10 dead, including perpetrator in school shooting in Tumbler Ridge, BC

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This is the government's fuck up. They should find a safe storage manufacturer for rifles and ammunition and say moving forward Canadians should only buy this particular safe that perhaps comes in 3 or 4 different sizes to accomodate various gun collections or buy more safes if you have a larger collection. And state if thieves break into it then it's not the fault of the gun owner at all. Why should it be???

If it took burglars 2 days to break open a safe when the owner was down in Florida why was the blame put on him??? Most general safes can be opened that way with such tools compared to a bank vault or so. Then that gun owner who was a gun trainer also had to stay longer in Florida to avoid coming back to Canada to be arrested. Not sure what happened later on, but bullshit is the answer for the law to even think about charging him. What if it took the crooks 5-7 days to finally crack it open? It's still his fault? What if he had cash and gold inside the safe? Would insurance say it's his fault when it took crooks days to break it open with a sledgehammer and blowtorch not a general hammer.
they can make gun safes a requirement upon purchase.
I've got a problem with this; if the government wants to bottleneck the market and specify a specific safe, then they should foot at least part of the bill.
 

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This is such a stupid take. And shows your inability to grasp first order logic. 9 people are dead, some of whom are not even teenagers, and you're pulling at the one part of the tragedy that doesn't matter at all. The point should be doing the maximum to make sure it doesnt happen again. So I am going to take the time to write this out in small words that you can process... Sorry, Understand... Sorry, "know what they mean":

IT DOES NOT MATTER THAT THE SHOOTER WAS TRANSGENDER... sorry, "wore different clothes than they might as someone with a penis".

IT MATTERS THAT THEY HAD A SEVERE ENOUGH MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEM THAT THEY WERE REMOVED (took out of) THEIR HOME ON AT LEAST ONCE.

THAT SHOULD BE ENOUGH TO HAVE THE GUNS REMOVED FROM THEIR HOME PERMANENTLY (for ever).

THIS SHOULD APPLY TO ALL PEOPLE WITH MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEMS THAT MAKE THEM VIOLENT.

THE VAST MAJORITY (the most, by a lot) OF SCHOOL/MASS SHOOTINGS ARE CARRIED OUT BY STRAIGHT WHITE MEN. WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS THAT WE SHOULD TAKE ALL GUNS AWAY FROM STRAIGHT WHITE MEN, BECAUSE THAT WOULD DO THE MOST TO STOP FUTURE SHOOTINGS.

I tried to keep the words small for you. I added more information in brackets (<- these things ->) where I had to use a big word.

I hope that helps.
It's stupid because you can't answer how you come up with your diagnosis?
 
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We cannot control for intent because we aren't mind readers.
However a gun is designed to kill. That is its only purpose. It is a weapon. A car is not. So we can ban the weapon that is designed to kill.
A gun safe is easier to access, break into, a gun by itself does not have the safety features a car has.
Of course you can break a car window easier than you can a gun safe. However after breaking the window what would you do?
You have immobilizers, GPS tracking, and so on, that gun safes and guns don't.
You are not hot wiring a car like they show you in the movies.
To fully steal a car is far more difficult than a gun.
So it is false equivalence.
You can not control intent but you can definitely control safety.
If there is a person who can develop skills to open a gun safety case....just like there is a person who will have skills to open a car (probably even more)
A gun is designed to kill but also not easy to purchase, compared to a car. they both can be weapons...just like a knife that you can even purchase at dollarama.
If someone decides to break open a car window with the intent of driving it, then you know they already figured out how to start it. (I bet my left nut there are more stolen cars than stolen guns)
GPS tracking, yes the owner can GPS track his vehicle as it rams through a few people if the driver intends to...lol.
 
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The killer's mother probably petitioned to have the rifles back because her and her kids enjoy hunting especially living in that area. She sadly failed to secure the rifles safely. Somewhere along the lines she messed up securing the guns and maybe cops will be able to determine that through investigation. Personally if I had a kid who was prone to random violent lashouts and such I wouldn't let them use a rifle even to hunt. Who's to say they don't kill their parent while out hunting? And if you have someone inside your home with that kinda mental health issue then the law should say you need a certain safe such as that 1700lbs concrete/steel one even to hunt. Can't afford it? Too bad. If the parent is away and a 18 or 21 year old breaks into it after days of using heavy tools then the gun owner shouldn't be blamed.

