As Conservative MP Jivani heads to Washington

K Douglas

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We need to fucking break the impasse. Jivani cannot bind us but at least he can leverage his good relationship with Vance. Liberals are just against it because their guy couldn't broker a deal.
 

richaceg

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If he's making a trip there that Canada could benefit what's the problem? If he's going there on his own and at his own expense, would it still be a problem?
 

squeezer

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The mascara-wearing Couch Fucker spewing nonsense

7:14 to for Mascara boy's nonsense


full clip of the couch humper

 
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Butler1000

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His trip was so successful Trump wants to close the new bridge.
 
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dirkd101

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Jivani's trip has exposed the liberals for having done nothing to get a deal done with the US, while Mexico is moving ahead in the process, without Canadian participation. I see here that the TDS is fully charged, with CBC, CTV, Global news/politics rhetoric, with supporting comments from left leaning zealots. Calling Trump and Republicans nazis fits in well at cocktail parties and will win you many new woke friends, but the reality is we need the US for trade, they don't need us.

Canada also never signed the agreement that many other countries have, with regards to critical minerals, while the UK (WEF puppet prime minister Heir Starmer) signed an MOU in this area. While Carney went to China and got a deal with China. The whole canola oil deal was decent, but bringing in Chinese made and fully subsidized EVs will kill Canadian auto industry. I guess that's why Canada never signed the critical mineral deal with the US, because his Brookfield/Clarios battery making plants in China. That and the $250 million loan that China gave Brookfield (or subsidiaries of). One might say that Carney wants CUSMA to fail, at the hands of Trump, so that he can blame Trump over its demise, while Carney looks to deal with China more. This would be a liberal failure, not anything you can blame Trump on. When push comes to shove, Trump is going to do what's best for the US. Has Carney done that for Canada? Or is he too busy with the WEF's new world order? You can't serve two masters and Carney, is not serving Canada, he is a WEF servant.

The real litmus test about leaders is thus, replace Carney with a PC leader, in this case Poilievre and let's say that Pierre is Brookfields guy in the PMO. Would you give him a pass on the conflicts of interest happening? Would you support the draconian bills and pieces that have been thrown into legislation that are clearly overreach? Would you support the billions of dollars that Canada has sent to the stupidest things, in third world countries, while Canada and Canadians suffer? Would the mainstream media give Pierre a pass, like they have Carney and the libs? I'm certain with the way you react to everything non liberal, woke or left, you would be having a conniption calling for Pierre's head.

Good for Jivani for using his connection and it's also telling to hear that Carney has done nothing.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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Jivani's trip has exposed the liberals for having done nothing to get a deal done with the US,
Jivani is going to accomplish jack squat by going to Washington. Grandstanding isn’t diplomacy.
......Has Carney done that for Canada?
Yes. He has set plans in motion to diversify Canada’s trade relationships.
Putting nearly all our economic leverage into the US was a monumentally dumb idea, and recent events made that painfully obvious.
Diversification is precisely why Carney was elected.
I'm certain with the way you react to everything non liberal, woke or left, you would be having a conniption calling for Pierre's head.
People tend to have a visceral reaction to Nazi politics.
Pierre, meanwhile, is little more than a glorified sloganeer.
....it's also telling to hear that Carney has done nothing.
You just finished listing what Carney has done, then immediately contradicted yourself by claiming he’s done nothing.
And no, we can neither make deals with Nazis, nor trust the United States ever again.
You are not grounded in reality if you think relations between the 2 nations will return to normal after Trump.
 
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dirkd101

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@Shaquille Oatmeal I expected nothing less from you. Your consumption of mainstream media here in Canada has rotted the left's brains.

No contradictions, just facts, Carney has done nothing. His mandate, as the liberals created the trump monster, was to get a deal with Trump, removing the tariffs. He even stated that this would be accomplished last summer. He scores a ZERO on this.

Diversifying our relationship away from our closest neighbour and the world's biggest economy? What major deals has he scored for Canada and if you think that's a smart move, getting away from dealing with the US, then where do you go to make up for this? Canada's top ten companies don't even equal what the US's top company (Walmart) make combined. Why Brookfield is listed is beyond me, as Carney HQ'ed them out of New York and they don't and haven't paid Canadian taxes. But whatever, right? let's diversify...

Your response to nazism is laughable, as the real nazis are in power and their overreaching legislation will be the end of what Canada was. The fact that the left says nothing about this, and it's ignored on MM, is not going to augur well. Wiping away rights and freedoms that this country was founded on, is the road to communism. Once again, you don't address the litmus test, because your answers would take Carney off of his pedestal. When Canadians are arrested for hurty feeling, over some social media post, like they have in the UK and other forms of government overreach affect you as well. You'll be okay with this. Or how about a government minister and a company that the government chooses, breaks the law and gov't ethics, but is exempt, under the clause slipped into the budget, after it was tabled? You're good with that?

I never said relations wouldn't return, but Trump aside, if the President is a Republican again, things may not return to where you think. Damaging relationships, for a new world order, don't go unnoticed. Not even by democrats.

