Canadians will not buy only EV's in the future. Are our governments watching?

CLOUD 500

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Since I got an EV, my fuelling costs are down around 80% and I never have to stop at a gas station. My range is around 500 km in the summer and around 375 km in the winter. Why on earth why I go back to an ICE?
I take it you own a house? But for many of us renters, owning a EV is not an option because we cannot just install the charger at an apartment or just plug it in. Apartment building owners will need to spend a lot of money to install the network to charge EVs.
 

Barney Rubble

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I take it you own a house? But for many of us renters, owning a EV is not an option because we cannot just install the charger at an apartment or just plug it in. Apartment building owners will need to spend a lot of money to install the network to charge EVs.
I do own a home. And you're right. I wouldn't have the same option if I was in a different living situation. I don't judge anyone's choices (or lack of choice).

However, I do find it weird that some people who drive traditional vehicles are so hostile and judgemental to people that own EVs.
 

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Update about EV car for 2026.

If Ford gets into a partnership with Chinese companies, the EV industry will take off.

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CLOUD 500

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I do own a home. And you're right. I wouldn't have the same option if I was in a different living situation. I don't judge anyone's choices (or lack of choice).

However, I do find it weird that some people who drive traditional vehicles are so hostile and judgemental to people that own EVs.
Maybe they are hostile because the government is forcing it. I believe the free market is best to offer a better product. When the world transitioned from the horse drawn carriage to the internal combustion engine is because it was a better product not because the government forced it. Believe it or not EVs are ancient technology it was there in the 19th century. Then compared to the ICE car, the EV was a much better product. ICE cars back then were crude, had poor fuel quality, had many moving parts that the driver had to control, spark plugs susceptible to fouling, and hand cranking the engine. What changed it? The starter motor. That put an end to EVs. EVs back then suffer from the same problems that they suffer today, big heavy batteries, low capacity which meant limited range, low charging power and limited to urban areas. In rural areas it did not work at all. Well, the same problems still exist for EVs. Technology has advanced a lot, but charging stations are still a big issue. There has to be as much of them as there are gas stations. Even a level 3 charger will take one hour till full capacity and it is about 480v DC, imagine running a million cars on that much power. One can refuel to full tank within minutes. Rural areas would make it very challenging as Canada has vast areas and sparse population. My point is the government forcing it is not the right way, they should not be limiting choice. It affects the less wealthy the most. The free market will find a better product, I still think EVs are over a decade away from the right technology before they can replace ICE, till then you cannot blame some people from being hostile.
 

Barney Rubble

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Maybe they are hostile because the government is forcing... EVs are over a decade away from the right technology before they can replace ICE, till then you cannot blame some people from being hostile.
Agree to disagree on the timeline, but I definitely can blame people for being hostile about the vehicles and those who buy them. They're a great product that serve their purpose well. Are they for everyone right now? Of course not. But for me, it's ideal.
 

DesRicardo

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This Liberal government is just shoving this EV crap down our throats.

If the market can't sustain itself, then that should be a clue. Can't they get rich off another scheme? Hell they already are rich.
 

Barney Rubble

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This Liberal government is just shoving this EV crap down our throats.

If the market can't sustain itself, then that should be a clue. Can't they get rich off another scheme? Hell they already are rich.
They just scrapped the EV mandate so you can relax.

 

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They just scrapped the EV mandate so you can relax.

I wouldn't go so far as to say they scrapped it, but rather rejigged it. There are still going to be taxpayer funded rebates fort EVs (because they aren't selling) and tougher emission standards for combustion engines. Carney is still pushing UN Agenda 2030, but he's moving the goal posts so that he doesn't lose any upcoming elections. Nothing more than smoke and mirrors.
 

Barney Rubble

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There are tons of rebates for energy efficient stuff. Furnaces, insulation, windows... And EV cars ARE selling. They're more than 20% of all sales now. Pick-up truck sales are around 20% too.

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DesRicardo

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There are tons of rebates for energy efficient stuff. Furnaces, insulation, windows... And EV cars ARE selling. They're more than 20% of all sales now. Pick-up truck sales are around 20% too.

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EVs only sold because of the rebate. They are bringing it back because 2025 was a declining year in sales.

No need to maintain another corporate welfare program that only fattens the pockets of the bankers.
 
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Barney Rubble

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EVs only sold because of the rebate.
Absolutely not true. For commuters they are a much better choice and it's not even close. I bought mine with no rebate and I save over $250 per month in fuel. It's also better performing compared to my last cadillac, which was great, but doesn't hold a candle to the EV.
 

DesRicardo

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Absolutely not true.
You want to try that again?


The EV market doesn't survive without corporate welfare.

You get up to $1,800/year on food, but $5,000 on an EV purchase. Make it make sense.
 

Barney Rubble

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You want to try that again?


The EV market doesn't survive without corporate welfare.

You get up to $1,800/year on food, but $5,000 on an EV purchase. Make it make sense.
Right, so basically it's saying EV growth remains robust globally and Canada is an outlier, probably owing to concerns about tariffs and people likely holding off on their purchases waiting for the rebate to be re-instated. Just like you might wait for a boxing day sale to buy a new TV.

Anyway, think what you want. I'll never understand the haters. Don't want an EV? Don't buy one.
 

DesRicardo

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Right, so basically it's saying EV growth remains robust globally and Canada is an outlier, probably owing to concerns about tariffs and people likely holding off on their purchases waiting for the rebate to be re-instated. Just like you might wait for a boxing day sale to buy a new TV.

Anyway, think what you want. I'll never understand the haters. Don't want an EV? Don't buy one.
Yeah, Corporate welfare. The boxing day sale TV isn't subsidized by the government. That's the difference.

I have nothing against EVs. You want one? Go on ahead, but our Government shouldn't be subsidizing Luxury items. That's all.
 

Barney Rubble

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Yeah, Corporate welfare. The boxing day sale TV isn't subsidized by the government. That's the difference.

I have nothing against EVs. You want one? Go on ahead, but our Government shouldn't be subsidizing Luxury items. That's all.
I don't have a problem with that. I got mine without a subsidy and I'm very happy with the purchase. The subsidy is not as important as it once was, as the EV prices are no longer substantially higher than ICE models. I'd rather have it limited to vehicles that are substantially built in Canada, at least on a temporary basis to encourage domestic production.
 

DesRicardo

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I don't have a problem with that. I got mine without a subsidy and I'm very happy with the purchase. The subsidy is not as important as it once was, as the EV prices are no longer substantially higher than ICE models. I'd rather have it limited to vehicles that are substantially built in Canada, at least on a temporary basis to encourage domestic production.
Corporate welfare.
 
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