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I think because you will be targeted as a whale.
Yes.

When I used to travel a lot more than I do now, and when they didn’t used to fucking give elite hotel status to everyone who signed up for a credit card, I used to get massive room and suite upgrades.

It was always awkward for the first conversation with the outcall escort to be how free upgrades work for travelers and no, I am not rich. The escorts who toured would usually laugh and say they get upgrades also as a result of travel, which of course came in handy for them.

I tip in rare circumstances, but if they think you are loaded and springing for a $500 room instead of a $200 room paid by your employer, more tips are expected.
 

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Fun to talk about? They do not owe us the conversation. I doubt the fun part extends to the sp perspective. Jesus. Nice attempt at turning it on the sp as ‘judgmental’ ffs
Yep, they do not owe us the conversation, so, they are welcome to stay away from it. It is not polite to shut other people up. And that girl whose income I dared to estimate opened that topic herself when she literally said that she has 8 clients per week, and it is enough for a comfortable life. If it is not a statement of her own earnings as an SP, I do not know what it is. White Knights, please, paint yourself in more cheerful colors and stop being so boring. The way some SPs behave here is like they are not in the business to provide fun, but they are grumpy old men who just want to have it their own way and are always saying "It is not your darn business." I can have an image in my mind of them muttering and swinging the cane
 

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Since most don't wanna disclose their revenue similar to a salary then why keep making a stink about it and whining to know? Now you sound like a beggar. If some ladies wanna disclose their numbers they will and if others are throwing in estimates saying they see x amount of clients then you can guess all you like. Are many ladies in this industry grumpy and have attitude issues? Sure. This isn't anything new. They keep it business. Book a time and day and show up and fuck and leave. Do you go around your neighbourhood asking a bunch of small business owners their numbers then make a stink about how nobody is disclosing things to you.
I consider myself pretty down to earth and have many many happy clients as anyone can search my reviews here.
I am not an inherently grumpy person as I'm being made out to be.

I just think that I should have the right to share the information I choose to about myself without being pushed and expected to delve further into personal territory that I choose not to share.

That's all.
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This topic comes up every 6 months, and I've yet to see an answer!
While i dont know what reasoning was before, in fairness we did way better than expected with the tariffs. Thats because they only impact about 6% of all trade to US. CUSMA is the remaining 94% and that impact will be unavoidable.

So im betting my timeline on CUSMA which should have a decision by June/July.

I agree otherwise, if that stays as is, i still believe economy is messed up BUT impact to this industry may be less felt.
 
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Since most don't wanna disclose their revenue similar to a salary then why keep making a stink about it and whining to know? Now you sound like a beggar. If some ladies wanna disclose their numbers they will and if others are throwing in estimates saying they see x amount of clients then you can guess all you like. Are many ladies in this industry grumpy and have attitude issues? Sure. This isn't anything new. They keep it business. Book a time and day and show up and fuck and leave. Do you go around your neighbourhood asking a bunch of small business owners their numbers then make a stink about how nobody is disclosing things to you.
Totally agree, and this is exactly what I did (guessed all I like :))
 

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I consider myself pretty down to earth and have many many happy clients as anyone can search my reviews here.
I am not an inherently grumpy person as I'm being made out to be.

I just think that I should have the right to share the information I choose to about myself without being pushed and expected to delve further into personal territory that I choose not to share.

That's all.
XO
Completely agree. Noone should push anyone to disclose any information, and anyone has the right to guess anything about anyone else. I, for one, would never disclose my income or occupation and will simply ignore any inquiries.
 

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I think most of us pay tax on all our earnings. At least the ones I call my friends do.
Never have understood that comment that appears routinely by Johns, almost never by escorts, who talk to professionals or other ladies who get professional advice, or simply think things through.

Now I am sure most escorts shave some off the top, especially tips and upsells and extensions, with that cash being spent instead of deposited.

But there is an electronic calendar, emails, and most importantly bank deposits. For the unwise escort who has a cash hoard hidden in her closet, there is so much paperwork that has to be filed that most sellers will run the other direction if someone wants to spend cash. If the cash is accepted and reported, the government wonders where the cash came from if little or no income has been reported on tax returns. Any basic tax auditor can discover this type of unreported income quite easily. Why would a lady run ads and have a nice apartment (maybe two apartments) and drive a nice car if she has no income? Why so much credit card spending on Uber?

