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Why ARE the US and Israel Obsessed With Eliminating Iran’s Ballistic Missiles?

JohnLarue

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What weapons Iran could have deployed to defend against
Israel's invasion you would call defensive weapons? Machine
guns?
the best defense Iranian leadership could implement for their citizens would be a change in objective

That objective is the elimination of the sovereign state of Israel and its citizens
an objective which is based on religious intolerance and inbred hatred.

Israel is not a threat to Iran just a soon as Iranian leaders figure out that Israel has a right to exist

the middle east is a powder keg, no need to light up a smoke near it

allowing religiously driven and hateful Iranian leaders to acquire nuclear weapon capability would be foolish.

religiously driven and hateful Iranian leaders will use them
'it is gods will ''
 

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the best defense Iranian leadership could implement for their citizens would be a change in objective

That objective is the elimination of the sovereign state of Israel and its citizens
an objective which is based on religious intolerance and inbred hatred.

Israel is not a threat to Iran just a soon as Iranian leaders figure out that Israel has a right to exist

the middle east is a powder keg, no need to light up a smoke near it

allowing religiously driven and hateful Iranian leaders to acquire nuclear weapon capability would be foolish.

religiously driven and hateful Iranian leaders will use them
'it is gods will ''
Every accusation by a Zionist is a confession
 
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the best defense Iranian leadership could implement for their citizens would be a change in objective

That objective is the elimination of the sovereign state of Israel and its citizens
an objective which is based on religious intolerance and inbred hatred.

Israel is not a threat to Iran just a soon as Iranian leaders figure out that Israel has a right to exist

the middle east is a powder keg, no need to light up a smoke near it

allowing religiously driven and hateful Iranian leaders to acquire nuclear weapon capability would be foolish.

religiously driven and hateful Iranian leaders will use them
'it is gods will ''
You do know that it was Israel that attacked Iran and not the other way around, right?
 

oil&gas

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the best defense Iranian leadership could implement for their citizens would be a change in objective
Elimination of sovereign states is not an objective of Canada. But
I would still want our military to add more submarines and fighter
jets to our arsenal. I don't want my country to shore up defense only
after we are invaded by Russia or the U.S. first however unlikely such
scenario would be. Iran has to be suicidal to discard (non-nuclear)
defensive weapons they have deployed to fight off invaders.

So again what defensive weapons other than ballistic missiles Iran could have
used to counterattack last time they were invaded?

.........
the middle east is a powder keg, no need to light up a smoke near it

allowing religiously driven and hateful Iranian leaders to acquire nuclear weapon capability would be foolish.
I abhor proliferation of nuclear weapons and I don't want to see Iran or
any states in the Middle East to possess them.

religiously driven and hateful Iranian leaders will use them
'it is gods will ''
 

nottyboi

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the best defense Iranian leadership could implement for their citizens would be a change in objective

That objective is the elimination of the sovereign state of Israel and its citizens
an objective which is based on religious intolerance and inbred hatred.

Israel is not a threat to Iran just a soon as Iranian leaders figure out that Israel has a right to exist

the middle east is a powder keg, no need to light up a smoke near it

allowing religiously driven and hateful Iranian leaders to acquire nuclear weapon capability would be foolish.

religiously driven and hateful Iranian leaders will use them
'it is gods will ''
Thats rubbish. Iran agreed to the JCPOA and the USA broke the deal. So why should they agree to another deal?
 

nottyboi

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Elimination of sovereign states is not an objective of Canada. But
I would still want our military to add more submarines and fighter
jets to our arsenal. I don't want my country to shore up defense only
after we are invaded by Russia or the U.S. first however unlikely such
scenario would be. Iran has to be suicidal to discard (non-nuclear)
defensive weapons they have deployed to fight off invaders.

So again what defensive weapons other than ballistic missiles Iran could have
used to counterattack last time they were invaded?



