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10 dead, including perpetrator in school shooting in Tumbler Ridge, BC

cunning linguist

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They are not being punished.
Guns are an issue and everyone has to do their part including giving up guns they don't even use to help remove it from circulation.
I've already done my part by acting responsibly, guilt tripping only works if someone's guilty. Moving the goal posts despite compliance is absolutely punitive, otherwise it wouldn't carry the threat of criminal charges.
 
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Shaquille Oatmeal

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"In Toronto, the police have begun releasing Race and Identity-Based Data (RBDC). These reports have shown that Black individuals are disproportionately represented in "enforcement actions" and as victims of gun violence."
My response is that this is exactly what I said.
So in Toronto, not in Canada.
And you didn't answer my other question about carding, stop and frisk.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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I've already done my part by acting responsibly, guilt tripping only works if someone's guilty. Moving the goal posts despite compliance is absolutely punitive, otherwise it wouldn't carry the threat of criminal charges.
Owning guns in Canada is a privilege. Not a right.
The government has decided that there should be no more guns in society for public safety reasons.
You as a citizen should comply as it is not punitive towards you, but it is a change in laws to ensure public safety.
Ironically if you don't, come October, you will no longer be a law abiding gun owner. lol.
 

cunning linguist

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The government has decided that there should be no more guns in society for public safety reasons.
An illinformed decision doesn't make it any less wrong. They are ignoring facts, as are you. You're not arguing with facts (as your your continued lack of statistics shows) it's about feelings. It's not about public safety, it's about politics. The current price tag is $800 million and will likely exceed that; regardless of how unsuccessful it proves to be. The return-on-investment will be scrutinized in the aftermath, just as the previous registry's was.

Ironically if you don't, come October, you will no longer be a law abiding gun owner. lol.
What's actually ironic, is a self-proclaimed civil rights proponent, supporting the criminalization of an entire group of people. If you didn't have double standards, you wouldn't have any.
 

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"In Toronto, the police have begun releasing Race and Identity-Based Data (RBDC). These reports have shown that Black individuals are disproportionately represented in "enforcement actions" and as victims of gun violence."

My response is that this is exactly what I said.
And thus, once again the effects of systemic racism were used to justify more systemic racism.
 

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And yet there are still millions of licensed gun owners in Canada, on any given day, who've done nothing wrong and acted responsibly.

If you want to extrapolate this incident to somehow be representative of licensed gun owners, what does that say about the transgendered community?
My point is simple. Do you think guns should be allowed in a home where police have been called for a mental health crisis? Or should they be taken away until the issue within the house is resolved?
 
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Shaquille Oatmeal

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They are ignoring facts, as are you.
What's actually ironic, is a self-proclaimed civil rights proponent, supporting the criminalization of an entire group of people.
It is about facts.
Less guns, less crime.
And people are not being criminalized. Certain guns are.
 

cunning linguist

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It is about facts.
Less guns, less crime.
And people are not being criminalized. Certain guns are.
I've asked you at least three times, in this thread, for facts, that support your claim that freezing the legal market has had a measurable impact on the availability of illegal guns in Canada in the past six years.

Here's your last chance for redemption.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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I've asked you at least three times, in this thread, for facts, that support your claim that freezing the legal market has had a measurable impact on the availability of illegal guns in Canada in the past six years.

Here's your last chance for redemption.
Tackling illegal guns in circulation is not a goal of the legal market freeze.
It is to reduce guns in circulation to prevent potential future gun crimes, to reduce the number of legal guns in possession amongst citizens and to outlaw certain weapons outright.
You keep conflating the two issues while accusing others of doing so.
 
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It must be such a relief to have a safe space here in the politics forum.
A place where you don't have to talk about pedos, corruption, ICE or genocide and get back to a safe subject for the right wing.
Demonizing LGBTQ
 

cunning linguist

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Tackling illegal guns in circulation is not a goal of the legal market freeze.
It is to reduce guns in circulation to prevent potential future gun crimes, to reduce the number of legal guns in possession amongst citizens and to outlaw certain weapons outright.
You keep conflating the two issues while accusing others of doing so.
So still no stats.

Myth, busted.
 

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You cannot open a car door or start a car without the keys, if you don't own it unless one is a car thief and they'd need specialized equipment for it.
Anyone can operate a gun on the other hand, even if it doesn't belong to them.
If you connect it to this particular case...the same person can operate the vehicle his mom or dad owns to ran over anybody....like I said....intent is key...the medium used to kill someone can be legally acquired or illegaly acquired...it's the person operating behind it is what makes it deadly...not the object.
 
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