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NadiaLovechanko

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I was trying to figure out what is an appropriate exchange in such a relationship. A mortgage in exchange for a couple evenings? Was this a figure of speech? I am getting bored of multiple years of SPs and MAs, I'd like more continuity/complicity.

But I find a second mortgage to be steep!

This is not a rhetorical question, honestly liked Nadia's post and would like to learn more on the topic. If both sides don't mind sharing their views.
a second mortgage may seem steep to some in theory but when broken down it’s not that bad

Say we have a 3k mortgage (just as an example), break that into three evenings in a month. That’s 1k a night, each night being 3h+ (for this argument I’ll say dinner and fun so 4h) that’s 250$h for an “SP” which is VERY good pricing IMO. Let alone the lady is taking away 3 evening she could have seen clients and made more…

I believe sugar relationships benefit the suitor if he has the time to spare & prefers longer dates. Personally I think a “second mortgage” is an amazing offer when you look at the big picture.
 

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a second mortgage may seem steep to some in theory but when broken down it’s not that bad

Say we have a 3k mortgage (just as an example), break that into three evenings in a month. That’s 1k a night, each night being 3h+ (for this argument I’ll say dinner and fun so 4h) that’s 250$h for an “SP” which is VERY good pricing IMO. Let alone the lady is taking away 3 evening she could have seen clients and made more…

I believe sugar relationships benefit the suitor if he has the time to spare & prefers longer dates. Personally I think a “second mortgage” is an amazing offer when you look at the big picture.
To be at the level of "second mortgage", trust needs to be earned and be there between both sides.

I met someone recently and she wanted the full mortgage payment on our second meet up before we jump into the bed (the 1st was a coffee meet- nothing happened).

Maybe, I wouldn't mind the "mortgage" payment in a lump sum at one if trust is there, let say after 1, 2, 3 months. But at first, for me the SB needs to be open to a PPM, 1st to build that trust and 2nd to build connection.

As soon as you're talking lump sum at the start, I'm gone... Only my opinion
 
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I was trying to figure out what is an appropriate exchange in such a relationship. A mortgage in exchange for a couple evenings? Was this a figure of speech? I am getting bored of multiple years of SPs and MAs, I'd like more continuity/complicity.

But I find a second mortgage to be steep!

This is not a rhetorical question, honestly liked Nadia's post and would like to learn more on the topic. If both sides don't mind sharing their views.
What is appropriate and acceptable will depend on the people involved and their budgets.

Originally when sugaring took hold a decade ago (and that's pre-inflation) 2K a month was considered on the low end and 15K plus a month was on the high end and this is without any guarantee of actual sex. So sugaring was never supposed to be a budget-friendly option but for men who have the means to spoil and uplift women they adore. It turned into something increasingly transactional and I think that’s what gutted sugaring. Because at that point, why not just become an escort and earn more money?

If we’re talking about arrangements with a sex worker I’m sure that there is a value proposition to be made where you can offer a sex worker who’s interested that you click well with some stability for some kind of a volume discount if you are reliable. But I also don’t see how this is going to be a budget-option since most ladies are going to want an arrangement of at least twice per month if not more and would probably prefer those to be longer dates.

So yeah, this won’t likely be interesting to people who are on a tight budget. For that, I’m sure we can all suggest other options.But arrangements have redeeming features for people who have some means and want reliability and a regular connection.

I’m not trying to push for this. My point was only that we should be allowed to talk and post about it freely everywhere. The exchange of resources for sex literally goes back to the first bipedal hominids!
 

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To be at the level of "second mortgage", trust needs to be earned and be there between both sides.

I met someone recently and she wanted the full mortgage payment on our second meet up before we jump into the bed (the 1st was a coffee meet- nothing happened).

Maybe, I wouldn't mind the "mortgage" payment in a lump sum at one if trust is there, let say after 1, 2, 3 months. But at first, for me the SB needs to be open to a PPM, 1st to build that trust and 2nd to build connection.

As soon as you're talking lump sum at the start, I'm gone... Only my opinion
I echo this statement ENTIRELY
 
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NadiaLovechanko

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Originally when sugaring took hold a decade ago (and that's pre-inflation) 2K a month was considered on the low end and 15K plus a month was on the high end and this is without any guarantee of actual sex. So sugaring was never supposed to be a budget-friendly option but for men who have the means to spoil and uplift women they adore. It turned into something increasingly transactional and I think that’s what gutted sugaring. Because at that point, why not just become an escort and earn more money?
This right here,
I get a couple PPM to make sure you have a connection (2 maybe 3?) but after that shit or get off the pot IMO
It's not about cheap sex, it's about relationship being beneficial for both & again it being a RELATIONSHIP.

