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niniveh said:
www.lifesitenews.com

Cardinal Pizzaballa slams US-backed 'Board of Peace' for Gaza as 'colonialist operation' - LifeSite

The Latin Patriarch of Jerusalem said the Trump-backed ‘Board of Peace’ plan hands Palestine’s fate to outsiders while arguing the Catholic Church should not take part.
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The fate of every group that starts a war which they were bound to lose, and which had catastrophic results for its civilians, will always be in the hands of outsiders. I do agree that churches should play no role in the peace process, because they have nothing to contribute.
 
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Dutch Oven said:
The fate of every group that starts a war which they were bound to lose, and which had catastrophic results for its civilians, will always be in the hands of outsiders. I do agree that churches should play no role in the peace process, because they have nothing to contribute.
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People who are occupied and brutally oppressed for any stretch of time have a nasty proclivity, and the right, to rise in revolt. Similarly, rather than be incinerated in the ovens of Dachau & Auschwitz, the folks in Warsaw rose in revolt without, I am sure, wasting little time in speculating whether "their fate would be in the hands of outsiders."
 
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People who are occupied and brutally oppressed for any stretch of time have a nasty proclivity, and the right, to rise in revolt. Similarly, rather than be incinerated in the ovens of Dachau & Auschwitz, the folks in Warsaw rose in revolt without, I am sure, wasting little time in speculating whether "their fate would be in the hands of outsiders."
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The Jews in Europe didn't start a war. Hamas did.
 
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"He started it" is a pathetic excuse for a continuing genocide.
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Hamas could have ended the destruction of Gaza and death of Gazan innocents much earlier if only they had released the hostages shortly after the Oct. 7 attack.

They still would have been able to bargain for the 1,000's of criminals/detainees that Israel released in exchange for the hostages as they were gradually released, because that's what Israel does.

Not releasing the hostages gave Netanyahu all the justification he needed in Israel to continue the retaliation right up to when the last hostage was (reluctantly) returned.

On the other hand, the prolonged destruction did give Hamas the sympathy of much of the world, and allowed closeted antisemitism to be openly displayed around the world.

So maybe Hamas thought it was worth the destruction of Gazan cities, the killing, injury, and starvation of Gazan innocents, for the propaganda that generated, and to declare a moral victory.

Kind of shows how much Hamas cared about the Gazan citizens.

Now Gazan citizens are returning to rubble and destruction, with an almost impossible amount of time, money, and effort needed to rebuild.

And if anybody really believes Hamas will disarm and give up political power in Gaza, I worry about their level of intelligence...

So what can the Board of Peace, with, at this point, almost no powerful members that Hamas will respect, possibly achieve?
 
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Hamas could have ended the destruction of Gaza and death of Gazan innocents much earlier if only they had released the hostages shortly after the Oct. 7 attack.
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They offered to return all the hostages on Oct 9.
The reason the genocide is still continuing is because Netanyahu wants it and the people of Israel want genocide.

Its not because of the victims of the genocide.

You might as well blame Jews for the Holocaust while you're at it.
 
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xmontrealer said:
Hamas could have ended the destruction of Gaza and death of Gazan innocents much earlier if only they had released the hostages shortly after the Oct. 7 attack.

They still would have been able to bargain for the 1,000's of criminals/detainees that Israel released in exchange for the hostages as they were gradually released, because that's what Israel does.

Not releasing the hostages gave Netanyahu all the justification he needed in Israel to continue the retaliation right up to when the last hostage was (reluctantly) returned.

On the other hand, the prolonged destruction did give Hamas the sympathy of much of the world, and allowed closeted antisemitism to be openly displayed around the world.

So maybe Hamas thought it was worth the destruction of Gazan cities, the killing, injury, and starvation of Gazan innocents, for the propaganda that generated, and to declare a moral victory.

Kind of shows how much Hamas cared about the Gazan citizens.

Now Gazan citizens are returning to rubble and destruction, with an almost impossible amount of time, money, and effort needed to rebuild.

