10 dead, including perpetrator in school shooting in Tumbler Ridge, BC

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Funny how, when the rumour is that the shooter was trans, now Liberals think "thoughts and prayers" and "wait and see" are appropriate responses.

My hot take, Liberals actually love shootings; it gifts them a "gotcha" moment. In before the word salads and mental gymnastics about how this is somehow still licensed gun owners' fault.
You really are a cunning linguist.;):ROFLMAO:
 

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Funny how, when the rumour is that the shooter was trans, now Liberals think "thoughts and prayers" and "wait and see" are appropriate responses.

My hot take, Liberals actually love shootings; it gifts them a "gotcha" moment. In before the word salads and mental gymnastics about how this is somehow still licensed gun owners' fault.
You are a one hit wonder. Only crawling out on shooting days.
 
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well there it is... gun aren't the problem...irresponsible owners are...
It's more complicated than that. Gun control isn't just about types of weapons. I'm all for banning everything but 2 shot shotguns, and bolt action rifles with limited mags. But people should be free to own them.

Where we need strict controls is, as you say, owners. Including regular mental health testing, regular safety testing and more.

Cripes as an employee I have to take WHMIS training every so often, servers have to get SmartServe renewed, and many others need to update in various ways.

So this, along with a home review, which would have noted what appears to be a mentally ill person living there, could have helped prevent this.
 
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It's funny, when someone weaponizes a car and kills someone there is never any talk about banning them or tightening regulations on driving. I wonder why that is?:unsure:
Because cars are not specifically designed to kill living things. Guns are. Pretty simple really..
 

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It's more complicated than that. Gun control isn't just about types of weapons. I'm all for banning everything but 2 shot shotguns, and bolt action rifles with limited mags. But people should be free to own them.

Where we need strict controls is, as you say, owners. Including regular mental health testing, regular safety testing and more.

Cripes as an employee I have to take WHMIS training every so often, servers have to get SmartServe renewed, and many others need to update in various ways.

So this, along with a home review, which would have noted what appears to be a mentally ill person living there, could have helped prevent this.
I would say limit the clips to one. register every clip before it goes out of the store. discharged casings should also be reported. harsher punishments on gunowners who's guns resulted to death. even harsher punishments on someone with illegally acquired guns and life imprisonment as minimum if it results to death. If we can't impliment harsh punishments for these actions...nothing will be fixed.
 

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Word is it's a "trans" person ... again.
Lenny59 wants a Final Solution to the trans problem.

I looked up where Tumbler Ridge is in BC. Northen BC has a very bad Chrystal Meth problem. Tumbler Ridge is an isolated community, the closest big town to it is Edmonton which is 663 Km away (according to Google Maps). Under the influence anything can happen.

An active shooter alert has been released.

 
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I would say limit the clips to one. register every clip before it goes out of the store. discharged casings should also be reported. harsher punishments on gunowners who's guns resulted to death. even harsher punishments on someone with illegally acquired guns and life imprisonment as minimum if it results to death. If we can't impliment harsh punishments for these actions...nothing will be fixed.
Registration leads to confiscation.

Criminals don't register their unpinned magazines; magazines and casings don't even have serial numbers. Cops (or any pistol shooter, for that matter) aren't taught to retain magazines when reloading. Magazines are consumables; they eventually have to be rebuilt or replaced. You now need a PAL to buy a magazine at retail; criminals don't buy magazines from retail stores.
 
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Because cars are not specifically designed to kill living things. Guns are. Pretty simple really..
Semantics Jeeves. Anything can be weaponized by someone with bad intentions. In the UK they have literally banned KNIVES. Has it stopped stabbing and slashing at all, in any capacity? NOT!
 

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Because cars are not specifically designed to kill living things. Guns are. Pretty simple really..
Design doesn't matter as much as intent. Asking responsible drivers to sacrifice their responsible ownership and use of vehicles, in the name of public safety, is as idiotic and pointless as attempting to guilt trip responsible gun owners to sacrifice their responsibly owned and used firearms for public safety.
 

