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yet unconstitutionally invoking the emergencies act and freezing bank accounts does not prevent you from winning elections

its time we had political leaders whose priorities are acting in the best interest of Canadians rather than priorities of retaining power

When the useful idiot Trudeau became a barrier to the liberals retaining power they punted him
now he is just a useless idiot, just like he was prior to the Liberal party selecting a moron to be their leader because he has a famous last name
This is why Justin's hand-picked successor KICKED Pee Pee's ass right out of his own riding because he supported the Freedum Convoy. Salivating at being PM, then woooosh, SuperCarney steps in and punts his sorry ass along with all the righties' dream of a Conservative win. It was awesome to say the least. Now he's scrambling to become more presentable and doesn't know how to completely bash Jamil because most of his base worships the orange taint next door. Your party has so many issues it's funny to watch and I'm ecstatic Pee Pee won the vote of his party to stay. Plus, watching him grovel to Carney's side and support him in the house is heartwarming. LMFAO
 
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The US is a predator under the Trump clown show. Once Newsom becomes President, they will once again become good neighbors. Add in Mother Nature culls the orange taint, MAGA will wither away, leaving the USA excoriated of its demons. Dougy isn't wrong, keeping alliances with the good folks in the US.
Newsom is tarred by AIPAC and blocking taxing billionaires. AOC is more popular but the Pelosi school will fight her like they did Bernie.
DoFo is MAGA, the Am-Can thing is shown with preference for american contracts over Canadian. He's doing the opposite of Carney who is buying Canadian.

DoFo also just cut student loans and is putting more health care funding into private hands over hospitals, while running a massive debt.

I'm sure you'll celebrate the fact that DoFo is raising Hydro rates already to pay for buying expensive american nuclear. Under DoFo, Ontario built the most expensive transit, gave away $2 billion to pay for a foreign spa and trashed Crown Royal while he drinks off LCBO stocks and profits.

 
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Newsom is tarred by AIPAC and blocking taxing billionaires. AOC is more popular but the Pelosi school will fight her like they did Bernie.
DoFo is MAGA, the Am-Can thing is shown with preference for american contracts over Canadian. He's doing the opposite of Carney who is buying Canadian.

DoFo also just cut student loans and is putting more health care funding into private hands over hospitals, while running a massive debt.

I'm sure you'll celebrate the fact that DoFo is raising Hydro rates already to pay for buying expensive american nuclear. Under DoFo, Ontario built the most expensive transit, gave away $2 billion to pay for a foreign spa and trashed Crown Royal while he drinks off LCBO stocks and profits.

Putting AOC in would be handing the Repugs another win, she's not ready, and the US electorate isn't ready for a woman President yet. I would vote for her in a heartbeat but she would lose. Has to be a younger white man who can speak properly and Newsom is the one. I like Shapiro and Buttigieg, but I'd be worried about them pulling it off. The same with Mark Kelly, good guy, but can he win, hmmm...

DOFO is not MAGA and to say so is just silly. As a matter of fact, MAGA is not fond of him.

Dougie can save a child drowning in a pool and you would attack him. As I have said before, present me with a good Liberal leader and I will once again vote for them but for now, Dougie is the man.

ps....any Liberal leader even thinking of bringing back Photo radar, I would donate to Dougie to kick their ass!! Just sayin!! BEEP BEEP VROOM VROOM.
 
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yet unconstitutionally invoking the emergencies act and freezing bank accounts does not prevent you from winning elections

its time we had political leaders whose priorities are acting in the best interest of Canadians rather than priorities of retaining power

When the useful idiot Trudeau became a barrier to the liberals retaining power, they punted him
now he is just a useless idiot, just like he was prior to the Liberal party selecting a moron to be their leader ........ because he has a famous last name

the once great Liberal party is a disgrace and a destructive burden on Canadians
JOHNNY I have a gift for you

Alberta Conservative MP Matt Jeneroux crosses floor to Liberals, despite November statement



BOOM
 

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Putting AOC in would be handing the Repugs another win, she's not ready, and the US electorate isn't ready for a woman President yet. I would vote for her in a heartbeat but she would lose. Has to be a younger white man who can speak properly and Newsom is the one. I like Shapiro and Buttigieg, but I'd be worried about them pulling it off. The same with Mark Kelly, good guy, but can he win, hmmm...

DOFO is not MAGA and to say so is just silly. As a matter of fact, MAGA is not fond of him.

Dougie can save a child drowning in a pool and you would attack him. As I have said before, present me with a good Liberal leader and I will once again vote for them but for now, Dougie is the man.

ps....any Liberal leader even thinking of bringing back Photo radar, I would donate to Dougie to kick their ass!! Just sayin!! BEEP BEEP VROOM VROOM.
AOC is the most popular dem right now, she's riding that same wave as Mamdani. Newsom represents the Biden/Harris legacy, which is more of the same.

