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Phil C. McNasty

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So no, she was not obstructing justice. Nor was she interfering with an investigation, or even blocking the road when the ICE officers engaged her
So if what you're saying is correct we should be expecting murder charges soon then, right??
 

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The woman who was shot was obstructing justice.
The ICE agent therefore has the right to confront her.

When she moved forward with her car in his direction, he felt his life life was being threatened, and proceeded to defend himself.

Minnesota is run by left-wingers. How much do you want to bet that even though that State leans left, the ICE officer wont be charged or convicted for murder??
 

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So if what you're saying is correct we should be expecting murder charges soon then, right??
In a functioning society, yes:

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In a collapsing empire where the fascist leader is trying to justify martial law: No.

People keep calling Trump Hitler, but he's not. He's Mussolini. Down to the march on the capital and the blackshirts.


 

Phil C. McNasty

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In a functioning society, yes:

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In a collapsing empire where the fascist leader is trying to justify martial law: No.

People keep calling Trump Hitler, but he's not. He's Mussolini. Down to the march on the capital and the blackshirts.


Trump has absolutely no jurisdiction when it comes to Minnesota law enforcement.

If police think he didn't act in self-defense then we should expect charges soon
 
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Just because someone agrees with you, doesn't make them right.
 

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Minnesota is run by left-wingers. How much do you want to bet that even though that State leans left, the ICE officer wont be charged or convicted for murder??
By Canadian and Western European standards, there is absolutely nothing "left wing" about Minnesota or any other state.

Lots of people from that shit-hole country don't even believe in universal healthcare.

Ideologically, the Democrats sit somewhere around Canadian or British Conservatives, maybe slightly to the left of them at most, but there is nothing "left wing" about Democrats..
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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By Canadian and Western European standards, there is absolutely nothing "left wing" about Minnesota or any other state.

Lots of people from that shit-hole country don't even believe in universal healthcare.

Ideologically, the Democrats sit somewhere around Canadian or British Conservatives, maybe slightly to the left of them at most, but there is nothing "left wing" about Democrats
That's debatable, but I think we can both agree that Governor Tim Walz is anti-Trump.

And if he's anti-Trump, then he would look for any opportunity to charge this ICE agent to make Trump look bad, and make ICE look bad.

But if there are no murder charges, or a conviction thereof, then it might be because they don't think they can get a conviction based on the fact the ICE agent was acting in self-defense
 

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How is this even being debated!

The logic, facts and appropriate actions are clear as seen in the video.
This action was not appropriate at all, and warrants immediate change in behaviours if this is the status quo.
She basically was a mother driving a mini van full of her children toys.

The fact that she is being radicalized, The ICE agents actions are being justified and there are even sides to this is the problem.
Are the justifiers/supporters afraid of their own cognitive dissonance?

Based on the response(s), there will be no unity as if people cannot agree on this.

This rip in the moral and humane fabric is what the Trump government (and Trump himself (made a career out of it)) did, does and will do.

So, basically what they are saying is i avoid a person close to my car they can shoot me in the head three times.
You are making some assumptions that this is just some poor mother who was minding her own business. I don't believe that to be the case. We shall see.
I've watched the video at least a dozen times. Mostly from the one angle. The car lunges towards the officer who quickly grabs his handgun and fires off 3 rounds. 1 goes through the windshield, the other 2 through the open passenger window. All this happened in less than 1.5 seconds. It should also be noted that the same ICE agent was recently dragged by a vehicle so perhaps he was 'shook'. I truly believe that he felt his life was in danger.
Its not a case of cold blooded murder. It could be a case of reckless homicide. Let's see what the investigation produces. If the 2nd or 3rd shots are the ones that proved fatal he will be in hot water.
 

K Douglas

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Like the mayor said...BULLSHIT!
The Mayor is an ignorant ass wipe. Its rhetoric like that which is putting ICE agents at risk from harm.
 

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That's debatable, but I think we can both agree that Governor Tim Walz is anti-Trump.

And if he's anti-Trump, then he would look for any opportunity to charge this ICE agent to make Trump look bad, and make ICE look bad.

But if there are no murder charges, or a conviction thereof, then it might be because they don't think they can get a conviction based on the fact the ICE agent was acting in self-defense
This is a fundamental misunderstanding of how the justice system works. Tim Walz can't, and shouldn't be able to, make charging decisions. The fact that he didn't try and arrest the ICE officer himself in the aftermath of the shooting only proves that he understands how the laws in his country work.

Calling the other side weak because they are following the rules is something.
 
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It should also be noted that the same ICE agent was recently dragged by a vehicle so perhaps he was 'shook'.
So emotionally unstable, mentally unfit for duty? This person, by your own words, was unhinged, and too weak to deal with the stress of his job.

I didn't know ICE did DEI hires. Nice of them to keep retards employed.
 

K Douglas

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I'm going to ask you the same question I asked @K Douglas yesterday and he's refusing to answer. It's a simple question; it doesn't even need an explanation: If the US were to invade Canada, whose side are you on?
The reason I didn't answer that is because its a ridiculous question. Canada is not undermining US security by flooding it with narcotics, weapons and gang members. Canada is a democratic nation.
 
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