I abhor proliferation of nuclear weapons and I don't want to see Iran or
any states in the Middle East to possess them.
How on earth do you think Russia is gonna invade Canada. Do you realize what the undertaking would be? They would have to build a HUGE force in the artic, and a MASSIVE navy about 3 or 4 x the size of the USN, transport those troops around alaska and land either on the pacific coast or artic coast. Do you understand just how insanely hard that is? Do you understand the logistical challenges? Its a RETARDED fear.
 

oil&gas

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How on earth do you think Russia is gonna invade Canada. Do you realize what the undertaking would be? They would have to build a HUGE force in the artic, and a MASSIVE navy about 3 or 4 x the size of the USN, transport those troops around alaska and land either on the pacific coast or artic coast. Do you understand just how insanely hard that is? Do you understand the logistical challenges? Its a RETARDED fear.
At least during the first 1 or 2 years of the Ukraine proxy war invasion of
Russia into Canada was cited as one reason to give billions to Zelenskyy
to safeguard our democracy in the future.

I am of the view that spending money on our own military will do a
better job to strengthen our national security than wasting billions
on fueling the proxy war. I am simply going along with the narrative
our leaders want us to buy in my reference to Russian invasion of Canada.
 

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At least during the first 1 or 2 years of the Ukraine proxy war invasion of
Russia into Canada was cited as one reason to give billions to Zelenskyy
to safeguard our democracy in the future.

I am of the view that spending money on our own military will do a
better job to strengthen our national security than wasting billions
on fueling the proxy war. I am simply going along with the narrative
our leaders want us to buy in my reference to Russian invasion of Canada.
Yeah thats idiotic. Russia is not gonna invade Canada. It has much easier nations to invade on its own land mass. The only threat to Canada is the USA, so if we wanna counter that we would need to get nukes .
 

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.........................
The war has already started, yet they still actually believe the USA wants to negotiate.
Iran was indeed pearl-harbored by Israel's sneak-attack in the June war.
I believe Iran has learnt from the mistakes and are better prepared for
surprise Israel-U.S. joint attack then it appears.

I have a hunch Iran has already received new gadgets from China and
Russia to counter Israel's F-35 strikes. Interest time ahead. If military
conflict breaks out Trump will pay a dear price in the mid-term election
all for being Netanyahu's poodle.
 
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the middle east is a powder keg, no need to light up a smoke near it.
I couldn't agree more. How about we stay away from the powder keg? We can smoke all we want at home, without going near it. Cohiba, Montecristo, Romeo y Julieta ... what do you fancy?
 

nottyboi

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Iran was indeed pearl-harbored by Israel's sneak-attack in the June war.
I believe Iran has learnt from the mistakes and are better prepared for
surprise Israel-U.S. joint attack then it appears.

I have a hunch Iran has already received new gadgets from China and
Russia to counter Israel's F-35 strikes. Interest time ahead. If military
conflict breaks out Trump will pay a dear price in the mid-term election
all for being Netanyahu's poodle.
China has publicly published high resolution sat images of US bases in the range of Irans missile and since the 12 day war many of Irans missiles have been upgraded to the Baidu Military grade sat nav with 2m accuracy. Also China has given Iran their long range search radar which can detect stealth fighters 700 km away
 

JohnLarue

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I couldn't agree more. How about we stay away from the powder keg? We can smoke all we want at home, without going near it. Cohiba, Montecristo, Romeo y Julieta ... what do you fancy?
what do i fancy ?

the middle east recognize and accept Israel's right to exist, so everyone can benefit from the peace that would follow
now that would be something worthy of a stogie celebration
 

nottyboi

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what do i fancy ?

the middle east recognize and accept Israel's right to exist, so everyone can benefit from the peace that would follow
now that would be something worthy of a stogie celebration
who is the "middle east"? lol The Palestinians recognized Israel and the still are getting genocided.
 
