ICE agents murder woman in car

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Trump has truly created a Gestapo to suppress political opposition. ICE has gone well past its mandate to enforce Immigration and Customs laws.

Does anyone else recognize the significance of this point in history.

Trump loves the uneducated for a reason. His diehard supporters are either stupid sheep who’ll eat up the bullshit he spews out OR they’re among the monsters who actually want fascist practices as long as the crackdowns are targeting the right groups of people (migrants, muslims, dissenters, lgbt). There are literally ICE officers with Nazi SS tattoos.

The average low-middle income white American will see no material benefit from this craziness, but trumptards will still be cheering because their perceived enemies are being punished.
 

Valcazar

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Did you know when protestors disrupt ICE operations they are breaking the law??

Statute18 U.S.C. § 111

Its a federal crime to forcibly assault, resist, oppose, impede, intimidate, or interfere with federal officers or employees (or those who formerly served) while they're performing official duties, with penalties increasing significantly if a deadly weapon is used or bodily injury inflicted, making it a serious offense against federal law enforcement and personnel.
Actual law for those who want to read it for themselves.


So when they oppose, impede, intimidate or interfere with ICE officers doing their job (which is what they're doing with these protests), they are all breaking the law. And its a felony no less.
So you can see why what he did was reprehensible and completely wrong.
(You might want to go look at that felony part again, though.)

I'm glad you looked into this and educated yourself.
 
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Valcazar

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well show me a video of ICE randomly shooting protesters that are honking, show me ICE videos they just pick up random individuals...you can't.
Of course I can't.
They aren't doing this shit randomly.
Are you not even paying attention?

I can show you people harass them in walmart, gas station and most of the time they just ignore them.... you think those actions will fly in Russia, NoKor and China where you can instigate law enforcement?
This is the US, not North Korea.
Are you ok?
I know you like to play dumb in these threads, but I'm starting to worry that you being emotionally triggered is making you spiral here.

Does this look like Nazi and authoritarian to you where a guy cussed them out and ask them to take his gun off and fight him? LMAO...
It looks extremely authoritarian, yes.
 

Valcazar

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A lot of the liberals here thinks ICE only arrest immigrants during Trump's term.
No one thinks that, rich.

They did the same during the Obama term...
You have an interesting definition of "the same".
Of course, you also pretend to think that unless people are randomly shooting everyone who honks at them, there are no problems, so...
 

Valcazar

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Weird argument you make here.
Not really.
You're the one who said you had never had a problem with law enforcement despite protesting Chinese embassies and consulates.
I'm pointing out the major difference in what you've been protesting and what others have been protesting.

LE shouldnt object to any peaceful, lawful protest.
But they do.
That's the point.

It is your right to do so in canada or the U.S. It doesnt really matter what entity you are protesting against as long as the participants are doing it lawfully and not obstructing road traffic or disobeying LE, the probability of you not being tear gassed or shot is pretty good.
Actually, what you are protesting plays a big part of it.
Protesting the cops or the government is very different than protesting China.

So is the argument you are making is that since the actual protest is against LE they should be allowed to obstruct LE?
My argument is that your contention that because you never had a problem protesting China, anyone who law enforcement has hassled while protesting must have brought it on themselves by protesting wrongly somehow is not a good argument.
 
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Valcazar

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No, just the argument that he isnt an authoritarian at all.
But your argument for showing he isn't is that he's failed to seize full power to the level of something like North Korea or China.
In other words, "since he hasn't succeeded completely, he isn't an authoritarian".
(You're not so ridiculous as to pretend he isn't doing authoritarian things or doesn't intend to be an authoritarian.)

If you want "authoritarian" to be some kind of more proper noun - you only get the title after you've successfully earned it by consolidating a certain amount of power, then I guess I can grant it to you.
It's like someone who only committed attempted murder not being a murderer because they failed, but again, I don't find that convincing.

I think that's a distinction without a difference.
 

Valcazar

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No, per the video of his own cell phone, she was moving away, turning right, AWAY from him.
Hence, murder.
Also, since he positioned himself where he did, switched his phone to his non-dominant hand, he premeditated it in the moment.
He had decided he was going to shoot the "fucking bitch" and he did, because he knew he could claim "self defence" by putting himself where he did.
Again, murder.
Probably not murder in the first degree under Minnesota law.
Second or third degree depending on how you want to argue it.
 

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No one thinks that, rich.



You have an interesting definition of "the same".
Of course, you also pretend to think that unless people are randomly shooting everyone who honks at them, there are no problems, so...
Oh wait they did more deportations during Obama...lmao
 
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Not really.
You're the one who said you had never had a problem with law enforcement despite protesting Chinese embassies and consulates.
I'm pointing out the major difference in what you've been protesting and what others have been protesting.



But they do.
That's the point.



Actually, what you are protesting plays a big part of it.
Protesting the cops or the government is very different than protesting China.



My argument is that your contention that because you never had a problem protesting China, anyone who law enforcement has hassled while protesting must have brought it on themselves by protesting wrongly somehow is not a good argument.
Was the "No Kings" protest mainly peaceful? Wasn't that a protest against the government and by extension law enforcement? So no I don't believe what you are protesting plays a big part in it.

If you protest in the West within what the law permits, generally you won't get shot, beaten, arrested, etc. Like I said it doesn't matter what you are protesting, China, climate change, Hamas, Israel, ICE, etc, and I've never had a problem participating in protest because generally those alongside me won't go beyond the bounds of what is legally allowed since we know how precious this right to protest is.
 
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