DoFo is most definitely MAGA. He plays captain Canada publicly but gives all major contracts to americans or foreigners while playing from the same rulebook. Privatize services and cut them when he can't privatize. It looks like he operates for the interest of Ontario if you look at his words and the millions he spends on ads, but if you look at the actual policy he's doing more for america. There is no file where he hasn't followed this policy path and everything is worse in Ontario under him, education, health, housing, social services and yes, transit.

 
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Here's the thing: I don't care if Jivani is considered ugly. I really don't. He could be the Elephant man. The thing here is that his trip to Washington was sort of unprecedented. I cannot remember another time when an opposition member went to talk to the US VP without any word from his party's leader. That feels bad enough. But, his comments in that Breitbart article basically undercut Canada. Us being upset about Trump's idiotic and childish behaviour as a hissy fit is ridiculous. And, as @Shaquille Oatmeal rightfully pointed out, it certainly reeks of a quisling attitude. Optically, this is what will disqualify him as rising anywhere higher in the political spectrum, espeically at this time when Mango Mussolini is threatening Canada's economic health on multiple levels.

Jivani is foolish for this. His trip makes it seem like Canada is the issue in these negotiations. Like we're the ones who are walking out or refusing to hear the US pitch. I highly doubt that. We all know Trump is mercurial. He blusters and makes noise, cancels talks over any perceived digression, and basically thinks that he can bully us into a bad deal. All Jivani is doing is making the Trump administration think that Canada will back down and take whatever the US wants to give us.

Now, if the government asked for his help, that would be a completely different thing. And, it isn't shocking that Brian Lilley is trying hard to spin this into Jivani being a hero. And failing. Maple MAGA will love Jivani for doing this, but they are a small group of idiots. I think this will hurt his political future. I also think that he is a very intelligent man. You don't get into Yale by being an idiot (unless you are a legacy/wealthy, neither of which describes Jivani). But, I think he might have been caught up in the moment and been treated like a superstar by the right and Breitbart...So, he flaps his gums about shit and downplays how angry Canada is. Which is a mistake.
The problem is everyone wants to see this from a position that fits their narrative.

How do you undercut a situation that has been described as "Over"? If we are to take that at face value, I can understand wanting to do more, especially as he is the MP for Bowmanville—Oshawa North.

For Jivani, like The Rock says "Know your roll and shut your mouth". When he took one step over the line, people held back. Now he's taking several steps over the line. What he should have done is passed the information to the party.

We are heading in a bad era of Canadian politics. We the people are going to lose.
 

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AOC is the most popular dem right now, she's riding that same wave as Mamdani. Newsom represents the Biden/Harris legacy, which is more of the same.
It will be a while male, not AOC. If you can't see it, can't help you.

DoFo is most definitely MAGA. He plays captain Canada publicly but gives all major contracts to americans or foreigners while playing from the same rulebook. Privatize services and cut them when he can't privatize. It looks like he operates for the interest of Ontario if you look at his words and the millions he spends on ads, but if you look at the actual policy he's doing more for america. There is no file where he hasn't followed this policy path and everything is worse in Ontario under him, education, health, housing, social services and yes, transit.
MAGA is not a Dougie fan. Again, you can have an opinion, but you're wrong and if there were a provincial election today, he would once again win a majority.
 

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It will be a while male, not AOC. If you can't see it, can't help you.
Its not me that needs help with their sight.


MAGA is not a Dougie fan. Again, you can have an opinion, but you're wrong and if there were a provincial election today, he would once again win a majority.
Actually, he'd lose today. You miss the point, again. DoFo borrows all MAGA concepts, but runs as pretend MOGA, while pushing the same policies. Sell off or give away services and contracts to insiders, spend a ton on ads, spend more on privatization then declare he's spending more for the people and then cut services more.

 

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why ask a question that was addressed by the very first word ??



and somehow you are confused about whom i am referring to ??

deflecting to 'trump' does not make Trudeau any less a moron, nor does it fix the damage Trudeau did to Canada
Ziggy played guitar, but Larue only plays the Bash Trudeau Banjo Rag. He hasn't noticed that current PM Carney is a brilliant man and a great leader who is boldly standing up to the insane gangster, Trump, who wants to destroy us to own us, and would easily succeed if PP were PM.
 
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Ziggy played guitar, but Larue only plays the Bash Trudeau Banjo Rag. He hasn't noticed that current PM Carney is a brilliant man and a great leader who is boldly standing up to the insane gangster, Trump, who wants to destroy us to own us, and would easily succeed if PP were PM.
The great larue is doing the Time Warp, he is stuck in the past and unable to relish the future.
Its best to think of him like this McDonald's burger.

