SP's and Gents I need some help with GFE and PSE categories please

Endurance2024

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Back in my day porn video's showed male actors getting their rocks off and releasing their load anywhere on her face, ass boobs or anywhere else on her. DT and anal was a rarity. Never any kissing at all. In fact seeing an SP back in those days kissing was a no no same as FS without a cover is today. Considered to intimate I believe. Not much porn showing DATY, DATO Rimming or any type of cream pie accept for oral but that wasn't called a cream pie. I invite some of you old farts to correct me on any of this.

I visited a brothel down in Mexico the early 80s my first and only time as a young lad up until a couple of years ago. In that experience no kissing but unprotected FS was standard. Not sure if that was just Mexico at the time as I had no other reference to compare the experience with back home up until now.

Roll forward to today. Porn videos have changed to include virtually everything including intimacy and not in just male or even female POV. Items that were extreme back then are standard today in porn videos including DT, Anal, Cream pies every hole, Rimming and or DATO. Again old farts weigh in.

I'm inviting everyone for their opinion and view in there understanding of this.

Having started this hobby a couple years ago my issue is the categories used and the acronyms assigned to each is not clear to me. Below is my acronyms slotted based on old style porn and normal relationships.

GFE - LFK, DFK, BBBJ/CBJ, DATY, 69, CFS some positions, HJ, COB, Ci-rubber Hugging and Cuddling (intimacy) GF Orgasm - (In todays environment - DATO, RIMMING)

PSE - BBBJ, PS, CFS Any Position, DATO, RIMMING, ANAL, COF, CIM, HJ and CREAMPIES and DUOs and Dirty Talk - (In todays environment - FF, DT, Drool or Spit on genitals, Roll Playing)

And lets have fun with this WE category Wife Experience: Deos sex change over time and whats different?

WE - Honeymoon Faze - (LFK, DFK, BBBJ, DATY, 69, CFS/FS many positions, HJ, COB, Ci-rubber, CIP, Hugging and Cuddling (intimacy) Mutual Orgasm
WE - up to 15 years of marriage - (LFK, BBBJ, DATY, CFS/FS go to positions, HJ, COB, Ci-rubber, CIP, Hugging and Cuddling (intimacy) Mutual Orgasm
WE - beyond 15 years (LK, CFS/FS 1 or 2 postions, HJ, Ci-rubber, CIP, Hugging and Cuddling (intimacy) Mutual Orgasm
 
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GFE - LFK, DFK, BBBJ/CBJ, DATY, 69, CFS some positions, HJ, COB, Ci-rubber Hugging and Cuddling (intimacy) GF Orgasm

PSE - BBBJ, PS, CFS Any Position, DATO, RIMMING, ANAL, COF, CIM, HJ and CREAMPIES and DUOs and Dirty Talk
I think much of this is properly classified. I think FF/DT is my border of when bbbj/cbj becomes PSE. I funnily find 69 more PSE than GFE even though I’ve made than normal in all my relationships.
not quite an old fart but I also think DATO/rimming can be GFE but provider specific based on hygiene (to your point I find the younger they are the more it’s normalized)
 

Endurance2024

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I think much of this is properly classified. I think FF/DT is my border of when bbbj/cbj becomes PSE. I funnily find 69 more PSE than GFE even though I’ve made than normal in all my relationships.
not quite an old fart but I also think DATO/rimming can be GFE but provider specific based on hygiene (to your point I find the younger they are the more it’s normalized)
Thanks for your perspective pqsquared, I've added your details to a sidelist in each category.
 

Endurance2024

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I would say pretty accurate classification there. Almost fainted with "... unprotected FS was standard ..." :eek:
Yeah it was just the one experience and condoms was never seen or offered in the establishment and me young a foolish and sexually inexperienced didn't carry any. AIDS/HIV was not know much at that time. Just wondering if that was the norm or just down in Mexico
 
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My own preferences tend to range from friendly fuck buddy to GFE, though a little bit of spice is nice from time to time. The big problem with really firm categories is that a lot of what separates GFE from PSE comes down to how a situation feels. I've had plenty of face sitting in otherwise very GFE sessions. Ditto for spitting on my cock.

So my advice is to not get too hung up on big umbrella terms, even if if things happen to fall more, or less, into one column or another.
 

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PSE - BBBJ, PS, CFS Any Position, DATO, RIMMING, ANAL, COF, CIM, HJ and CREAMPIES and DUOs and Dirty Talk - (In todays environment - FF, DT, Drool or Spit on genitals, Roll Playing)
-I think there’s quite a few gfe providers that also do duos

-not uncommon for some pse definitions to exclude CoF 😒
 
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