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JohnLarue

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Elimination of sovereign states is not an objective of Canada. But
I would still want our military to add more submarines and fighter
jets to our arsenal. I don't want my country to shore up defense only
after we are invaded by Russia or the U.S. first however unlikely such
scenario would be. Iran has to be suicidal to discard (non-nuclear)
defensive weapons they have deployed to fight off invaders.
comparing Canada to the religiously driven and hateful Iranian regime is absurd
Canada certainly has never had ambitions to acquire nuclear weapons capability
Canada does not seek the Elimination of sovereign state

Canada has some problems (particularly since 2015), however, policy and specially military capability policy is not driven by fanatical religious doctrine and inbred hatred



So again what defensive weapons other than ballistic missiles Iran could have
used to counterattack last time they were invaded?
So again, had Iran recognized and accepted Israel's right to exist and abandon their objective to acquire nuclear weapons capabilities, there would not have been a raid.

your question is sort of like asking what steps can alcoholics take to ensure they do not die from liver failure.
stop drinking sounds like a plan


I abhor proliferation of nuclear weapons and I don't want to see Iran or
any states in the Middle East to possess them.
that's a 180 degree statement


BTW

AI Overview

Israel is widely believed to possess a nuclear arsenal, estimated at approximately 90 warheads, making it the only nuclear-armed state in the Middle East. Despite this, Israel maintains a strict policy of "deliberate ambiguity," neither confirming nor denying the existence of its program, and has not signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT).
like i said, the middle east is a powder keg.
no upside in Iran lighting a match with its objective to acquire nuclear weapons capabilities to point at the sovereign state of Israel
''it is gods will''

just downside for everyone in the middle east
 
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JohnLarue

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Every accusation by a Zionist is a confession
Every slogan statement by religiously driven, hate filled ideologues is void of intelligence.

i do not want to see a nuclear arms race in the middle east.
i do not want see a blood bath in the middle east .
and somehow you think i must be a Zionist ??

that boat sailed a long time ago

AI Overview

Israel has been a sovereign state for over 77 years, officially established on May 14, 1948.
I express a desire for reduced conflict in the middle east and you want to cancel me with a silly illogical slogan ?

you should not let ideological hatred cloud your thinking like that
 
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Frankfooter

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Is trump setting up for a long war with Iran?
How much more dirt can Netanyahu have on trump after the Epstein files?




 

Klatuu

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comparing Canada to the religiously driven and hateful Iranian regime is absurd
Canada certainly has never had ambitions to acquire nuclear weapons capability
Canada does not seek the Elimination of sovereign state

Canada has some problems (particularly since 2015), however, policy and specially military capability policy is not driven by fanatical religious doctrine and inbred hatred




So again, had Iran recognized and accepted Israel's right to exist and abandon their objective to acquire nuclear weapons capabilities, there would not have been a raid.

your question is sort of like asking what steps can alcoholics take to ensure they do not die from liver failure.
stop drinking sounds like a plan




that's a 180 degree statement


BTW



like i said, the middle east is a powder keg.
no upside in Iran lighting a match with its objective to acquire nuclear weapons capabilities to point at the sovereign state of Israel
''it is gods will''

just downside for everyone in the middle east
A pencil in need of a lot of sharpening.
 
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comparing Canada to the religiously driven and hateful Iranian regime is absurd
Canada certainly has never had ambitions to acquire nuclear weapons capability
Canada does not seek the Elimination of sovereign state
Canada has some problems (particularly since 2015), however, policy and specially military capability policy is not driven by fanatical religious doctrine and inbred hatred

So again, had Iran recognized and accepted Israel's right to exist and abandon their objective to acquire nuclear weapons capabilities, there would not have been a raid.
your question is sort of like asking what steps can alcoholics take to ensure they do not die from liver failure.
stop drinking sounds like a plan
that's a 180 degree statement
BTW

like i said, the middle east is a powder keg.
no upside in Iran lighting a match with its objective to acquire nuclear weapons capabilities to point at the sovereign state of Israel
''it is gods will''

just downside for everyone in the middle east
A pencil in need of a lot of sharpening.
At least John Larue has some thoughtful statements, all you provide is one liner insults.
 
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