In my experience my SD/SB relationships involved actual dates; going to movie, dinners, galleries, cuddling watching tv, cooking dinner together etc without there always being a promise of sex. It was about having a deeper connection & when things would heat up it was authentic & not because "I owe him".
 

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This right here,
I get a couple PPM to make sure you have a connection (2 maybe 3?) but after that shit or get off the pot IMO
It's not about cheap sex, it's about relationship being beneficial for both & again it being a RELATIONSHIP.

In my experience my SD/SB relationships involved actual dates; going to movie, dinners, galleries, cuddling watching tv, cooking dinner together etc without there always being a promise of sex. It was about having a deeper connection & when things would heat up it was authentic & not because "I owe him".
That does sound really like the way I thought it should be like.....nice!!
HB69......was here?!??!?
 
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I was trying to figure out what is an appropriate exchange in such a relationship. A mortgage in exchange for a couple evenings? Was this a figure of speech? I am getting bored of multiple years of SPs and MAs, I'd like more continuity/complicity.

But I find a second mortgage to be steep!

This is not a rhetorical question, honestly liked Nadia's post and would like to learn more on the topic. If both sides don't mind sharing their views.
If that number is too steep for you, you’re probably not able to afford the sugar daddy lifestyle. 🥲
 
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It all depends what you want. In my opinion. I put a young lady through university, with weekly intimacy dates. Another was just platonic, with some hands stuff, watching, but she was funny as hell, and flirty, so good. One was just texting and that was fine for the situation. Set your budget, don’t go into debt. I’m not a fan of being treated like a atm machine.. respect is the way to go, honesty.

If you are just looking for intimacy no strings , stay with SP/MA. If you want some more regular and someone’s that might care for you, to some extent, SB can work.
I just looked at it like having a gf, but no strings. How much

you spend when you have a girlfriend and all the love feelings. I was raising a child so no strings was ideal for me. And when she wasn’t available, and needs were present.. MA or SP.

Then you have to watch out for the women that lead you on so a few ppm dates is always ideal. My first experience was less than ideal, where I kept sending transfers with very little in return.

but have to say the adventures of an SB relationship can be super fun when both click, and not the strings of a relationship.

sometimes also just having a confidant you can trust and listens to your frustrations and thoughts is nice too.
 
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And I’ve use SB and Sd sites. Having to pay for credits is dumb. But it is what it is. Look for verified profiles. Much less chance of scam. But still a chance. Just lower odds. Tinder also is easy to find an SB just have to be up front and hopefully the other end is also
 
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Oh, and lastly, the build up to a SB partnership encounter can be very fun as opposed to MA/SP because you have a pre determined relationship as opposed to transactional with most SW’s. Or rather not wanting to feel like you are wasting their time with countless pre meeting texts
 

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I like the idea of making our own rules and thinking outside the box. Why should we be held to the conditions set by a commercial app? Personally, I’m always looking for ways to maximize my resources, including my time, assets and skills.

Some of you are excellent investors. An interesting arrangement could be a solid starter investment portfolio in exchange for some FWB perks. Or what about using your mechanical skills to refurbish a car for someone who needs that?

Just please don’t cold call escorts or women in general with unsolicited offers. Either post what you’re looking for here and wait to be approached or develop organic connections for this.

Some thoughts on PPMs and asking for women to invest more time in a “relationship” based off this premise. Too many men will approach women transactionally and then get offended when women give that same energy back. PPM is more aligned with an escort encounter if not a defacto escort encounter, so asking for that and expecting someone to offer you more is not particularly logical or fair. You guys are supposed to be the peacocks and sperm chasing the egg, so you go first. Show us you’re generous with small offers of kindness and no strings attached simply to demonstrate your amazing colours if you want women to pay more attention. And then of course, look for someone who is interested and trustworthy before you feather her nest.
 

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I was trying to figure out what is an appropriate exchange in such a relationship. A mortgage in exchange for a couple evenings? Was this a figure of speech? I am getting bored of multiple years of SPs and MAs, I'd like more continuity/complicity.

But I find a second mortgage to be steep!

This is not a rhetorical question, honestly liked Nadia's post and would like to learn more on the topic. If both sides don't mind sharing their views.
Lol
 
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