Another common misconception is that illegal income can’t be reported on an income tax return without risk of prosecution for the underlying crime. The opposite is true. Illegal income must be reported on an income tax return, and if properly reported, it cannot be used as evidence of other crimes in the tax systems of most Western countries.

Even in the U.S., which is the subject of so much mis-information, most escorts who have done time (other than street hookers) did so for financial crimes. The Maine Zumba instructor did welfare and tax fraud by not reporting income, and tax fraud was the charge against the famous Stanford lawyer sex worker who hid cash in her hollowed out law textbooks and personal law library. Not sure what Canada’s search and seizure rules are (I know they are not as bad as the U.S.) but touring ladies in the U.S. always complained about the risk of the police in the town they toured investigating them at the end of the tour, taking the cash they found, and of course never charging them. They would have to sue to get the cash back, which wasn’t realistic. So they deposited the cash regularly, and those deposits need to be reported on a tax return. I suspect Canada has an asset forfeiture system as well, although I doubt if it as mis-used as the one in the U.S.
 

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I have a feeling that the disparity would be too huge to have any kind of average.

I remember years ago watching a movie about the movie industry and actors. One line stands out:

"We all see the Brad Pitts and Sigourney Weavers making big bucks, but the average actor in Hollywood probably served you dinner last night"

I'd imagine a similar thing is true here. But I also agree, it's none of our business. Comparison is the thief of joy, or so they say

I'll just be happy with what I got.
Totally off topic, but many years ago my brother went to San Francisco for work and had dinner at a nice restaurant, and his waiter was The Shermanator from American Pie.

Every guy that opines on this topic always comes across as bitter and jealous, even though they always pretend to claim it's just curiosity or whatever. The giveaway is when they say it's all tax free.

Whenever I've visited providers at their home or got to know a bit about their lives, they all live very modestly. They have the same concerns about rent/housing, car issues, vet bills, grocery prices, and all the other stuff that regular people deal with.
 

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I tip in rare circumstances, but if they think you are loaded and springing for a $500 room instead of a $200 room paid by your employer, more tips are expected.
I tip when I'm under the effect of alcohol, but I've never seen sp being sober.
 
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For those wondering i dont think prices will come down to 120 hh lol... but you will see it normalize around the 160hh - 220hh on average.
Haha good luck waiting for that drop. Prices will go up for girls who are getting booked. Those who are not, do you really want to see them? there is a reason why they are not booked and dropping prices. I don't see any hot indies now charging less than 400-500 per h and they will not hassle for hh dates for sure. If they are worth it and getting booked, there is no reason for them to work for agency and make this numerous hh appointments.
 

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Like anything, the best ones are still hard to book at high prices. Gucci is still Gucci.

The people that have a $300-500K household income may still buy the $3000-5000 Gucci bag. The $120-150K household may hold off for better times, they may go for the under $1000 bag for now.
The market for SP crotch gucci is suffering the same economic realities as the high income households.
 
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The people that have a $300-500K household income may still buy the $3000-5000 Gucci bag. The $120-150K household may hold off for better times, they may go for the under $1000 bag for now.
The market for SP crotch gucci is suffering the same economic realities as the high income households.
I think higher-income folks tend to think of their favorite sex workers as personal service providers, not commodities.

They might not see as many new ladies, but they don’t significantly reduce the number of times they see the ladies they view as friends. They generally have some spending cushion. If they maintain the same level of spending during leaner times, their wealth accumulation declines but they are wise enough to realize they care one year closer to death anyway.

Lower income guys tend to see lower-priced ladies who are in fact more like commodities in their interactions with Johns.. They don’t have much savings or spending cushion, so they reduce spending on sex workers. When they increase spending later, they are likely to pick different ladies anyway. And lower-priced ladies feel they are in the same socio-economic class as the johns who reduce spending in a recession, so they are more understanding about it.
 

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My little bunch of wishful thinkers!
It is a matter of economics, when a business has little revenue it can resort to less than usual methods to increase traffic. If an SPs income is cut in half, she may offer incentives to attract clients. If the situation is as dire as having income cut in half, other SPs may be offering incentives to a dwindling client base.

