since we've been debating about man can be women and vise versa....right then and there it's hard to convince you about common sense...but i will keep on trying to awaken that common sense out of ya...
10 dead, including perpetrator in school shooting in Tumbler Ridge, BC
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Yes, and they need the keys to do so.
With a gun anyone can pull the trigger and the weapon would work. It does not have inherent safety features that cars do.
So its apples to oranges comparison.
Gobbledygook.
Because they are biologically male and transitioned. Gender identity and sex are not the same.
guns don't lie around in cupboards (unless you're irresponsible)
They are in safes or guncases with locks just like cars (logical)...you have a lot to learn about gun ownership.
transitioning doesn't change your biology.
Gun cases are easier to break in than cars.
And regarding transitioning, it does change biological characteristics like hormone levels, body composition etc.,
Gun safes are harder to break in than cars lmao.
Also transitioning doesn't change biologically, it may lower hormone levels, body composition is the same...males don't generate eggs and females don't generate sperms... women don't grow balls and men don't naturally develop vaginas...they can get surgery and make a vagina-like orifice where their balls and penis used to be...let me know how good that feels when you fuck one....i'd like to hear from your experience...
Of course gun safes are easier to break in and once broken in the guns are easy to use. Not the case with cars.
Changing hormone levels, body composition etc are biological changes lmao.
Lorne Gunter: Canada's laws on the safe storage of firearms need clarifying
If a senior provincial judge and two senior lawyers cannot make sense of Canada’s safe-storage gun laws, how can ordinary gun owners be expected to? Once the federa…
nationalpost.com
"thieves worked to open the 770 kilogram concrete and steel safe he had had installed in his north Toronto apartment. For nearly two days, burglars used sledgehammers and blowtorches to open the vault..."
And the owner was still charged with unsafe storage.
Criminalization, is what it is; I'll say it again and again, it's not about public safety, it's about politics.
This,more than anything else, is what people should be focused on:
1: Person in mental health crisis (separate from being transgender), multiple calls to police
2: Guns removed from home
3: Guns given back
4: Everyone dead.
The mom already paid for her mistake, but changes need to be made to make sure the mistake can't be made again. Just like people with domestic violence charges and animal cruelty charges shouldn't be allowed near guns, as that's a real correlation.
Yeah and I am willing to bet most people don't have a 770KG concrete and steel safe at home. Example: This particular shooting in BC.Lorne Gunter: Canada's laws on the safe storage of firearms need clarifying
If a senior provincial judge and two senior lawyers cannot make sense of Canada’s safe-storage gun laws, how can ordinary gun owners be expected to? Once the federa…
"thieves worked to open the 770 kilogram concrete and steel safe he had had installed in his north Toronto apartment. For nearly two days, burglars used sledgehammers and blowtorches to open the vault..."
And the owner was still charged with unsafe storage.
Criminalization, is what it is; I'll say it again and again, it's not about public safety, it's about politics.
Also how is it safe storage if the burglars were able to get to the guns anyway?
These guns were locked up. They were legal guns.
Now that they were stolen, they are now illegal guns. It supports my point that illegal guns start of as legal guns.
So the governments direction to remove guns from circulation is correct.
Had this home owner been required to hand in his guns, there wouldnt have been a burglary, and there wouldnt be a charge, and there wouldnt be illegal guns.
Thank you for making my case for me.
like i said intent is key...if you can break a gun safe, you can also break into a vehicle. legally or illegally both can be deadly weapons with intent.
as for trans discussion...those are esthetical alteration doesn't change biologically...again..let me know how it feels to fuck an orifice that used to be balls and penis...when you can confirm it delivers just like a woman's vagina does...then i might change my mind....
How were you able to diagnose this person and come up with that conclusion sitting behind a computer that there's no connection between mental health and being transgender...
We cannot control for intent because we aren't mind readers.
However a gun is designed to kill. That is its only purpose. It is a weapon. A car is not. So we can ban the weapon that is designed to kill.
A gun safe is easier to access, break into, a gun by itself does not have the safety features a car has.
Of course you can break a car window easier than you can a gun safe. However after breaking the window what would you do?
You have immobilizers, GPS tracking, and so on, that gun safes and guns don't.
You are not hot wiring a car like they show you in the movies.
To fully steal a car is far more difficult than a gun.
So it is false equivalence.
I am not talking surgery, although surgery is a biological alteration too.
I am talking hormonal changes, body composition changes etc., They are biological changes.
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This is such a stupid take. And shows your inability to grasp first order logic. 9 people are dead, some of whom are not even teenagers, and you're pulling at the one part of the tragedy that doesn't matter at all. The point should be doing the maximum to make sure it doesnt happen again. So I am going to take the time to write this out in small words that you can process... Sorry, Understand... Sorry, "know what they mean":
IT DOES NOT MATTER THAT THE SHOOTER WAS TRANSGENDER... sorry, "wore different clothes than they might as someone with a penis".
IT MATTERS THAT THEY HAD A SEVERE ENOUGH MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEM THAT THEY WERE REMOVED (took out of) THEIR HOME ON AT LEAST ONCE.
THAT SHOULD BE ENOUGH TO HAVE THE GUNS REMOVED FROM THEIR HOME PERMANENTLY (for ever).
THIS SHOULD APPLY TO ALL PEOPLE WITH MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEMS THAT MAKE THEM VIOLENT.
THE VAST MAJORITY (the most, by a lot) OF SCHOOL/MASS SHOOTINGS ARE CARRIED OUT BY STRAIGHT WHITE MEN. WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS THAT WE SHOULD TAKE ALL GUNS AWAY FROM STRAIGHT WHITE MEN, BECAUSE THAT WOULD DO THE MOST TO STOP FUTURE SHOOTINGS.
I tried to keep the words small for you. I added more information in brackets (<- these things ->) where I had to use a big word.
I hope that helps.
