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Nobody is proposing war.
The change is being demanded by the Iranian citizens.
I don't support Pahlavi or oppose him, but he is the option that seems to be most prominent, and I don't think there is a domestic option in Iran either.
You've tried to call him a potential dictator etc, with no evidence, while he himself has called for a secular, democratic state.
Pahlavi calling for war is no different than Iranians wanting to violently depose Khomeini, for the violence they have suffered under his regime.
Just look at the people behind Pahlavi. Not the people on the streets (supported by SM bots), but the people behind the scenes funding and supporting him.
The Israeli influence operation aiming to Install Reza Pahlavi as Shah of Iran
Citizen Lab Found That an Online Network Pushed Out Deepfake Videos During Israel's Airstrikes on Tehran's Evin Prison. An Investigation by TheMarker and Haaretz Reveals the Persian-language Online Campaigns Indirectly Funded by Israel
Sounds like you’ve either got your head up your ass, or you’re planning on benefiting from forced conversion.
Back to Israel. lol.
As I said, who is better? Pahlavi or Khomeini? Clearly, Pahlavi.
Pahlavi will obviously come with US and Israel backing, but is there a better alternative right now?
If there is, then say who he is.
Your last statement is quite wrong; extremist Muslims and Christians both believe their books are quite real. The current Islamic diaspora is a repeat of the Catholic missionaries.
Cool. If the Israelis want to collapse an Islamic theocracy, I support them. Once Iran is done, let’s aim them at the Saudis, then the Emirates…..and so on.Just look at the people behind Pahlavi. Not the people on the streets (supported by SM bots), but the people behind the scenes funding and supporting him.
The Israeli influence operation aiming to Install Reza Pahlavi as Shah of Iran
Citizen Lab Found That an Online Network Pushed Out Deepfake Videos During Israel's Airstrikes on Tehran's Evin Prison. An Investigation by TheMarker and Haaretz Reveals the Persian-language Online Campaigns Indirectly Funded by Israelwww.haaretz.com
Yes let us attack countries we don't like, and spend billions of dollars of tax payer money, and expend our citizens lives.
Not like you have to sign up to go fight or anything.
Yes, thats what I was saying. I was contrasting between them and what preceded them.
So you do support an american/israeli war on Iran to install a puppet leader as there is no other way he becomes king.
The better alternative would be to end sanctions against Iran. The hardliners are all fuelled by the constant threat of war.
Take that away and the moderates can rise without a war internally.
The hardliners were hardliners before the sanctions. It isn't so much their fear of war, but the fact that they are hardliners that is the core of the issue.
So you don't have any moderate alternatives you can name right now.
Again, I am neither supporting or opposing Pahlavi. I am ambivalent.
But by your own admission there is no other option.
Also a leader with US/Israel backing is not automatically a puppet.
You seem to imply that a leader of Iran should be hostile towards both these countries to not be considered a puppet.
Why does it matter if I have an alternative, its not my country, let them choose.
Iran has a repressive government but so do a lot of countries. There is no reason why they need foreign intervention any more than america does.
Iranians are asking for regime change.
Pahlavi is an Iranian citizen who has a right to want to become leader of Iran.
In the absence of an alternative, Pahlavi seems to be the most popular choice.
Even if Iranians themselves are split on that opinion, and even if he comes with US backing, he is still better than Khomeini.
The foreign intervention is not one sided.
Iran themselves fund and arm, groups like Hamas and Hezbollah meddling in other nations affairs.
The original Shah was part of the UK/CIA plot to replace the democratic government, after they nationalized their oil. There was prosperity but then he ended up taking off with the oil money. Khomeini is unpopular but in Iran 2/3's are wary or don't support Pahlavi.
The stakes of a Pahlavi restoration
Iran’s last Shah presided over rapid economic growth, social transformation, and expanding opportunity, particularly for women. Yet the unresolved political legacy of Pahlavi rule continues to haunt Iran’s opposition.
engelsbergideas.com
What his father did has no bearing on what he will do.
And there is no measure on how much support Pahlavi has in Iran even if he has widespread diaspora support.
So it is best for him to run for leadership and find out. Let the Iranians choose instead of making determinations for them.
Sure, stop trump from invading and give Pahlavi a flight to Iran to see what he can do.
Or send trump to Hungary.
Which part of its different did you not understand? Trump is the most scrutinized potus in history...Congress will not approve an invasion or all out war.
What makes you think trump would abide by congress or any other law?
Why would a felon, fraud artist and pedo start obeying the law now, all of a sudden?
