you are still busy because you provide and have always provided a very good service..the cream always rises to the top
Is sex work slow right now?
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I don't tour very often at all, I might visit Ottawa once per year and Mississauga twice per year, so my experience with the amount of clientele coming in is based on my work from home here in Kingston.
From home, I take a maximum 2 clients per day and about 8 per week depending on appointment length as most are one hour and longer.
After gathering regulars here for approximately 8 years now, I have no trouble filling appointment slots and making what I need to in order to live comfortably.
If I feel I need a little boost, I will put up a rare Leolist ad and gain a few more new clients.
This slow or not slow debate all depends on many factors such as an SWs work model (low volume vs. high volume), whether they are independent or not, the city they are based in or the cities they tour, where they advertise, if they focus on regulars or fly by night clients, the time length of appointments they prefer to offer, etc...
From home, I take a maximum 2 clients per day and about 8 per week depending on appointment length as most are one hour and longer.
After gathering regulars here for approximately 8 years now, I have no trouble filling appointment slots and making what I need to in order to live comfortably.
If I feel I need a little boost, I will put up a rare Leolist ad and gain a few more new clients.
This slow or not slow debate all depends on many factors such as an SWs work model (low volume vs. high volume), whether they are independent or not, the city they are based in or the cities they tour, where they advertise, if they focus on regulars or fly by night clients, the time length of appointments they prefer to offer, etc...
White people behind the counter is no guarantee. I've been served by plenty of locals who move sloooow.
Fastest service I ever got was McD's on Spadina and Richmond. Staffed entirely by Filipina. They had their shit down.
What I have observed the past few months (maybe even years) is that quality has been on the decline while prices have climbed steadily without much justification, which, at least for me, makes it less interesting to partake (not because I don't have the $$$, but simply because it's not worth it in many cases at this point). But then I lived through the days when you could see reasonable quality providers at HPL for 120/220 hh/hour!!! I see a lot of girls advertised at 220+ these days for hh that I wouldn't even see at 120 back in the day, not to mention stopping by for an hour. My guess is that at some point, if enough people feel the same way, it will affect client traffic.
I don’t understand with this has to do with the topic at hand. This is about SPs and their experiences with the economy right now. It seems like you judged wanted to use this as a chance to complain about rates and SP quality.
I mean I get it, it is a common complaint but one discussed repeatedly in relative threads on this board. I lm sure there are plenty of threads on this specific topic that you could have found to share your opinions on rates and SP quality.
I know, I know. You are going to say the relevance is why you are not seeing escorts which is why the economy is down but that is 1. Just an excuse to complain in my opinion and 2. Not the topic. It wasn’t why things are slow but IF they are slow.
The economy is down everywhere in the world. Rates and quality have been an issue for years according to you and many others, so I think if we want to actually get into the why, the overall economy would have more of a factors since the complaints you have mentioned have not forced rates down at all for all theses years, even if traffic has slightly declined because of it over these many years that rates have gone up. For every man that has slowed down, a new one sprouted. The difference now is the rates of inflation, the overall economy and the rest that is going on in the world right now.
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I suspect the slow economy and inflation has effected consumers as well as SPs. Could it be that SPs are raising prices to compensate for the deficient of less clients.
They may be testing to see what the market will bare. If recession hits we may see an influx of new talent in the SP forces.
Correct. The brokers...yup.
There’s an old Wall Street saying: even in a down market, someone is making money.
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There will always be winners and losers, it just depends where one finds themselves!
I am just guessing here, but if you get about $400 per client, it means $3200 per week. Assuming you take a 2-week vacation, it is $150K/year gross. Minus any costs, you should net about $130K before tax (assuming you host at home). Assuming you report about $30K income to the CRA just to avoid any problems, you pay almost no taxes. Yes, $130K/year is enough for a comfortable life, but, unless SPing is just a side gig, it is too little. If SP is the main profession, the useful professional life is about as long as for a professional athlete, so, for a truly comfortable life over the entire lifespan, SPs should save about 70% of their net income. People should start planning for their retirement when they are about 15 years old (sophomore high school age).
No offense meant, dude, but there is always way too much analysis by Johns of sex work like it is a lifelong move-up the corporate ladder at the bank.
For a tremendous number of higher-end sex workers, this is indeed a side-gig that just adds to an already solid income. A few hours a week that is quite lucrative.
Pretty girls with big boobs who put out, cuddle and make small talk always come out way ahead in life. They can do sex work, the girlfriend thing, sugar baby, secretary, Hooter waitress, bank teller, etc., etc., etc. They get hired and taken care of.
Society always wants to study the low-end of the scene with not such pretty girls who have fewer skills at anything. Yes, they get affected by recessions and slow-downs, but there are a tremendous percentage of people in North America who live on the margins of society, room together, and somehow make it even if their incomes are at or below the poverty level. They aren’t figuring the amount needed for a comfortable retirement at 65.
Most of the ladies advertising and reviewed on Terb don’t need us worrying about them or figuring their incomes. If they need something more, they can bat an eyelash or lift up a skirt. No shortage of guys who will respond in some way, though few will come out and say so, since they always want a favorable response when they ask for something. The ladies at the lower-end of the scene wouldn’t take the time or effort to even follow your analysis.
Every year there is a small dip for the holidays and right after, but it's predictable and short. I used to work as a server and it was very much the same. In my experience, things are getting back to normal on exactly the timeline I expect : )
There are too many variables for you to guess my yearly income, or my savings.
Escorting is one source of income of about four that I have including Onlyfans.
Let's just say that during COVID, I was not worried when I stopped seeing in person clients for awhile because I have always been good with saving money and have alternate income sources.
I don't need a financial advisor LOL.
Last year you didn't have a President threatening and slapping tariffs all over the place, taking over countries and then threatening more tariffs.
It's a much different world that we're in from a year ago, plus of course the yuge influx of Asian agencies, some even priced lower than Toronto based agencies.
Not to mention if he crushes CUSMA this year.
Why so offensive? You opened that gate when you specified your weekly number of clients and said it is enough for a comfortable life
. As I said, I am just guessing, and my post is not advice to you - I post for my own enjoyment . What I am saying is that "enough for a comfortable life" is not sufficient in a profession/skills that lasts for at most 20 years. I do hope that all the pretty ladies who have several sources of income that depend on their looks save enough for retirement at 40 without having to go from $150K/year life to $40K/year life. This is true not only for sex workers, but for athletes too. So, unless you have basic financial knowledge, you do need a financial advisor; you just do not know it yet.- Status