Once again, our leaders cannot serve two masters. Carney serves the WEF, and not Canada, as evidenced by his every move. But you watch more CBC, power and politics and everything will be just fine...
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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Your consumption of mainstream media here in Canada has rotted the left's brains.
MSM at least attempts journalism.
Twitter and Truth Social are rage bait farms for right wing grievance and disinformation.
No contradictions, just facts, Carney has done nothing.
You have pointed out that Carney has diversified trade. That is not nothing.
His mandate, as the liberals created the trump monster, was to get a deal with Trump, removing the tariffs. He even stated that this would be accomplished last summer. He scores a ZERO on this.
His mandate was to deal with Trump tariffs.
He dealt with that by diversifying trade, because that is the long term solution.
Diversifying our relationship away from our closest neighbour and the world's biggest economy?
Yes. The world's biggest economy that is holding Canada to ransom.
What major deals has he scored for Canada
China, UAE, South Africa, Internal liberalization, Alberta Pipeline, Deals with EU for military procurements to name a few.
....then where do you go to make up for this?
China, India, Europe, South America, Africa.
The world is a bigger place than the US.
Your response to nazism is laughable, as the real nazis are in power and their overreaching legislation will be the end of what Canada was.
No, the Trump administration is fascist.
This is not rhetorical framing.
MAGA meets the textbook definition of fascism: cult of the leader, attacks on the press, politicized law enforcement, and rejection of electoral legitimacy.
Wiping away rights and freedoms that this country was founded on, is the road to communism.
No rights or freedoms have been wiped away in Canada.
When Canadians are arrested for hurty feeling, over some social media post...
No one in Canada is being arrested for “hurting feelings.”
Once again, our leaders cannot serve two masters. Carney serves the WEF, and not Canada, as evidenced by his every move. But you watch more CBC, power and politics and everything will be just fine...
So your complaint is that he is a “globalist.”
Globalization and migration are constants of human history.
They always have been, and they always will be.
Canada does not exist in a vacuum, no matter how much some people wish it did.
 
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dirkd101

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@Shaquille Oatmeal, I noticed that you never addressed this part of the post. The rest of your answers are nothing more than the canned variety, right out of the left/woke playbook.

"The real litmus test about leaders is thus, replace Carney with a PC leader, in this case Poilievre and let's say that Pierre is Brookfields guy in the PMO. Would you give him a pass on the conflicts of interest happening? Would you support the draconian bills and pieces that have been thrown into legislation that are clearly overreach? Would you support the billions of dollars that Canada has sent to the stupidest things, in third world countries, while Canada and Canadians suffer? Would the mainstream media give Pierre a pass, like they have Carney and the libs? I'm certain with the way you react to everything non liberal, woke or left, you would be having a conniption calling for Pierre's head."

MM in Canada does nothing but support the liberals. They are supposed to hold a government accountable, not carry their water. So anything you consume from them is nothing more than propaganda or, "newspeak. "

Same woke rhetoric about fascism/nazis, linking anyone who is conservative with being "far" right and therefore a fascist/nazi. The Conservatives are not fascist or nazis. The liberals are trying to enact laws that are fascist in nature. Overreach by government, when laws already exist on the books. If you have a Global view, you would know that these same types of laws have been passed in the UK and "hurty" feelings arrests have been made. Two tier justice systems. The call for digital IDs (Carney was there when this was rolled out by heir Starmer) WEF, globalist policies. The one bill, C9, that lawyer and Conservative MP Dr. Leslyn Lewis, as well as other lawyers and law professors, have spoke out about. Again, MM has let this drop.

Your playbook is worn and the catchy phrases meant to shut down debate are tiresome. It's funny, when faced with an abstract thought, like the above one, how you avoid answering. You and @Frankfooter, et al, don't answer anything that requires thought, but rather you spew the party line. When confronted with an uncomfortable question, avoid, use left/woke paybook and call Conservatives nazis/fascist. It's a simple question, one that everyone should be doing and one that I tell my kids to do. If you're leader/party, don't pass this test, then are they really doing anything good for Canada?

While we live here on earth, that doesn't mean we need to open our borders to unfettered immigration. We need a controlled immigration policy, ending the TFW and student visas handed out. Globalism and globalization are two different terms, whereas globalism is an ideology, supported by the WEF, while globalization is to increase trade.

Can your leader serve two masters? One, an unelected body of globalists, who have no stake in Canada or its people, but rather what they can take from it. The other, your country. Where having borders isn't a bad thing, bringing in the right people to help grow this country, its economy. People that want a first world experience and want to be a Canadian. And, seeing where Canada fits into Globalization, not globalism.

All the "deals" that you say that Carney got, are nothing more than Brookfield deals. The huge conflict of interest that our MM refuses to address and is why the exemption was slipped into the budget (after its release to all parties, but found by Conservatives in committee) to ministers and companies that get contracts, that they won't have to fear legal issues (except CC), or conflict of interest, with relation to government contracts.
 
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