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Why ARE the US and Israel Obsessed With Eliminating Iran’s Ballistic Missiles?

Insidious Von

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Iran is being strangled by religion, I agreed with JohnTwistedSisterLarue.

A treaty between the Venetian Republic and the Safavid Empire (Iran) in the late 15th Century forced the Ottomans to fight on two fronts. Limiting the Ottomans chances of taking half of Europe. Had there been no treaty the Adriatic would have become a Turkic lake.

 

Frankfooter

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Iran is not a POS Nation
it does however have religiously driven, hate fueled decision makers hell bent on obtaining nuclear weapon capabilities.
and they will use them
They aren't committing genocide and illegally occupying land from 3 countries.
I think that is the hate filled country you should be worried about, the one blackmailing the american government through a ring of pedos.

 
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nottyboi

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The addition of ballistic missiles to the "list" is because Iran fucked Israel up the ass with them in the summer, and the SHEER stupidity and naivety of Irans govt. Rather then stop the war they really should have wiped out a couple of Israeli air and naval bases. In particular the submarine base. They also shoulda lobbed a few at some illegal settlements in the West Bank just to rally the Muslim world around them and made it clear that in a war the settlements would be wiped clean. They also shoulda flattened Bibis house. In any case Iran is still being stupid. The fake negotiations are ongoing as the USA brings more carriers. Iran should establish an exclusion zone for US carriers and say that any ship carrying cruise missiles or carriers is subject to attack if it enters this zone as a preemptive defense. The war has already started, yet they still actually believe the USA wants to negotiate.
 
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JohnLarue

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Note that the focus in the article linked in the OP is on elimination of Iran's
ballistic missiles not nuclear weapons.
note that ballistic missiles are of limited deterrent value /relatively lower threat unless combined with chemical, biological or nuclear warheads


A sovereign state even a religious driven and hateful one does need (non-nuclear) missiles for self-defense.
absolutely not
a religious driven and hateful state will use them
'it is gods will ''

note that ballistic missiles are offensive weapons, not defensive weapons
 
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oil&gas

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Ghawar
note that ballistic missiles are of limited deterrent value /relatively lower threat unless combined with chemical, biological or nuclear warheads
Ballistic missiles equipped with conventional warheads has proven to be
an effective deterrent against Israel's Operation Rising Lion which turned into
Operation Running Rats. Netanyahu had to turn to Trump the American
guard dog of Israel to save his ass.


absolutely not
a religious driven and hateful state will use them
'it is gods will ''

note that ballistic missiles are offensive weapons, not defensive weapons
 
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JohnLarue

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Ballistic missiles equipped with conventional warheads has proven to be
an effective deterrent against Israel's Operation Rising Lion which turned into
Operation Running Rats. Netanyahu had to turn to Trump the American
guard dog of Israel to save his ass.

why do you require logic repeated for you?
note that ballistic missiles are of limited deterrent value /relatively lower threat unless combined with chemical, biological or nuclear warheads
note that ballistic missiles are offensive weapons, not defensive weapons
 

Klatuu

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why do you require logic repeated for you?
note that ballistic missiles are of limited deterrent value /relatively lower threat unless combined with chemical, biological or nuclear warheads
note that ballistic missiles are offensive weapons, not defensive weapons
Keep your day job
 

Insidious Von

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now you are making sense
do we have a potential convert in you ?
I don't need converting, Iran has the richest culture in the Middle East. Don't confuse the country with the barbaric Saudis. Isfahan was known as the Florence of the Middle East. The Mullahs need to bugger off to Qom, they're holding Iran back.

 

oil&gas

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Ghawar
why do you require logic repeated for you?
note that ballistic missiles are of limited deterrent value /relatively lower threat unless combined with chemical, biological or nuclear warheads
note that ballistic missiles are offensive weapons, not defensive weapons
What were those missiles Iran fired in defense against bombing
attacks from Israel called?
 
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Frankfooter

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why do you require logic repeated for you?
note that ballistic missiles are of limited deterrent value /relatively lower threat unless combined with chemical, biological or nuclear warheads
note that ballistic missiles are offensive weapons, not defensive weapons
So why is Israel trying to get america to invade Iran to destroy ballistic missiles?
 
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JohnLarue

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I don't need converting, Iran has the richest culture in the Middle East. Don't confuse the country with the barbaric Saudis. Isfahan was known as the Florence of the Middle East. The Mullahs need to bugger off to Qom, they're holding Iran back.
i agree completely with you.

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JohnLarue

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What were those missiles Iran fired in defense against bombing
attacks from Israel called?
call them desperation for all i care

AI Overview

Yes, ballistic missiles are primarily considered offensive weapons due to their design, purpose, and role in military doctrine. They are engineered to strike targets—often at great distances—with high speed, making them central components of strategic attack capabilities and nuclear deterrence.
 

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Larry C. Johnson

It appears the main topic of discussion at Wednesday’s meeting between Donald Trump and Bibi Netanyahu was Iran’s ballistic missile program. It really was not a discussion… Instead it was Bibi, with his advisers, trying to sell Trump and his team on the necessity of ending Iran’s ballistic missile capability. Why the emphasis on those missiles when, until recently, the big concern was whether Iran could build a nuclear bomb? The US and Israeli narrative about Iran’s missile and drone strikes in Israel during the 12-day war in June 2025 insists that Iran did little damage and that the combined might of US and Israeli air-defense systems knocked down 90% of the Iranian ballistic missiles. If that was true, why is Netanyahu pressing Trump touting on the need for Iran to eliminate its ballistic missile force?

