As I said, I agree with that! And nowhere did I state only offering full service was a suggestion or anything close to what I offer or expect most SPs to offer. Just questioning the concept behind the bng pricing, if you may wish to interpret it that way
I think your misunderstanding comes from the fact that you are offering a buffet and clients ask for "à la carte". Like if you go to a buffet, but will eat no meat, they will not reduce the price, but in a regular restaurant, the price is different for every dish. The question "should clients pay less for BJ only without FS" is similar to "should clients pay more for BBJ than for CBJ, or should they pay more for DFK, etc". Some providers offer only all-inclusive menus (where "all" differs across providers) while others give a lower basic price and upcharge for "extra" services. BTW, if you think that BJ is harder to provide than FS, should the clients who want only FS without BJ pay less?I want everyone’s opinions on this. Clients and SPs weigh in for me
Now, I’m not dense I do understand the general concept behind “less being provided” should equal less paid. However, I don’t agree that only a bj is actually less provided. Allow me to explain. And I also want to preface this by stating this isn’t about the people asking for bj only because they know they’ll likely be in and out in 5min or less. This is specifically about the gentleman who request a lengthy 20-30min session of it.
Anyone who has given head to either man or woman can agree that it does take a certain amount of jaw power and can get tiring and somewhat painful after a bit, right? So there’s that.
Also, I don’t know many real people who genuinely orgasm from giving oral. It can be a turn on and pleasurable in its own way to be pleasing who you’re with. But in a general sense it doesn’t feel as good to give head as it does to be having sex. I think that’s something else we can all agree on.
So my thought on it is, if someone is putting in more effort with a targeted area of their body, and not receiving the enjoyment they would with the full service, why expect them to charge less? Is there an assumption that SPs don’t want to do full service and would rather discount a bj only session to avoid it? If so, where did that start?
I would rather be enjoying myself and potentially getting to orgasm with full service so the concept of spending the same amount of time putting in more effort for less enjoyment and a lower payment rate just doesn’t make sense to me at all.
Do any other SPs feel similarly? Am I just cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs? Let’s discuss
Hmm great points! I don’t particularly have an issue with bj as a service or with providing it. It’s just when it’s expected to last 20-30min (because yes, some men will last that long) and somehow be a lesser price than what one would charge for a typical 20-30min session with all included. As you said, choosing to forego other services should not just make the general rate cheaper (when using the buffet analogy). But if I as a buffet owner find that cooking a certain dish gives more wear and tear on my pots and pans than others, I wouldn’t charge less for it. Even if the…chunks of meat are smaller? Lol might’ve tried to take that too far
So it’s not like I have a general dislike of giving a bj in general or in my appointments, but if it’s what you want me to do the entire time when it is more effort and less enjoyment, my brain just doesn’t understand charging less for it and still being happy about booking that appointment and happy about them even being there.
Quite simple. If a client makes a hh appointment and only tells you when he arrives that he wants a 30 min BJ, then you simply say I can give you a BJ but I can't (OR, there's no way) I can do a BJ for 30minutes. Simple and problem solved. I've known SPs who have said that to new clients when asked for a 30min BJ. Then, if the client is understanding, I'd say most are, then you may have a new client.
I am wondering how the stated size of TERB members would decrease if the charge were per centimeter? Hell, I would be able to hobby twice as much!
To address your initial question BNG I've only started this hobby a couple of years ago and seeing adds for BNG 15/20min I envisioned if the SP could get clients to pop in 10 minutes or less and she had a steady stream of clients then it sound quite lucrative but as you mentioned probably not sustainable with jaw over use. My younger self probably would have popped around 10min especially if it was enthusiastically delivered.
That’s exactly what I do. I’m not asking for advice for my particular business. Just a general opinion and analysis
That’s so true we do totally have the right to price and stop and choose. However it’s so tricky because this business is also very heavily word of mouth and review based. There’s an incalculable amount of difference between having reviews and when I didn’t. And all it take is 1 review saying “they refused to make me cum and demanded more”. Then it becomes a he said/ she said. While I understand what you are saying and I do agree - this business strictly isn’t as black and white as you’re making it seem to be. It is sooo very nuanced. That’s not a complaint just a statement.
Not necessarily, because with a healthy balance you can have that mindset. As I stated earlier, I don’t expect my client to come in and be only focused on me and my pleasure because that is a niche thing. Or even focus on it at all. But, if I’m riding or backing it up, I can focus on..both of our pleasures. If that makes sense
Yea that’s so fair! I guess I don’t have an accurate view of what mostSPs actually do. Only what clients tell me they do. Which can be a big difference for those wanting to take advantage of nativity!
You’re so sweet! I try to be as genuine as possible while protecting my privacy. I don’t see this business as strictly sex, for me and most of my clients it’s about intimacy as well. So maybe that’s why I have a harder time conceptualizing certain business models.
Yeah I don't usually repeat with those PS's that focus soley on me. I find most of the time its fake moans and such a turn off.
She’s still working in that time frame. It’s up to you in that time frame to take advantage of included services.
What she is saying is that tire kickers ask if the 30 min rate can be lowered if they only want a bj. It’s a lowballer way of trying to be slick in my opinion.
I think it helps having a high drive, yes. For the most part I’ve realized a lot of men do prefer and notice when the enjoyment is genuine. That why I do certain things to help us both get off and also make the time last the time.
Not in a general sense, but it would be hard to be with the ratio. There’s a higher volume of professional encounters than personal encounters. And most personal encounters would likely be with someone I’ve already been with and know I enjoy being with.