And if anybody really believes Hamas will disarm and give up political power in Gaza, I worry about their level of intelligence...

So what can the Board of Peace, with, at this point, almost no powerful members that Hamas will respect, possibly achieve?
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Nobody believes that lame, low IQ horseshit anymore. You were brainwashed from birth. The more you peddle this crap, the greater the reckoning is going to be. It insults the intelligence of anyone who reads it.
 
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xmontrealer said:
Hamas could have ended the destruction of Gaza and death of Gazan innocents much earlier if only they had released the hostages shortly after the Oct. 7 attack.
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I dont know how naive one has to be to believe that Netanyahu would have stopped the attack on Gaza had Hamas handed over the hostages.
I think you know he wouldn't have.
But you are in denial because you see the destruction but don't want to admit what you already know.
That the Jewish nation that was formed in the aftermath of a genocide has deliberately committed an act of genocide in Gaza.
 
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I dont know how naive one has to be to believe that Netanyahu would have stopped the attack on Gaza had Hamas handed over the hostages.
I think you know he wouldn't have.
But you are in denial because you see the destruction but don't want to admit what you already know.
That the Jewish nation that was formed in the aftermath of a genocide has deliberately committed an act of genocide in Gaza.
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I honestly don't think the Israelis, and liberal Jews in the diaspora (which most are), would have supported the continued attacks on Gaza and it's general population, once they considered any sort of "eye for an eye" retaliation for Oct. 7 was accomplished.

They would have forced Netanyahu to stop, regardless of his obvious desire to keep going.

Most likely Netanyahu also believes that Hamas will not disarm and give up power, so he knows he will be able to continue as long as the Israeli attacks are limited in scope to whatever Hamas is also doing in "the ceasefire".

The refusal of Hamas to release the hostages struck deep into Jewish hearts, especially the Israelis, as has been demonstrated historically time and time again.

As I have said before, what other nation do you know of that has been repeatedly willing to release 1,000's of detainees and criminals (including in Israel's case convicted Gazan terrorists) for one hostage of their own?
 
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xmontrealer said:
I honestly don't think the Israelis, and liberal Jews in the diaspora (which most are), would have supported the continued attacks on Gaza and it's general population, once they considered any sort of "eye for an eye" retaliation for Oct. 7 was accomplished.

They would have forced Netanyahu to stop, regardless of his obvious desire to keep going.
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Didn't you hear about the protests in Israel?
They did try to stop him and call for an end to the war.
Even the representative of the families of the hostages said that Netanyahu was the biggest barrier to the return of the hostages.
Netanyahu has his own agenda.
If hostages were such a priority for him, why would he carpet bomb Gaza where the hostages themselves are located?
It doesn't make sense.
 
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Shaquille Oatmeal said:
Didn't you hear about the protests in Israel?
They did try to stop him and call for an end to the war.
Even the representative of the families of the hostages said that Netanyahu was the biggest barrier to the return of the hostages.
Netanyahu has his own agenda.
If hostages were such a priority for him, why would he carpet bomb Gaza where the hostages themselves are located?
It doesn't make sense.
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Did you really just say that Netanyahu was the biggest barrier to the return of the hostages?

I don't know how I'm still typing while I'm ROTFLMAO.

Once again, Shaq, I have to disengage when the discussion gets that silly.

On this subject the only difference between you and the other antisemites here is that I haven't blocked you yet.

I will now rectify that...
 
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xmontrealer said:
Did you really just say that Netanyahu was the biggest barrier to the return of the hostages?
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I didn't. The families of the hostages did.
Looks like you run away every time someone points out your gaslighting on this subject.
Families of Israeli hostages still being held by Hamas have said Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is the "one obstacle" preventing their return and reaching a peace deal.
The Hostages and Missing Families Forum wrote on social media that Israel's strike on Qatar last week shows "every time a deal approaches, Netanyahu sabotages it".
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www.bbc.com

Netanyahu is only obstacle to bringing hostages home, families say

Their intervention comes as US Secretary of State Marco Rubio arrives in Israel to meet the Israeli PM.
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