I have the answer… We need only look at the damage Iran’s ballistic missiles caused in Israel during the 12-day war in June 2025 — based on reporting and independent analyses of the conflict (much of the detailed damage was initially censored or not fully disclosed by Israeli authorities, but independent and foreign sources have provided information).

Iran launched more than 1,000 ballistic missiles toward Israel over the 12 days, often in large salvos that overwhelmed the Israeli and US air defenses. Israel’s multilayered missile defense systems intercepted some, but a significant number still penetrated and struck targets. Hundreds of buildings in major cities such as Tel Aviv suburbs (Bat Yam, Ramat Gan) were damaged — with some buildings so badly hit they were later demolished. In Tel Aviv alone, analysts mapped damage to around 480 buildings across multiple strike sites.

Iranian missiles damaged key public facilities, such as theSoroka Medical Center in Be’er Sheva, which was hit by an Iranian missile, causing structural damage and chemical leaks; the affected wing was evacuated. Power and water infrastructure also were hit, contributing to service disruptions.

Iran’s ballistic strikes hit high-value facilities as well. The Weizmann Institute of Science (a major research institution in Rehovot) was severely damaged — with an estimated 90% of structures affected, destruction of dozens of labs, and suspension of about 25% of its operations.

Independent radar data and reporting showed that Iranian missiles directly hit around five Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) facilities, including an air base, intelligence center, and logistics base. Israeli authorities did not publicly confirm these hits at the time, due to military censorship. Israeli oil refining infrastructure — especially in Haifa Bay — also suffered direct hits and damage from Iranian missiles, including to critical units and pipelines at the Bazan refinery and associated casualties. The strike on the Bazan oil refinery complex in Haifa Bay, one of Israel’s most important energy facilities, heavily damaged the power generation unit and other infrastructure critical for operation.

Wednesday’s meeting between Trump and Netanyahu lasted nearly three hours (longer than scheduled) and, according to Israeli media, also included US Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, US Special Envoy Steve Witkoff, Jared Kushner, US Ambassador to Israel Mike Huckabee, Israel’s ambassador to the US Yechiel Leiter, Military Secretary Maj.-Gen. Roman Gofman, acting director of the National Security Council Gil Reich, Michael Eisenberg, Ziv Agmon, and advisor Ofir Falk.

So what did President Trump and Bibi talk about on Wednesday. According to the Jerusalem Post:

The prime minister presented intelligence on Iran’s military buildup, including developments related to its ballistic missile program. He also conveyed the message that if Trump decides to strike Iran, the operation should include targeting the ballistic missile project as well.

Haaretz echoed the Jerusalem Post’s report, but also noted that Netanyahu iis worried that Trump will strike a deal with Iran that ensures Iran does not and will not have a nuke. Netanyahu thinks that would be bad for Israel:

Messages from the Prime Minister’s Office indicate that such a deal would be bad not only for Israel but for the entire Middle East. Netanyahu was expected to attempt to thwart an agreement that does not include significant restrictions on ballistic missile production in Iran, while at the same time avoiding being perceived as encouraging the United States to go to war with unpredictable outcomes.

Remember all the times that Bibi showed up at the UN and the US Congress with pictures of an imaginary Iranian nuclear bomb? The bomb is no longer the Israeli priority… Eliminating Iran’s ballistic missiles is now number one on the hit list because Israel took a severe beating last June and Netanyhu fears what Iran could do if Iran makes good on its threats to unleash its missile force if attacked.

Trump tried to placate Bibi by announcing that he has ordered the Navy to PREPARE to deploy another carrier strike group to the Arabian Sea. The key word is PREPARE… Preparing is not the same as a Deployment Order. I am happy to say that I was wrong about the US launching an attack this week. Based on Trump’s account of the session with Bibi, there is going to be at least one more round of talks in Oman between the US and Iran before a new attack on Iran is unleashed.

Despite Trump’s constant boasting about the mighty prowess of the US military, the US lacks the capability to destroy Iran’s ballistic missile force. For starters, the Iranian missiles are stored below ground in hardened tunnels that are scattered across Iran. The US military embarrassed itself last March when it failed to destroy the Houthi ballistic missiles during the seven weeks of Operation Rough Rider… Finding and destroying a mobile missile launcher is damn hard. Unlike Yemen, which did not have an integrated air-defense system or an air force, Iran has both. The lack of air supremacy by the US complicates the task of locating and destroying ballistic missiles in Iran. And that is assuming that Iran is not also using decoys in order to deplete the US inventory of missiles it would use to destroy the Iranian capability.

Iran is willing and ready to make a deal that will assure Trump that it is not building a nuke. And, based on Rick Sanchez’s recent interview with Iran’s Foreign Minister Araghchi, Iran is willing to make concessions on the enrichment of uranium. While Trump will be loathe to admit it, if he accepts Iran’s offer then he is in effect reviving the JCPOA.

Danny Davis and I discussed the situation with Iran in depth today:

Andrey Klintsevich, a Russian military and political analyst, who is a co-chair of the International Unity Club, interviewed me last Wednesday (the video just posted today on the Club’s YouTube channel) about the political situation in the United States:

I would be worried too, if I was one of Iran's neighbours
 
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