Does an off duty cop get blamed if their storage unit at home is broken into? I doubt most of them own a 1700lbs concrete/steel mix unit.
How about.....

Until the mentally ill person is out of the home no guns allowed into the home?

Sounds pretty basic to me.
 
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You can not control intent but you can definitely control safety.
Yes, and it is safest when there are no guns.
If there is a person who can develop skills to open a gun safety case....just like there is a person who will have skills to open a car (probably even more)
Opening a car is easy. You just throw a rock at the window.
Starting a modern car and making away with it is harder than brute forcing through a standard gun safe.
A gun is designed to kill but also not easy to purchase, compared to a car. they both can be weapons...just like a knife that you can even purchase at dollarama.
Anything can be used as a weapon.
A rock freely found in nature can be used to kill.
However, none of them, except a gun is designed specifically to kill.
If someone decides to break open a car window with the intent of driving it, then you know they already figured out how to start it. (I bet my left nut there are more stolen cars than stolen guns)
GPS tracking, yes the owner can GPS track his vehicle as it rams through a few people if the driver intends to...lol.
Yes, and it is significantly more difficult to do with specialized equipment that is difficult to access, than to cut through a gun case with commonly available power tools.
 
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Yes, and it is safest when there are no guns.

Opening a car is easy. You just throw a rock at the window.
Starting a modern car and making away with it is harder than brute forcing through a standard gun safe.

Anything can be used as a weapon.
A rock freely found in nature can be used to kill.
However, none of them, except a gun is designed specifically to kill.

Yes, and it is significantly more difficult to do with specialized equipment that is difficult to access, than to cut through a gun case with commonly available power tools.
like I said...if the intention is there...it won't matter if it's a gun, car, knife baseball bat or hammer (probably easier than guns they don't need bullets)
It just shows you lack the common sense of gun ownership. a knife was also invented to kill...so is a club a.k.a bat.maybe we should ban those... no matter what it's designed for, if it's capable of killing someone...we should ban them if we follow your logic. now you're moving your goalpost to "starting a modern car" because "car" alone doesn't really prove your argument...just like putting the trans in trans woman...lmao.
 
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like I said...if the intention is there...it won't matter if it's a gun, car, knife baseball bat or hammer (probably easier than guns they don't need bullets)
It just shows you lack the common sense of gun ownership. a knife was also invented to kill...so is a club a.k.a bat.maybe we should ban those... no matter what it's designed for, if it's capable of killing someone...we should ban them if we follow your logic. now you're moving your goalpost to "starting a modern car" because "car" alone doesn't really prove your argument...just like putting the trans in trans woman...lmao.
You can't speak common sense and expect liberals to understand. It's all mental gymnastics and imaginary semantics. Hey, that rhymed :ROFLMAO:
 

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like I said...if the intention is there...it won't matter if it's a gun, car, knife baseball bat or hammer (probably easier than guns they don't need bullets)
Come back to me after you work out a way to mind read. Until then, ban and confiscate.
And no, a kitchen knife was invented to chop up veggies, a bat is to play a game. None of them are designed to kill. Only a gun is.
 

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you don't need to read minds...you just need to have the common sense regarding gun safety. here's some news...it's not banned...lmao.
Gun safety, is for the gun owner to exercise.
That doesn't guarantee a reduction in gun crime. So ban, confiscate and require people to register.
A gun free society is a gun crime free society.
And here's news for you, come October assault weapons are banned in Canada. lmfao.
 

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And thus, once again the effects of systemic racism were used to justify more systemic racism.
No racism required, systemic or otherwise. Card everyone. Stop and frisk everyone. If a disproportionate number of black men are caught with illegal guns, thats because they are disproportionately involved in the illegal gun trade.
 
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A Canadian lesbian on social is saying the first victim is the shooter because they were bullied

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You know, eliminate the internet and social media and this whole trans thing isn't an issue.

The whole concept is just a social contagion/ woke mind virus that infected the net.

Preying on young sexually confused kids searching for self worth and acceptance.

Add to that the virtue signalling leftists looking for some perceived victims to champion.

In Ontario psychologists are required to ''gender affirm'' whatever their patient declares. If they open the topic questioning their patients claims they could lose their licence. How crazy is that?
 
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