful not to touch them. Back them into a corner and they will.
 
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I'd say, considering your usual comments on how tiny and insignificant we are economically, that surely now you don't think our tiny footprint matters here as well?.
I'm not sure where you got idea. I just think Canada and the U.S. are codependent economically to much degree.
If you think Canada is totally independent and can drive the economic relationship on its own terms, I think that might be folly.
 

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I'm not sure where you got idea. I just think Canada and the U.S. are codependent economically to much degree.
If you think Canada is totally independent and can drive the economic relationship on its own terms, I think that might be folly.
At this point? No. It will take a decade or so to really get things diversified. But we are going to move away in significant proportion.

Carney has already stated he is dropping military spending from 75% to below 30% for US contracts. There is public pressure to change out from the F-35 to the Grippon. Subs are going to either the Germans or Koreans.

New pipelines will outright bypass US soil and plans for in country refineries are in play. We are looking at new customers for Potash, our extra food.

I know you think its only going to be about money, but businesses need reliability and trust to function as well. And your nation is proving to be neither. You really don't realize the damage done, how much more this administration will do, and how scorched earth they will go to save their skins when SHTF.
 

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might go to Cartagena, Colombia instead of Cancun
 

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At this point? No. It will take a decade or so to really get things diversified. But we are going to move away in significant proportion.

Carney has already stated he is dropping military spending from 75% to below 30% for US contracts. There is public pressure to change out from the F-35 to the Grippon. Subs are going to either the Germans or Koreans.

New pipelines will outright bypass US soil and plans for in country refineries are in play. We are looking at new customers for Potash, our extra food.

I know you think its only going to be about money, but businesses need reliability and trust to function as well. And your nation is proving to be neither. You really don't realize the damage done, how much more this administration will do, and how scorched earth they will go to save their skins when SHTF.
I think an objective exercise would be to draw two columns regarding U.S.-Canadian trade.
In the left, put all the things that Canada has consistently has said are off-limits.
In the right, you can put whatever you want that you think is some special deal for the U.S.
While you are talking up defense spending, you can put not coming close to meeting NATO commitments on the left.

I don't always like the Trump Administration's heavy-handedness but I think many are ignoring the entire picture.
 
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At this point? No. It will take a decade or so to really get things diversified. But we are going to move away in significant proportion.
Its going to take longer than a decade. In any business, its unwise to have a single customer who comprises the majority of your revenues. It gives them leverage. Canada should continue export diversification long after Trump is gone, to prepare for the next Trump.
 

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That would mean the Mexicans are forever stuck with the cartels
I think for awhile yes. They are one of the largest employers and number close to 200,000. To put that into perspective the Afghan insurgents numbered about 40,000 and the US military failed to defeat them.
They are well armed, well funded, have loyalty, and are embedded in corrupt officials. They also have international backing from the Chinese and the Russians(less now).

In the USA they have failed to rout the gangs despite the war on drugs. And they are not nearly as organized.

Sending in the military means no civil liberties, no trials, just a war. Thats how they work. And all if the destruction and civilian casualties that will go with it.
 
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I think an objective exercise would be to draw two columns regarding U.S.-Canadian trade.
In the left, put all the things that Canada has consistently has said are off-limits.
In the right, you can put whatever you want that you think is some special deal for the U.S.
While you are talking up defense spending, you can put not coming close to meeting NATO commitments on the left.

I don't always like the Trump Administration's heavy-handedness but I think many ignoring the entire picture.
In trade you can put these columns.

Things the USA needs. Oil, Energy, Potash, minerals, wood, water.....

And we, once we diversify, stop discounting them. Without other compensation.

And yes, our food supply chain can be called a security issue and limit foreign entry. There is lots we do let in unfettered. There is no reason we have to let it all in.

And we are increasing the defense spending. A lot. Look it up. This time I don't think its just talk. It's going to happen.

I do see the big picture. And it involves being less reliant on US trade.
 
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