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Semantics Jeeves. Anything can be weaponized by someone with bad intentions. In the UK they have literally banned KNIVES. Has it stopped stabbing and slashing at all, in any capacity? NOT!
You missed the point. Cars, knives are tools, same with any blunt object you can imagine. And lots of other pointy things too. And if YOU USE them as such you are charged as such.

But guns are only weapons. They serve no other function but to kill. Thats it. And to kill easily, from a distance, and in many cases to kill multiple times quickly.

BTW, as a rule, carrying a sword, which is also designed to be a weapon, except under certain ceremonies, is generally prohibited.

Basically the only way to use a gun properly, is to either train to, or actually kill something. Thats it. And that is the distinction.
 

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Design doesn't matter as much as intent. Asking responsible drivers to sacrifice their responsible ownership and use of vehicles, in the name of public safety, is as idiotic and pointless as attempting to guilt trip responsible gun owners to sacrifice their responsibly owned and used firearms for public safety.
See above, your argument is wrong, logically. And btw we demand driver testing, a trial period to get to levels of licensing, it can be revoked for simple misuse, taken away for age, mental and physical acuity. We demand insurance for misuse, police regularly monitor usage, including random stops, and we have a enough traffic laws in place, to curtail lots of problems.

Design does matter. As someone who knows hunters they will be the first to say that if you need more than two shots you shouldn't be out there. Are you that bad a shot you need a semi auto to compensate for your shitty assed aim?
 
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I would say limit the clips to one. register every clip before it goes out of the store. discharged casings should also be reported. harsher punishments on gunowners who's guns resulted to death. even harsher punishments on someone with illegally acquired guns and life imprisonment as minimum if it results to death. If we can't impliment harsh punishments for these actions...nothing will be fixed.
I think limiting clip size to 5 for a bolt action and only allow 2 barrel shot guns is an easy solution.
 
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Design doesn't matter as much as intent. Asking responsible drivers to sacrifice their responsible ownership and use of vehicles, in the name of public safety, is as idiotic and pointless as attempting to guilt trip responsible gun owners to sacrifice their responsibly owned and used firearms for public safety.
Just to add intent can be mitigated by restricting semi auto. You can't prevent someone from doing this, but you can prevent and lessen the damage they can do.
 
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You missed the point. Cars, knives are tools, same with any blunt object you can imagine. And lots of other pointy things too. And if YOU USE them as such you are charged as such.

But guns are only weapons. They serve no other function but to kill. Thats it. And to kill easily, from a distance, and in many cases to kill multiple times quickly.

BTW, as a rule, carrying a sword, which is also designed to be a weapon, except under certain ceremonies, is generally prohibited.

Basically the only way to use a gun properly, is to either train to, or actually kill something. Thats it. And that is the distinction.
The only purpose for narcotics is for people to "feel good" in the moment and/or forget about problems. Yet, Liberals have been moving towards decriminalization and "harm reduction" with programs like safe injection sites or needle exchange and have no problem passing the buck to the taxpayers.

Yet, when it comes to firearms, the only solution they can come up with, is to ban and "buy back" firearms from responsible licensed owners. They're more than happy to waste a billion or more tax dollars on such a pointless endeavour. Yet whenever I or others have suggested using that money instead for safety measures like subsidizing safe storage or building shooting ranges or training and instruction, the same pro-safe injection site, planned parenthood Liberals suddenly tighten their purse strings.
 

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You missed the point. Cars, knives are tools, same with any blunt object you can imagine. And lots of other pointy things too. And if YOU USE them as such you are charged as such.

But guns are only weapons. They serve no other function but to kill. Thats it. And to kill easily, from a distance, and in many cases to kill multiple times quickly.

BTW, as a rule, carrying a sword, which is also designed to be a weapon, except under certain ceremonies, is generally prohibited.

Basically the only way to use a gun properly, is to either train to, or actually kill something. Thats it. And that is the distinction.
Intent is key....
 
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I think limiting clip size to 5 for a bolt action and only allow 2 barrel shot guns is an easy solution.
but that would still kill people... you're just limiting it to 2 or 5....i'm n ot saying i disagree...but it don't need to be limited to shotgun. IMO AR buyers vetting should be scrutinized further. they are not really made for hunting. and limit their clip to 1.
 
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