Jon is not AI. your previous post is.
Jon is not AI. your previous post is.
Man, do like the briefest google.Was he legally allowed to carry?
No, it is illegal to carry a weapon without your permit and your ID on you.
Was he breaking any laws by carrying?
Yes, it is illegal to carry a weapon without your permit and your ID on you.
These are both straw man arguments. You said "he did everything right", if you take a loaded weapon to a peaceful protest you are NOT doing everything right. This is pretty cut and dry. It's absurd to suggest otherwise.
"And let's be real. Not carrying your permit is a $25 fine"
So he did not do "everything right", glad we cleared that up.
Did the ICE officers ask to see hisSubd. 1b.Display of permit; penalty.
(a) The holder of a permit to carry must have the permit card and a driver's license, state identification card, or other government-issued photo identification in immediate possession at all times when carrying a pistol and must display the permit card and identification document upon lawful demand by a peace officer, as defined in section 626.84, subdivision 1. A violation of this paragraph is a petty misdemeanor. The fine for a first offense must not exceed $25. Notwithstanding section 609.531, a firearm carried in violation of this paragraph is not subject to forfeiture.
(b) A citation issued for violating paragraph (a) must be dismissed if the person demonstrates, in court or in the office of the arresting officer, that the person was authorized to carry the pistol at the time of the alleged violation.
(c) Upon the request of a peace officer, a permit holder must write a sample signature in the officer's presence to aid in verifying the person's identity.
(d) Upon the request of a peace officer, a permit holder shall disclose to the officer whether or not the permit holder is currently carrying a firearm.
No, I am referring to the many protests to which they dress in camo, put on their ammo pouch vest, and sling their semi-auto rifles on. I don't think they walk around in everyday life in this manner. Or if they do, they need some help.You mean all those folks who carry their guns every day of their entire lives? How many of those folks were showing up to protests against law enforcement?
Meanwhile Alex, whose family says he never carried, suddenly decided to take his gun with him to protest federal LOEs.
Yeah, totally the same thing.
You can see ICE push the woman over and Pretti coming to protect her before ICE kills him.Jon is not AI. your previous post is.
Are you talking about ICE?No, I am referring to the many protests to which they dress in camo, put on their ammo pouch vest, and sling their semi-auto rifles on. I don't think they walk around in everyday life in this manner. Or if they do, they need some help.
Still, unless he pointed it at someone, he isn't an active threat.
Have you seen the videos of the people that get stopped for a traffic stop, roll down their window a crack, and claim to not be subject to police rule. And I have seem them say they have a gun in the car. They didn't get shot.Bringing guns sure covers 2nd ammendment...what it doesn't cover is confronting Law Enforcement. Have you tried confronting any law enforcement doing their job? you should try it on one traffic stop and report back how it went.
You seem to forget the democrats created this high tension atmosphere in Minnesota...also didn't help that these protesters are following ICE...why do they need to do that? these are deputized federal agents. you also forget that violence can occur at any moment...tell that to the National Guards who were shot a few months back. It's quite comforting to be sitting here in Canada trying to micro analyze what's going on in Minnesota. these "peaceful protesters" vandalize hotels...for what? housing ICE? why target hotels who employs residents.No, I am referring to the many protests to which they dress in camo, put on their ammo pouch vest, and sling their semi-auto rifles on. I don't think they walk around in everyday life in this manner. Or if they do, they need some help.
Still, unless he pointed it at someone, he isn't an active threat.
No, I'm not talking about ICE. Although, I think some of these guys that show up at peaceful protests armed to the teeth are probably serving in the ranks of ICE.Are you talking about ICE?
Why should anyone obey someone who claims to be immigration when they won't show ID to prove it?
That didn't happen.Have you seen the videos of the people that get stopped for a traffic stop, roll down their window a crack, and claim to not be subject to police rule. And I have seem them say they have a gun in the car. They didn't get shot.
So for starters, word is he was interfering with ICE officers a few minutes before they pulled up in their SUV, so ICE tried to detain him.Show me the part: Give me a screen shot, give me a link and a timestamp.
He backs away. He hugs a woman. ICE pulls him to the ground. His hands get put behind his back, he gets executed.
Do you hear the words "you are under arrest"
You can't resist something you're not under.
total bullshit.You seem to forget the democrats created this high tension atmosphere in Minnesota...
Yes, it's a powder keg type of situation, no doubt about that. And you are right that everyone plays a part in creating the heightened atmosphere. Everyone, from both sides of the spectrum have been cranking up this atmosphere. However, those with the guns should be trained well enough to know when it is appropriate to use deadly force. I would hope we could agree on that.You seem to forget the democrats created this high tension atmosphere in Minnesota...also didn't help that these protesters are following ICE...why do they need to do that? these are deputized federal agents. you also forget that violence can occur at any moment...tell that to the National Guards who were shot a few months back. It's quite comforting to be sitting here in Canada trying to micro analyze what's going on in Minnesota. these "peaceful protesters" vandalize hotels...for what? housing ICE? why target hotels who employs residents.
They just dont seem to get itBringing guns sure covers 2nd ammendment...what it doesn't cover is confronting Law Enforcement. Have you tried confronting any law enforcement doing their job? you should try it on one traffic stop and report back how it went
They didn't vote for Trump and he won so they had a meltdown....have you seen the streets in Minnesota? who's having a meltdown?total bullshit.
Minnesota didn't vote for trump so he had a meltdown.
They didn't have the meltdown, trump did.They didn't vote for Trump and he won so they had a meltdown....have you seen the streets in Minnesota? who's having a meltdown?
Like I said. There has to be an investigation. on both Good and Pretti shooting. I'm not the one going on here calling it Murder calling ICE Nazi...I also didn't call Good and Pretti domestic terrorists...what I stated was all this could be avoided with less contact with Law Enforcement. There seems to be an expose on some rogue Minnesota leadership ranks that are organizing these mobs following ICE...if Walz is implicated or not is still also being investigated.Yes, it's a powder keg type of situation, no doubt about that. And you are right that everyone plays a part in creating the heightened atmosphere. Everyone, from both sides of the spectrum have been cranking up this atmosphere. However, those with the guns should be trained well enough to know when it is appropriate to use deadly force. I would hope we could agree on that.
Lol...ICE are sent to every state to hunt down illegals...most states are complying...Minnesota isn't - Meltdown.They didn't have the meltdown, trump did.
Why are MAGA all such Karens?
Now anyone in america can LARP as an ICE agent.
Wear a mask, but surplus uniform, no ID needed.
Who's word? Do you have any evidence? Why didn't they arrest him then when he was interfering?So for starters, word is he was interfering with ICE officers a few minutes before they pulled up in their SUV, so ICE tried to detain him.
When LE tells you to comply, you need to put up your hands, or if you're on the ground you need to spread eagle.
If you go to around the 0:16 mark you can see he's on his hands and knees trying to get up.
What he should be doing is lie down spread eagle, and not resist
This is the proper way to do it
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You are telling on yourself here Phil. "Arrest me harder daddy. Are you going to do a cavity search? Who knows what I might be hiding"When LE tells you to comply, you need to put up your hands, or if you're on the ground you need to spread eagle.