 
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Ziggy played guitar, but Larue only plays the Bash Trudeau Banjo Rag
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are you a denier of the Trudeau disaster
there is a 97% consensus that he was a failure

He hasn't noticed that current PM Carney is a brilliant man and a great leader who is boldly standing up to the insane gangster, Trump, who wants to destroy us to own us, and would easily succeed if PP were PM.
PM Carney is a brilliant man.
he has definitely out smarted you

he will become disgustingly rich directing deficit financed, tax payer money to his conflict of interest investments
he has a WEF agenda rather than a Canadian agenda

corrupt and deceitful, however brilliant


re: boldly standing up to the insane gangster, Trump
how is that campaign promised July16 free trade deal working ?

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i guess you just cant help yourself when it comes to supporting corrupt liberal leaders

i will stipulate Carney is not a complete moron like Trudeau
 
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Actually, he'd lose today. You miss the point, again. DoFo borrows all MAGA concepts, but runs as pretend MOGA, while pushing the same policies. Sell off or give away services and contracts to insiders, spend a ton on ads, spend more on privatization then declare he's spending more for the people and then cut services more.
Which party would beat him today?? This should be interesting.
 

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Which party would beat him today?? This should be interesting.
Right now its the liberals, even without a leader. Though Stiles is the one who should lead the party and the only reason DoFo is in power was his republican style voter disenfranchisement combined with spending $100 million+ of our money on ads saying how great he was before the election.

If the libs and ndp work together the cons are done, but I expect that both will try to win on their own again.
Still, if the parties ask where the money went and why health care sucks, student loans are gone, manufacturing is gone and where all that cash went, DoFo will lose.


 

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The problem is everyone wants to see this from a position that fits their narrative.

How do you undercut a situation that has been described as "Over"? If we are to take that at face value, I can understand wanting to do more, especially as he is the MP for Bowmanville—Oshawa North.

For Jivani, like The Rock says "Know your roll and shut your mouth". When he took one step over the line, people held back. Now he's taking several steps over the line. What he should have done is passed the information to the party.

We are heading in a bad era of Canadian politics. We the people are going to lose.
I think the future is unwritten, and there will probably be a lot of issues that pop up. Like the fact that the US could implode at any minute thanks to Trump and his idiotic policies. The reality here is that we face a challenge that no modern Canadian PM has ever faced. We have a neighbour led by a mercurial jackass who constantly tries to throw sand into the gears of alliances and trade agreements. That is a fact. It likely wouldn't matter who the PM was, even PP would face this type of bullshit. Now, maybe PP would be a bit more or an ass kisser to Trump (and note, I am not saying he would sell Canada out. I might not like him, but I do not think he would give up the ghost for Trump), so maybe Trump acts a bit more favourably to Canada. Where this ends up, who knows. Trump could have a massive heart attack tonight, or someone could try to impress Jodie Foster tomorrow. Then things could change rapidly...

Now, speaking specifically of Jivani, I feel like this move was orchestrated to fuck with PP. I mean, Jivani never asked, nor got permission to do this. While PP says now that he encourages all his MPs to lobby to help end the tariffs, he has distanced himself from what Jivani said in that Breitbart interview. I also get the impression that Jivani was looking to build up his name with the righties in the US. He want's to come off as the "sane" Canadian who is pals with Vance and could be part of the next Canadian government. I think he either misread how his comments would be taken in Canada, or that he didn't think a lot of Canadians read/watch Breitbart. Now, will PP punt him from caucus? I doubt it. We also know the odds of him crossing the aisle are slim to nil.

Finally, I also realize that I haven't really commented on the basis for this thread, the whole "he's to ugly" remark. I think that is cruel. Honestly. I don't think anyone's appearance should be the basis of how people vote for them. I mean, is Jivani the second coming of Brad Pitt? No. But neither was Harper, PP, Chretien, etc. I also think using looks cuts both ways. Justin Trudeau was labeled the "shiny pony" by Ezra Levant before he even became Liberal leader. Now, did Trudeau lack substance.......at times, yes. But, I also don't think he was as unintelligent as the righties here want to paint him. Honestly, I would love if we elected people based on how well they will represent our riding and country, looks be damned.
 
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Get a grip!
Ok, I thought I had seen a poll with libs in the lead but they did get a bump when Crosbie resigned but are still behind.
But....




I like Stiles, and she would have done damage as a liberal leader, but she's not, and cannot take that suit without losing credibility, so it's a moot point.
Right now the libs and ndp poll higher than the cons.
 
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