McDonald's Canada has locked in the price of its McValue® Meals at $5 (+ tax) and small McCafé® coffee at $1 (+ tax) for the entire year of 2026
, marking the first time in over a decade the company has committed to such a price freeze. This initiative, announced on January 13, 2026, offers unbeatable value with no limited-time offers or minimum purchase requirements


"Canadians are facing challenges and are insecure financially. What we are doing is listening and giving them what they want," ( President of McDonalds Canada )

So the question is, why is McDonalds offering McValue meals and freezing the price of coffee for at least for a year when coffee prices have gone up dramatically. How does this effect the competition? The economy is at the beginning of economic turmoil, thanks to the orange turd.
 
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It is a matter of economics, when a business has little revenue it can resort to less than usual methods to increase traffic. If an SPs income is cut in half, she may offer incentives to attract clients. If the situation is as dire as having income cut in half, other SPs may be offering incentives to a dwindling client base.

McDonald's Canada has locked in the price of its McValue® Meals at $5 (+ tax) and small McCafé® coffee at $1 (+ tax) for the entire year of 2026
, marking the first time in over a decade the company has committed to such a price freeze. This initiative, announced on January 13, 2026, offers unbeatable value with no limited-time offers or minimum purchase requirements


"Canadians are facing challenges and are insecure financially. What we are doing is listening and giving them what they want," ( President of McDonalds Canada )

So the question is, why is McDonalds offering McValue meals and freezing the price of coffee for at least for a year when coffee prices have gone up dramatically. How does this effect the competition? The economy is at the beginning of economic turmoil, thanks to the orange turd.

Or diversify our sources of revenue. Slashing your price in the luxury market can send the wrong message. Because this service is considered luxury.

Nevertheless Canadians are struggling but none of you apply the same vehemence against all those multi billion dollars corporations that are charging you more everyday without looking back, than you drag sex workers for having to up their price to be able to put food on their table just like you.

It is also getting tedious to be mansplain economic notion constantly. Lets avoid that in the future shall we?
 
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It is also getting tedious to be mansplain economic notion constantly. Lets avoid that in the future shall we?
The economic situation is the topic of discussion. Discussion of the matter is not mansplain, the economy effects everyone, SPs and big corporations alike.
If slashing prices are not the way you choose to go, then there are many ways to enhance the product or service. Have you ever had a McPizza or MrRib? I have even had a McLobster.
 
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The economic situation is the topic of discussion. Discussion of the matter is not mansplain, the economy effects everyone, SPs and big corporations alike.
If slashing prices are not the way you choose to go, then there are many ways to enhance the product or service. Have you ever had a McPizza or MrRib? I have even had a McLobster.
The title of this thread is: Is sex work slow right now and once again, I don't think this question was for you. You are mansplaining sir.
 

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You can't compared a niche market like seeing a SP especially a high end escort to a $1 coffee. McDs is smart. They know most people don't just drive there for a small coffee. ...
A small coffee is all I ever buy at McDonald's - when travelling . I guess I'm not most people
 

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It is a matter of economics, when a business has little revenue it can resort to less than usual methods to increase traffic. If an SPs income is cut in half, she may offer incentives to attract clients. If the situation is as dire as having income cut in half, other SPs may be offering incentives to a dwindling client base.

McDonald's Canada has locked in the price of its McValue® Meals at $5 (+ tax) and small McCafé® coffee at $1 (+ tax) for the entire year of 2026
, marking the first time in over a decade the company has committed to such a price freeze. This initiative, announced on January 13, 2026, offers unbeatable value with no limited-time offers or minimum purchase requirements


"Canadians are facing challenges and are insecure financially. What we are doing is listening and giving them what they want," ( President of McDonalds Canada )

So the question is, why is McDonalds offering McValue meals and freezing the price of coffee for at least for a year when coffee prices have gone up dramatically. How does this effect the competition? The economy is at the beginning of economic turmoil, thanks to the orange turd.
Using incentives depending on the market is nothing new and this is something that we may see more of this year.

Some SPs will lower their rates when touring cities where the market leans towards lower rates such as Kingston which has a high student and military population.

Some SPs offer TERB discounts, weekend discounts, duo discounts, multi-hour discounts, regular's rates, etc...

I am not sure about the super high end luxury companions, but lower and mid priced SWs have been using incentives for years.
 
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